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garry, you ve followed vladimir putin closer than anyone else and you have predicted that this is exactly what he s capable of, given that we re now into weak two of this war, one that he expected would end in a matter of days. given that his back is against the wall and his military isn t performing as expected, what do you see him doing next? could this just go on for weeks and months and at what point do you think it s inevitable that the other western countries will enter this fight? i don t know. that s another question to me, to president biden and other leaders, how many civilians must be killed by the way, we re watching this killing live. it s about the moral obligations. we live in a time of compassion and peace and we re fighting violence, trying to reduce it. we talk about social justice, racial justice, but, you know, ....
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And we don t have to wait. in that sense, garry is right. but on the other hand, if the russians say they re going to talk, we need to take that opportunity to see if there s any leeway there. but on the fundamentals, there s going to be no compromise with russia. yeah, it s go ahead, garry, final word. sorry, i can respond very quickly because evelyn talked about arming ukraine. why these weapons are not there yet? i tweeted long time ago that if america would give ukraine 10% of what was left for taliban, then putin would be listening. so, it s still a big talk. it s more like a lip service, but ukraine needed these weapons yesterday. yeah, i mean, i why don t you think they re there yet, evelyn? well, that is a good question and i don t have full insight into what s there or what s being shipped there that s obviously not always public but the ukrainians need more air defense. they need more maritime support. it s not just land. ....
right. i mean, so, first of all, i agree with garry that putin did achieve one objective in having this phone call, which is having the phone call, showing his relevance, showing, you know, russia s a power, coequal power with the united states, hinting at the possibility of having spheres of influence in deciding ukraine s fate without ukraine there, so that is a victory for putin. but in addition to that, i think putin was looking for some intelligence. he was probably looking to test president biden s resolve, and it sounds like what he got back as an answer was that president biden is very resolved and working closely with our european allies to make sure that, number one, we protect we help ukraine protect itself and in that piece that we that i coauthored with a large group spearheaded by the atlantic council, we were beautiful arguing that right now, we should not wait, that the administration should continue its arming of ukraine right now, that the administration should ....