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He doesn't want to be the poor cousin that has to go beg to go china and a third is gadhafi. he doesn't want to get rid of his nukes because he's afraid he'll wind up like gadhafi. he may look more deeply and discover that one of the problems with gadhafi is he was like -- he treated all of his people like dirt and gave them nothing back. now, kim has the possibility of doing that. >> except that's how kim jong-un treats, you know, those who live in north korea economically. let me ask you this, looking at outline it had nicely earlier in the show, there's nothing new here in this language and...

That the united states should sit down, that the united states president should not sit down with two-bit dictators. i think there's some validity to that school of thought, with the nuclear weapons.tato u know, countries like iran and cuba and other two-bit regimes don't have nuclear weapons yet. they can't threat the united states in that way. >> so jeffrey, hearing that, does that just encourage a place like iran or cuba to work to develop their own nuclear weapons, so that they can be taken more seriously on the world stage? they have more leverage? >> yeah, it's been a while since i lived...

Jon meacham, this is just too easy. >> yeah. >> to -- know, we hear that history rhymes here. it is -- it's just the same words used verse one and verse two where i mean you can go from whether you're talking about what happened at the courthouse or talking about what happened in versaleuring the paris peace accords of 1919 or kissinger going to paris to end the vietnam war, they talked about beachfront condos. that's the great -- that's the great equalizer here between nations. it is -- that -- it is donald trump still, donald trump the real estate developer, and he doesn't realize that this ...

♪ >> outside tripoli's center there's this. one-time axis of all power and untold evil, a huge complex of sinister offices, barracks and residences on top of secret tunnels and underground facilities. the gadhafi's enormous compound. ♪ ♪ >> on august 23, 2011, it fell to the rebels. gadhafi and his family having fled. ♪ >> this is what's left of gadhafi's palace. ♪ ♪ ♪

National security adviser john bolton gave an interview on "face the nation". >> i think we are looking at the libya model of 2003 and 2004. >> the united states pressured gadhafi to give up nuclear weapons. he did. not very long after that is pulled apart from a mob. kim jong-un sees it as essential to his survival. >> president trump tried to walk back the comments. >> the libyan model isn't a model that we have at all when we're thinking of north korea. this would be with kim jong-un something where he would be there. he would be in his country. he would be running his country. >> then only...