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The president praising the progress and looking forward to his meeting with the dictator and lindsey graham is credited the president's hard line for the breakthrough. >> i don't want a war but i will stop you from building an icbm with a nuclear weapon on top to hit the american homeland. i think he has got north korea's attention. he convinced china he's serious and got them to the table. nobody else was able to do it. >> sandra: let's bring in washington post columnist marc thiessen is here. he's got everybody's attention with the meeting and travel to china. >> yes, absolutely. i don't wan...

>> and, karen, one last thing. when george w. bush scored his big win in libya and got gadhafi to turn over his weapons, it was secret. it took two or three years to get the weapons out and destroyed. have you heard anything about a plan to actually verify denuclearization for kim jong-un to promise it? >> they didn't even have a plan for how to set up this meeting. it was something donald trump decided spur of the moment. it came as a great surprise to his own team. the most likely answer to this is no. >> we will find out in the weeks and months ahead. thank you alaina, alana, karen. "the ...

Do it, even if he did agree to doing it, when that gives up the only leverage he has in the world is the fact that he says he has a nuclear program? it gives him the power and prestige you're talking about. what could president trump or anyone in the american government possibly say to him or provide or offer him that would convince him to get rid of his one major holding, which is nuclear weapons? >> and this is going to be the major problem here in these negotiations. kim jong-un knows what happened to gadhafi and saddam hussein when they gave up their weapons of mass destruction. they both ...

It. >> richard, can we talk about that for a second? you and i both know if you're a tyrant and running north korea and the united states is demanding that you give up your wmds, the united states is demanding you give up your nuclear program, all you have to do is look at what happened to gadhafi in libya. he gave up his wmds. i remember you and me saying it in realtime. you kill a man that does what you tell him to do, give up his wmd program which he was keeping to protect himself, and all you're doing is telling every other tyrant never give them up. why would kim jong-un give up weapons w...

This threat, failed to remove it and we know that north korea has these nuclear weapons because they see thousand united states in libya, for example, guaranteed gadhafi we are not going to go after you then we lead an attack that tackled gadhafi, launching libya into chaos that we are still seeing results of today. >> so she mentioned democratic and republican administrations. do you think democrats deserve more of the blame and what can they do to help improve this situation? >> i think playing the blame game is silly. i really do. i heard that thesis about all of that other stuff. kim start...