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rights and basic decisions than any court in recent history, and that's what i meant by not normal. >> that was president joe biden on msnbc yesterday reacting to rulings from the supreme court overturning affirmative action in college admissions. we'll break down these landmark decisions. meanwhile we're just a few hours away from two more major rulings from the high court, one of which addresses the legality of an executive action from the president. plus, we'll take a look how americans feel about the issue of affirmative action and the growing calls to expand the highest court in...

>> absolutely, joy. i think that is sort of rule number one for prosecuting organized crime. you are always looking to flip people who can get you closer to the person at the top. it is what the federal government perfected over years of prosecuting drug organizations and mafia cartels. it's getting folks at the bottom to come in and testify at the top. fani willis is no stranger to that. i would expect absolutely that there will be deals offered to folks at the bottom, probably sweetheart deals to folks at the bottom if they're willing taprovide truthful, helpful testimony to the state. i wou...

Oseola counties. thank you both for being here and returning to the show. and i just want to let you both kind of talk about this, and let's -- i'm going to go in the order you were targeted, so andrew, i'm going to start with you. you were targeted for refusing to pre-emptively vow to prosecute women or i guess doctors in abortion cases. so i guess that tells you what this guy desantis would love to do as president. what are your thoughts on his vow to do what the country what he's done to florida? >> it's really troubling. there's a reason why lady justice wears a blindfold rather than parti...