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transparently about the georgia results thrice audited there was never any fraud in georgia. what is your sense of the significance of that testimony from lyons >> so there is -- there's been a lot of testimony, and we played a fair amount at the hearings and you see it in the report about this sort of insane unhinged nature of the fight that was mostly over these executive orders and whether the president should sign an executive order to seize the machines and also the issue of whether sidney powell should be appointed special counsel to lead that investigation. the part that derek lyons is talking about is that at the end of the meeting, after this -- towards the end of the meeting, after it had moved from the oval office up to the white house residence late on the night of the 18th rudy giuliani came over he was summoned and joined the meeting late and started talking about a plan to voluntarily access the machines. rudy was against -- excuse me, mr. giuliani was againsted concept of seizing the machines, having the military seize the machines, but he assured the president that there was another

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