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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 11:48:00

Grievance and fear? does that make sense? yeah, i fear so. i mean, i think nikki haley, part of her wants to be the mitt romney kind of candidate, the pre-trump era candidate. but she knows that s not where the base is. the maga spirit is just as strong. if they don t get trump, they want somebody like trump. on paper, that s ron desantis. i m skeptical as to whether, in practice, when we see the whites of his eyeballs in iowa or new hampshire or wherever it would be, if he did decide to run, i m a little skeptical he s got the retail, that visceral, almost demonic retail sort of ability that trump has. it s certainly what the big donors thing, the charles kochs, the griffins, elon musks, they re fans of desantis. ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 12:17:00

Trump, who will be a bad knuckle fight, he s never been in a big fight, especially on the large stage. on the other side of that, where i have to deal with my lately new habit of agreeing with john over there, which i hate. goodness. he can t beat trump, he can t beat biden. if he cannot beat trump and overcome whatever that is that s going to be bloody, he will not be ready for the democrats in november. so if i were the republicans, i d say, get in and prove your metal. otherwise, in november, you will not be the one that can bring us across the goal line. david, in your recent op-ed entitled the law is closing in on trump, you write, in part, quote, former presidents should be subject to prosecution. this position doesn t endanger our system of government, it protects and applies a fundamental american legal principle. we are all equal in the eyes of the law. a refusal to prosecute trump ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 11:34:00

This. again, the lies started rolling off his tongue. i guess they ve continued over the past couple years. i mean, look, i would say, just to stand up for the good doctor here on one point, i mean, you know, if you think about trump s diet over the course of his life, you think about trump s the way he s taken care of his body, if you can use those words, taking care and body in the same sentence. think about the stress of the presidency, sleeping patterns, everything we know. the fact that the guy made it out of four years of the presidency alive is an amazing thing. i mean, with that if i had that diet, that lack of exercise and those sleeping habits, i d be dead now, you know? there is something to the notion that he does have some kind of extraordinary genes. it is the case that the trump men, historically, in his family, have lived to ripe, old ages in general. i don t want to give too much credit to dr. jackson. obviously, you know, the dude is ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 11:44:00

Trump dilemma. you write that the more crowded the 2024 race gets, the higher the chance that former president trump will secure the party s nomination. quote, in a straight matchup, ron desantis would beat trump according to most of the polls, but in a crowded field, trump could repeat what he did in 2016 when he won primary after primary with less than half the vote. from trump s point of view, the more candidates in the race, the merrier. the weaker trump seeks, the likelier others will enter the race. call this trump s heads, i win, tails, you lose, strategy. such is the familiar dread coursing through the republican establishment. few think that trump could beat joe biden, who shows every sign of running again. they believe every republican could beat biden. they are probably right. trump has never won the u.s. ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 12:12:00

2016. her popularity was at its peak, and she passed it up. obama in 2008, some people said it was too early, don t do it. obama said, you know, i m never going to have a better moment than this. it can only get worse for me. this is my time. i think, you know, for desantis, the argument would be, when will i have a clearer there is never a clear shot. someone is always going to be in the way. right now, there are a lot of republicans urging him, who think he is the guy who can rid the party of donald trump. if he were to do that, you know, imagine the degree of unanimity in the party once he got past trump. if he beat him in a primary, the degree of power he d have headed into a general election, a lot of people say the contrast between him and biden in terms of age would be beneficial to desantis. i think, you know, the argument for running now is that you can t game these things out too much. when you re hot, you re hot and you have to go. that s the thing that will probably drive ....

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