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Michael, good evening to you. >> hi, don. >> how i've waited for this moment. >> oh, i've been looking forward to it. >> i really haven't been watching all your interviews and said when do i get my chance with michael? here it is. thank you for appearing on this program. >> thanks for having me. >> your book lays out the incredible dysfunction inside the trump white house after the election that no one wanted to tell him that he had lost the election and you write in part, and i quote, "pence, stepien and ronna told themselves they were being respectful of the president and giving him the kind...

We usually call the middle east. they can check white or the category "some other race," which means their community is losing access to resources and power. ronna and alyssa are two asia americans that want to redefine -- they prefer swana or southwest asian north african. >> i love philadelphia. >> okay. >> because it is a majority minority city. >> yeah. >> and it's exactly where i want to be because of that. i feel like there are more voices represented here in philly. and i do feel more understood here. when people say the arab world, they really mean -- they don't just mean arabs. it's a...

There is corruption there's much does everything not tony. not telling it that me they've also bet there's also been made as for people who spoke up you know the man of his in prison who they are there. because he is just as guilty i feel you. know these companies are thieves by hiding covering up. and the latest voice the last voice we heard there was the one of the mother. ronna. so we really hear that people want change they want a fundamental change on the silent yeah absolutely i mean here and people are saying even the cold war is rotten then of course you know if the prime minister does...

Was preparing to interview ukrainian president volodymyr zelensky for "gps." it's true and i wanted you to hear it from me. we had been trying to get an interview with him since shortly after he was elected. he's a fascinating character. his country struggles with russia important geopolitical story. those efforts to talk to zelensky picked up speed in september. i met him in kiev and asked for an interview and he agreed in principal. we began coordinating with his team. then on september 19th "the washington post" reported that the whistle-blower's complaint revolved around ukraine. shortly t...

Facebook and google get80%, 90% of their revenue from advertising. they're giant media and advertising firms. if you take away targeted advertising, they don't have a business model anymore. >> in your book, you say the crisis of the old order, the old free reign for tech is over. you wrote a book about some of these issues, terrific book, "the square in the tower." do you think we're in a new age of regulating big tech? >> well, the question is how. i agree with ronna that section 230 of the communications decency is the achy achille's heel of the tech companies. that's why they would rather ...