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and i think that across the board, the vast majority of the american people don't agree with a lot of the decisions the courts are making. >> president biden in an exclusive interview with my colleague, nicolle wallace, responding to today's very predictable supreme court decision on affirmative action. and that is where we begin tonight, with the united states supreme court once again turning the arc of justice away from equality and back to the early 20th century. striking down the use of affirmative action in college admissions. the roberts court, which wouldn't even look like t...

affirmative action and college admissions calling the policy on constitutional decision came after a case was brought in front of harvard in the case of north carolina. our reporter has the details. >> a landmark decision from a bitterly divided supreme court, rejecting the use of race as we know it in college admissions, chief johnson -- to conclude programs at harvard and the university of north carolina violated the law, riding the schools unavoidably a cloyed race in a negative manner involved racial stereotyping, and lack meaningful and points. >> the polarizing stigmatizing and...

racial discrimination. the president said he's directing his department of education to light the way, so on the subject of what happens next, let us ask the head of that department. united states education secretary miguel cardona, who joins us now. mr. secretary, thank you very much for being here. i know how you feel about this decision, that you said it takes our country backward, the president, though, in trying to look forward as we head into a new era says he wants you, as the department of education to light the way, find new areas. how is that going to look? how is it going ...

interview. there's so much going on. we want to get the court ruling, which we will, but first, i wanted to get your thoughts, really, on the interview that you did and i want to play for our viewers the part where you did discuss what is a huge issue for the nation right now, one president who does oversee a doj, while a former president awaits trial. i want to play from your interview. >> i made a commitment that i would not in any way interfere with the justice department, who they prosecuted, if they prosecuted, how they proceeded. i've not spoken once, not one single time, with ...

hour gets underway on this thursday night. good evening, once again i'm stephanie ruhle, let's take a big deep breath because we have a lot to cover tonight, today the nation's highest court struck down race based affirmative action and college admissions calling the policy on constitutional decision came after a case was brought in front of harvard in the case of north carolina. our reporter has the details. >> a landmark decision from a bitterly divided supreme court, rejecting the use of race as we know it in college admissions, chief johnson -- to conclude programs at harvard and...