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Critical. republican congressman adam kinzinger of illinois sits on the foreign affairs committee. congressman, thanks for being with us. >> you bet. >> why do you think the president has gone to the mat on this? why is he giving turkey such a pass? was it just an impromptu thing in a phone call with erdogan? >> i think it's all of it. i think the president makes very impulsive decisions on foreign policy. i think he made an impulsive decision without thinking through the results of that. i think erdogan somehow convinced him with stars in his eyes that he was going to be humane. and, you know...

The obama administration provided documents. they provided testimony. secretary clinton sat for 11 hours. i sat for four hours before gowdy and his crew behind closed doors. you know why? because we had nothing to hide. >> the situation in turkey, the president said today the kurds are fighting for their land, and as somebody wrote in a very, very powerful article today, they didn't help us in the second world war. they didn't help us with normandy as an example. in addition to that, we have spent tremendous amounts of money on helping the kurds. i'm not sure what the article he's talking abou...

For impeachment, for an inquiry, and she's been tough about it. one of the big questions that democrats are going to want to resolve is not only who's got a better chance of winning, but who's going to be more effective against trump in a debate, in a wrestling match on the debate? so far she's done pretty well in that category. >> joe, you saw biden also nudge the president on not releasing his tax returns. ambassador rice brought this up earlier. it is sort of an easy issue to turn on its head. does president trump really want to be talking about family finances and children's salaries? >> i...

Have the turk its making a move on the kurds? and how could this not be a blood bath? and we're go itting to talk to congressman slotcon about this. you know her background from the pentagon perspeckive. she wants us to know what the big risks are that are immediately ahead and then we're going to test the president's new arguments about why this impeachment is unfair with one of his faithful conservative friends. >> see you in about nine minutes. up next asks vice pence if he's changed his mind about what he said that foreign governments shouldn't interfere in elections. (wheels screeching)...

2020, have to face their voters, are sitting and waiting to see what else will come out. that's what this big struggle is. will the president be able to keep all of the details, you know, at the white house and keep congress from getting them because as this gets worse, republicans will make a calculation at some point, you know, whether it's in their interest to continue supporting the president. that's what the president is so fearful of. >> yeah. joe, david, stick around. laura, thanks. i know you need to work on your live 11:00 show, white house in crisis, that we encourage everyone to wat...