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that biden doesn't care. he's not worried about those numbers. he's just working and he's ignoring the republicans and that's got to be driving them crazy. >> i think that his laid back approach has been good. i think that there was some bad casting around his approach early on that he'll be able to work with these republicans. >> no. >> on the right. look, i don't know if you heard the open of the show tonight but i'm tired of this media baiting about mitch mcconnell. oh, he's threatening. if you get rid of the filibuster. why? why is the media all atwitter about this? what do you t...

back, and we understand why. it's worked for him so far. but if he can get in front of the congestion in congress by going right to people and talking about what people want that is the origin of the bully pulpit as theodore roosevelt dubbed it. thank you very much for taking us inside the numbers, whiz. >> i love taking you inside, even without my glasses i go right inside the numbers. >> i didn't know you wear glasses. i don't wear glasses. >> lie to the audience. >> i didn't lie to the audience. >> i wish i wore glasses, make me look so much smarter. >> that's the least of your pr...

It was not having gerrymandering districts, it was putting twice before the voters and it was ensuring that we had a vision where there is an opportunity for every person. that is really what people should demand of their leaders. >> i got to ask you about the gerrymandering thing, because that seems crucial to how democrats have actually won adequate representation. you look at neighboring wisconsin, where the republicans have gerrymanders those maps of just a breathtaking degree, and it really feels like an anti-democratic force. should all democrats effectively embrace independent commissio...

Person. that is really what people should demand of their leaders. >> i got to ask you about the gerrymandering thing, because that seems crucial to how democrats have actually won adequate representation in the state. you look at neighboring wisconsin, where the republicans have gerrymanders those maps of just a breathtaking degree, and it really feels like an anti-democratic force. should all democrats effectively embrace independent commissions to draw congressional district lines at this point? is that what needs to happen? i mean i know that in the past democrats have done their own share...

And that's really what people should demand of their leaders. >> i've got to ask you about the gerrymandering thing. because that seems crucial to democrats that actually want adequate representation in the state. you look at neighboring wisconsin where republicans have gerrymandered those maps to just a breathtaking degree and it really seems like an anti-democratic force. should all democrats effectively embrace independent commissions to draw congressional district lines at this point? is that what needs to happen? i mean, i know in the past, democrats have done their own share of gerrymand...