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General Kellogg now says we must end the Ukraine War quickly to finally focus on the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) threat.

And i was one of the assault commanders physically on the ground in panama. what we did under these exercises, we deliberately tried to do some provocations with at that time the panamanian military to find out what their reaction was going on the, how timely was it going to be the, what kind of force were they going to respond with, and and we actually kept pushing the envelope. this is what the chinese are doing, very similar. just find out how the u.s. is going to react, what their decision making process is. is it going to be fast, is it going to be slow. is it going to be hard? is it goin...

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Really stupid. david: would that trigger world war iii? >> no, david, it won't. you have to think your way through it, what would happen if they did a demonstration and again, i explained what that was, everybody would sit down, take a deep breath and my advice would be okay, see what the next step is, put enormous pressure from the u.n., from the rest of the world on him if he does something that stupid. if he does that against the city and i don't think he will. if he does it in the troop locations, i don't think he will. that's a different story and you go a different route. but i don't thi...

Now general keith kellogg was suggesting that could be in the form of nuclear tactical weapons. not sure that is in the cards, but what could be in the cards? >> i think the cyber possibilities, that is the biggest threat right now. once you start getting down the road, it can go a lot of places. i think because of the actions that have already been taken in crossing a line of the world order, that something significant has to happen with a unified front. being unified is tough. for some of those countries in europe or going to feel directly any pinch that goes on. >> sandra: the present stepp...