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What the government has done and it's obvious except for now. except in this moment, it seems dangerous to do that. and that's how i feel. i spoke to someone from the white house over the weekend and they said, look, we're getting some back and forth. it was a policy process behind this and they are actually getting a reaction from the pakistani government that they think is positive and actually is a wake-up call that could produce results. remains to be seen. >> i tried to do something in congress in 2009. i wanted to condition our aid on wrapping up the father of the pakistani nuclear bomb ...

On somebody like the authority, but everything we know about this. we know the chinese contrary was widely touted, it's not their client state. what we know is this dictator in north korea may have learned from the examples of saddam hussein and gadhafi, and they gave up weapons of mass destruction and ended up captured and executed. he can reach parts of the united states with missiles. this is simply not a time for the kind of crude taunts and the school yard foolishness coming out of the white house. everybody should be very concerned. >> so on the flip side of the one person not concerned ...

Excellent report. after the president tweeted though, that cnn international is -- and i'm quoting him -- a major source of fake news, libyan media, they're now using that presidential tweet to question the truth of the cnn report. are you concerned, senator, and you're a blunt guy, that the president's twitter attacks on the news media are emboldening other countries to label real, serious reporting as fake or could even lead to american journalists working overseas being jailed or attacked. >> well, i think the president feels like that cnn and every other major news outlet in this country i...

And i'm on your show. >> our reporters around the world, they risk their lives every day -- >> yes, they're good at what they do. >> -- to report the news fairly and responsibly. and when the president of the united states starts calling this fake news, that endangers those reporters and it emboldens autocrats and dictators to simply shut the opportunities down for a free press. that's the concern i have. and i'm sure you share that concern. >> yeah, well, listen, i saw this coming a long time ago. you know. clinton and obama basically just withdrew after gadhafi failed. there was a moment whe...

Air strikes into libya, clearly in niger, mali. they are more normally on class 5 missions. frequently it's a training optic on why we're there. but we're also running tier one special operation teams in and out of these nations on occasion. very highly classified. and the whole point of it was libya leaking arms and money after the fall of gadhafi. and the potential for isis to take up residence in other parts of africa. so what did congress know? i don't know but the secretary of defense normally keeps the key committees and the senate and the hour, the chairman and ranking member informed o...