that biden doesn't care. he's not worried about those numbers. he's just working and he's ignoring the republicans and that's got to be driving them crazy. >> i think that his laid back approach has been good. i think that there was some bad casting around his approach early on that he'll be able to work with these republicans. >> no. >> on the right. look, i don't know if you heard the open of the show tonight but i'm tired of this media baiting about mitch mcconnell. oh, he's threatening. if you get rid of the filibuster. why? why is the media all atwitter about this? what do you think he's going to do? it's not a threat, it's a promise. >> right. >> he will do you dirty and play power politics and beat you. >> always. >> again. >> always. >> that's what he does. you're going to not remove the filibuster because you're worried about what it will mean to mitch mcconnell. he will do it to you. he did it to you in 2017 with the most sacred aspect of super majority which is supreme court justices, he lied to you and then played you and won. what else do you need to know? >> in the very beginning i said -- and i posed the question, not only to you, and to guests on the show, but also to people who were potentially going to work for the administration and then ended up working for the administration, is why are you -- why do you care so much about what mitch mcconnell is doing? why are you trying so hard to work with republicans who actually don't believe in reality at this point. >> it's not even how they believe they win. >> right. >> just to be clear -- >> work for the american people because the american people want you to work for them stop looking at the political class -- >> politics is about power, power accumulation and retention. i'm not personally slamming mitch mcconnell. it's not because i'm soft or i don't want the criticism. he's playing the game. >> and he plays it very well. >> that's right. now, that's all that matters to me. i don't know him. i don't need to know him. it's about his effectiveness. if the democrats don't find a way, and this talk from the left, the big shots on the media from the left, they have to figure out what to do next, you know what to do next. s 1 and hr 1 is next. if you don't get those done on your watch as democrats you're already a lame duck party. >> yeah. >> as soon as you lose this fight. >> you won't be able to win any elections. >> i don't know what to discuss against how to finesse the filibuster. >> that and gerrymander, if you don't take of voting, you may not be elected to a national office, democrats, ever again because republicans, they're better at this politics thing, they're better at this gerrymandering thing. >> staying focused. >> but suppressing the vote. >> that's their big vote. after obama it was big tent. decided to go in a different direction, small tent, a yurt. >> a yurt? not even an igloo. like a little tiny tent. >> weather dependent. you're done in the southern states if it's an igloo. >> it's good to see you, my friend. >> always a pleasure. >> i've got to get to this break news. we don't know but this could be a biased crime against asians, and that's a no go. we've got to stop that. thank you, chris. this is "cnn tonight," here's our breaking news, i just mentioned it to chris, okay, again being very transparent here, we don't know exactly what is going on but from the looks of it it could be a biased crime. police are investigating. they haven't given a definitive statement yet. here's what we know at the time. we're going to follow it. wherever this leads. so at least eight people killed in shootings, three atlanta area spas tonight, three different spas, four people dead in neighboring spas in atlanta. it is our breaking news. four more at another spa, that one is is in ackworth. the fbi is assisting the investigation. it's fast developing. i'll bring you the latest news when we get it throughout the show. stay tuned, we're going to continue with that breaking news. more breaking news to tell you about as well. the president, joe biden saying he supports an old passioned talking filibuster and he thinks republicans will have an epiphany between now and 2022. here's the president. >> you're on a mission, so you're not likely to get republican votes for the tax increase, not likely to get republican votes for hr-1, expanding voting rights or the john lewis voting rights act. aren't you going to have to choose. you've been reluctant to do away with the filibuster, won't you have to choose between that and advancing your agenda. >> you have to do with the filibuster what i used to do in the senate in the old days, you had to stand up and command the floor and you had to keep talking alone. you couldn't call for -- no one could say, you know, quorum call. once you stop talking you lost that and someone could move in and say i move the question of. so you've got to work for the filibuster. >> you're for that reform, bringing back the talking filibuster? >> i am. that's what it was supposed to be. look, i think, don't hold me to the numbers, george, but i think between 1960 and 2000 -- i'm making this number up, i don't know, there were like, you know, 50 filibusters, now there are like 200 since then. >> put a hold on it, that's it. >> yeah, so the idea -- it almost is getting to the point where there's, you know, democracy is having a hard time functioning. a hard time functioning. and so, look, i'm not saying this is going to be easy, george, but i do believe there's enough republicans over time who are going to have -- look -- >> they haven't had that epiphany. >> i've only been here six weeks, pal, give me break. been here six weeks. i think the epiphany will come between now and 2022. >> we will see about that. but this is happening as the insurrection inspiring disgraced twice impeached one term former president is admitting tonight that no republican will ever win unless they oppose hr-1. >> can a republican win again? if hr-1 becomes law? >> if they allow that to happen, if it's allowed to happen, i think your republicans will have a very hard time getting elected. what will happen is the democrats will be able to do what they did in the last -- in the 2020 election, and even worse, potentially even worse. >> so let me tell you now. ladies and gentlemen, we are on a collision course over this very issue. it is going to be a battle that we haven't seen since the civil rights era. republicans are trying to stay in power by taking away your vote. they want to take your vote away. you going to let them? just going to stand there and let them take your vote away? democrats who need to protect voting rights, they need that to survive. despite president biden's moderate tone there, it's going to be an all-out war. okay? remember what the former vice president al gore told me just last night -- >> it is a naked effort to try to suppress black, brown and indigenous votes, suppress any kind of votes from people who they think will not go for the far right, you know, promote the interest of the wealthy program. they have -- you know, let me give them their credit. i think they actually believe that this country would be better if the wealthy and powerful had more control over all of the decisions. >> like i said, a battle we haven't seen since the civil rights era. that as this country is in the race against time right now trying to get more americans vaccinated as a dangerous variant spreads. the former president who was vaccinated in secret before he left the white house, don't want anybody to see me getting the vaccine because it's going to make me look weak. and then that just negates everything that i just lied to you about over the last year so he did it in secret. now recommending vaccinations. >> i would recommend it and i would recommend it to a lot of people that don't want to get it and a lot of those people voted for me. >> now, that's exactly what a lot of vaccine skeptics need to hear, okay? he could have done a lot of good by saying that sooner. let's remember, because -- how could you forget, right? the former president promoted one useless so-called treatment after another. we know, hiydroxy hydroxychloroe moment of his lowest point in his refusal to take covid seriously. >> supposing we hit the body with a tremendous -- whether it's ultraviolet or just very powerful light and i think you said that hasn't been checked but you're going to test it and then i said supposed you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way, and i think you said you're going to test that too. sounds interesting. and then i see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute. >> wow! that actually happened, period. let's not forget that the then president of the united states, in the middle of a deadly pandemic, suggested a very powerful light, or a disinfectant. inside the body. could be a treatment. >> have you ever heard of that, the heat and the light relative to certain viruses, yes, but relative to this virus? >> not as a treatment. i mean certainly fever is a good thing when you have a fever it helps your body respond. but not as -- i have not seen heat or light -- >> i think that's a great thing to look at. >> and he had the nerve to call me the dumbest man on television. oh, you cannot write this stuff. fever. maybe it was a fever dream. donald trump. let's not forget that. dr. deborah birx apparently wishes she could forget it, right. here's what she tells abc just this week. >> that moment, obviously, there's a lot of tape on that, you can see how extraordinarily uncomfortable i was. unfortunately he was not speaking to me. he was speaking to the dhs scientist who had presented the data. and then when he did turn to me i said not a treatment. frankly i didn't know how to handle that episode. i still think about it every day. when i was spoken to i said not a treatment. but i don't know -- i guess some people thought i should run up on stage and interrupt this dialogue that was going on between the dhs scientist and the president. >> okay, look. dr. birx is a distinguished fighter against hiv a.i.d.s., fighting that battle by sticking to the facts, by telling the truth. but honestly now she seems to be rewriting history bust just a few days after the then president's absurd claims she told our jake tapper the news media was keeping the story alive. >> it bothers me that this is still in the news cycle. sometimes i worry that we don't get the information to the american people that they need when we continue to bring up something that was from thursday night. >> well, we have that. and we also have the former first lady of the united states michelle obama speaking out on the "today" show about meghan markle and the racism she experienced in the royal family. >> that was heartbreaking to hear that she felt like she was -- and her own family. her own family thought differently of her. >> race isn't a new construct in this world for people of color. so it wasn't a complete surprise to hear her feelings and to have them articulated. i think the thing that i hope for, and the thing i think about is that this first and foremost is a family. and i pray for forgiveness and healing for them so that they can use this as a teachable moment for us all. >> well, a teachable moment and i've said it before, racism is racism. it doesn't matter if you're royalty or a celebrity. it doesn't matter how much money you have. we've all got to do the work. we have to sit down and we have to talk to each other. one to one. talk with people who don't look like you. that's what i write about in my new book, it is out today, it's called "this is the fire," what i say to my friends about racism, out right now and i really think that it can help us have those conversations and move us into the right place, conversations that we need to have and then beyond that we need to do the work. let's get to the news now. i want to bring there cnn's kaitlan collins with a lot of news from the president tonight. kaitlan, good evening to you, thank you so much. president biden made a lot of news in this interview with abc, with george stephanopoulos, what are the headlines for you? >> reporter: yeah, he did. he talked about immigration and what's going on at the border and that surge that you're seeing there, he said he did not believe it was because of his own immigration policies, and instead was urging people to wait before trying to come to the border and basically saying they're still processing everything and trying to get it figured out, how they want it to work given of course that you are seeing a record number of children in the border patrol facilities, not where they're supposed to be, these jail-like detention facilities but he also was talking about other priorities-of his, including his legislative agenda, we want to get his immigration moves through congress, whether or not that actually happens still remains to be seen and he did weigh in on the filibuster, don, something we have not seen president biden yet, saying he wants to change something about the filibuster, but now he says he's up for filibuster reform. instead of where before a senator could block a bill by saying they would like to filibuster it, now they can talk for several hours. that's where you saw president biden saying he supported earlier tonight during that interview, that's really major because that, of course, could change the trajectory of his presidency and how things move on the hill. now, we still have to wait, of course, to get some reaction from senators on this, but that's incredibly significant how he basically framed this. and then of course one other thing he said during that interview that he did while he was here, while he was in pennsylvania before he came here to wilmington where we are now is he was asked about governor cuomo and whether or not he believes he should resign if the allegations against him are proven to be true in the investigation that right now is ongoing, those allegations of sexual harassment, and a toxic workplace, and don, he said, yes, he does believe that governor cuomo should resign if those allegations are proven true and he also says he thinks he'll be prosecuted if so. >> kaitlan, thank you. we'll play the sound bite a little bit later. i just realized you were in wilmington when you said it. i thought you were at the white house and i'm looking right at the screen. thank you, kaitlan. we'll get to the sound bites a little bit later on in the broadcast. we appreciate your reporting from wilmington, delaware tonight. here's breaking news tonight, a suspect apprehended in three shootings at spas in georgia, eight people are dead. several of the victims are asian. cnn's ryan young is on the scene for us with a major update from authorities. we'll do that right after the 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what i know so far. eight people killed tonight at shootings at three spas. one located northwest of the city of cherokee county. northwest of the city in cherokee county. a suspect in the cherokee county shooting has been taken into custody. now to ryan young who's in atlanta for us and cnn law enforcement analyst charles ramsey with me as well. ryan, i understand that there's some developing news, a suspect has been apprehended, investigators now think these three shootings, according to your reporting, right, that they're connected. >> reporter: yeah, absolutely, don, look i'm still getting text messages from investigators. robert long is the man they've taken into custody. now, look, this all started around 5:00. but the new development is that that suspect was taken into custody somewhere in crisp county after a pit maneuver was performed by the georgia state patrol, when an officer uses the front of his car to hit the back of the suspect's vehicle and sends it into a tail spin. we do know the suspect has been taken into custody. if you look behind me this is still a very active crime scene here and we're told it's still active in cherokee county as well. the shooting of course started around 5:00. you have four victims at that first site. now we have four victims here as well. police are working with the theory that these two shooting scenes or three shooting scenes are all connected. they believe the suspect who was captured on video, they believe, video surveillance at that first scene is how they were able to put out that description of the black hyundai they're looking for and that suspect was eventually released. he's 21 years old, from the woodstock area outside of atlanta. it's very near buckhead in atlanta. this road has been shut down for several hours as investigators have done their investigation. cherokee county is about 47 minutes away from here, and chris county, where he was eventually arrested is almost two hours away from this location. so you know that law enforcement has been working, coordinating things throughout the just dictions to figure out the motive of the shooting. we haven't been told about a first court appearance or whether or not investigators have been able to ask the critical question but the toll has been so hard for families. we're also told the reason they haven't released additional information about the victims is because they haven't had a chance to notify the family members involved. it's going to be a heartbreaking scene, over and over again as families start to learn loved ones have been lost to these senseless shootings. >> as it said on your note that i got here, that information has not been released on cherokee county because officials are still working to notify the next of kin. boy oh boy. stand by, ryan. charles ramsey, i'm going to bring you in now. multiple crime scenes and jurisdictions. the fbi is assisting with the investigation and they do now have that suspect in custody, which we had up on the screen there just a short while ago. there he is right there. so they should be able to sort out a motive and whether -- and how these incidents are connected. correct? >> well, they will find a motive, no doubt about that, they will be executing search warrants. they have to get a search warrant for his vehicle, wherever he's living. they'll go through his computer, social media. and so forth. and i'm sure they'll probably determine a motive. hopefully a firearm was recovered in that vehicle because a ballistics check would definitely put him as the shooter in all three cases. so there's still a lot of work that has to be done in this case. >> let's talk here, charles. you have at least four of the people killed there, asian women. listen. we don't want to get ahead of the investigation here, but how will police determine if any of these crimes were motivated by anti-asian bias at a time when there's a lot of fear and tension about that. and it has been real. we've be