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About 18, roughly about five crews that go out total. But they remember their main focus is public, not private. So, in short thats the answer. [inaudible]. All public property. So, light poles, signal boxes. We do mailboxes, stickers, trees. Garbage can. Trash cans, yeah. [speaker not understood]. Public. Yeah, city property. The benches in the parks. We dont do parks, but parks are done, rec and park does the benches he. We have some pretty basic colors. So, most of our furniture is probably one of four colors. Its all going to be green. Okay. Lets see, what am i going to do . Were going to ...

Take the mic, walk it over. Tagging is tagging. If youre set for work release or work service, community service, [speaker not understood]. Now, our when were doing a lot of volunteers, we had to go with it because we had a nonprofit to clean up. When they did our clean up, they were actually reformed gangsters themselves. They had opened a nonprofit and they were doing paint overs. They were pretty astute at assessing the juveniles and assessing the areas they were in. What weve done since then, we lost our nonprofit, now everybody who does graffiti, we generally send out, not the paint, we s...

When they tried to get them involved in the mural program. I think the one suggestion i might have for you is you start documenting the number of times that youre actually painting out there box and you start generating a bill along with a letter and send it to them. I think thats probably your best strategy so you can show the amount of cost that youre actually spending abating something thats theirs. And from that point then you have to have your policy makers or engage them. I mean, because thats pretty much [inaudible]. Its not unique. Trust me, its not unique. [speaker not understood]. Al...

Experience here in the states is it has more to do with the qualifications if its designated listed historic property, then it tends to shift over to the qualifications have to be somebody that has a certain degree and conservation or that kind of thing. So, its probably similar. Its some qualification type program. Alrighty, thank you. I have a question over here. Somebody get back here, if i could get you to stand up. Your name is frank . Yes. Ive got two questions. One for marty and one for larry. Marty, how many officers do you have dedicated to your Graffiti Program . And also larry, how ...

They threatened to sue our city when they tried to get them involved in the mural program. I think the one suggestion i might have for you is you start documenting the number of times that youre actually painting out there box and you start generating a bill along with a letter and send it to them. I think thats probably your best strategy so you can show the amount of cost that youre actually spending abating something thats theirs. And from that point then you have to have your policy makers or engage them. I mean, because thats pretty much [inaudible]. Its not unique. Trust me, its not uniq...