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Often sold to criminals without a back ground check and they can't do anything about it. so we need to fix that part of this as well. you're right, the funding is important. >> i know one of the things that you have said -- we've had this conversation before, you want to try to get, i guess, the east coast or urban america to understand the gun culture in rural america. how do you translate that to the president? >> well, the president and i have talked about this. when you look at places in middle america, people who make less money than they used to, i just saw this blog entry by fareed zaka...

Do anything about it. and these are guns that are often sold to criminals without a back ground check and they can't do anything about it. so we need to fix that part of this as well. you're right, the funding is important. >> i know one of the things that you have said -- we've had this conversation before, you want to try to get, i guess, the east coast or urban america to understand the gun cultu in rural america. how do you translate that to the president? >> well, the president and i have talked about this. when you look at places in middle america, people who make less money than they us...

White house? >> this is a prelude to a major showdown at the ballot box. and i think that's also where gun issues will be resolved this november. i think the courts may speak before november. i don't think they'll resolve the issues. but clearly president obama has the support of hillary clinton and bernie sanders. especially if hillary is elected you'll see them follow through and push -- continue pushing the obama agenda. on the other end you'll have trump already out there and others who are saying if we're elected we'll cancel it. ultimately i think this is a good thing. it will be left to...

These years is the fact they know there are individuals out there selling hundreds if not thousands of guns a year and they don't have the authority to do anything about it. and these are guns that are often sold to criminals without a background check and they can't do anything about it. so we need to fix that part of this as well but you're right, the funding is important. >> what is something -- i know one of the things you have said, we've had this conversation before, you want to try to get i guess the east coast or urban america to understand the gun culture in rural america. how do you ...

Against muslimmuslims? >> and ben carson saying it took four days from the attack to respond and even more strange that somehow the attack on our soil is proof that his policies are working. >> the issue for marco rubio, you only have to look at donald trump right now and some of his rhetoric on muslims to understand the reason for obama's response to that type of rhetoric. obama was very challenging of republican this his address both on the rhetoric and the gun issues. and so some response from him came in that regard. and then ben carson, i think his response interesting, too, it did take f...