being on. let s reset at the top of the hour now. i m anderson cooper. thank you for joining us. we re following two major breaking stories that the hour. the downing of malaysian airlines flight 17 that killed 298 people in ukraine. and i m wolf blitzer reporting from jerusalem. the other major story, the breaking story we were following, the crisis in gaza, where israel launched a major ground offensive and it continues. a lot to get you up to date on in this hour. president obama today laying out the priorities and the aftermath of the airline crash in the ukraine. the priorities, learning the truth first, he say then acting. there has to be a credible international investigation into what happened. the u.n. security council has endorsed this investigation and we will hold all its members, including russia, to their word. in order to facilitate that investigation. russia, pro-russian separatists and ukraine must adhere to an immediate cease-fire. evidence must not be tampered with. investigators need access to the crash site. and the solemn task of returning those lost on board the plane to their loved ones needs to go forward immediately. here s what we know. when malaysian airlines flight 17 went down yesterday, most of the people on board, 189, were from the netherlands. president obama today identified by name one american who was also killed. the airline announcing today that they will make an initial cash payment of $5,000 to the family of each passenger. it sounds like very little amount of money. meant to cover travel expenses, immediate expenses, to the crash side. an audio recording ukrainian officials say they intercepted. and one of the voice on the tape describing debris falling from the sky and saying, quote, he s 100% sure the plane is a civilian aircraft. the question of course, did anyone know it was a civilian aircraft before they shot it down. whichever side of the you d cra ukraine conflict is found spons ashlgs these deaths were not involved in that conflict. an asian airliner filled with people from all over the world. and everyone agrees there will be some sort of backlash, certainly some impact. jim sciutto is our chief national security. the question now is where will that backlash come, who will feel it, what form will it take. most likely russia. the president clearly treading very carefully here in his comments about the white house. saying we have to be certain first of exactly what happened. so they re taking their time. but, more and more, the evidence coming from the u.s. side and the ukrainian side points to some russian involvement. the president said so in so many words. he said that this, in his words, is not an accident. a plane cannot be shot down without sophisticated equipment. and he says that sophisticated equipment, including anti-aircraft missiles, are coming from russia. we re just learning now that the working theory of u.s. intelligence now is that this missile system, which both u.s. and ukrainian officials believe was responsible for taking down this passenger yet, this buk system we ve talked a lot about, anderson, that it was supplied to the rebels by russia. that would be a shocking revelation if confirmed. because it means russia would not just be indirectly responsible for this, but directly responsible. and that means greater consequences. the trouble is, how severe are those consequences. just a day before this crash, president jim, i just got to interrupt you. there s a pentagon briefing. we ll go to that live. and that support has included arms, material and training. as we investigate who did this and why, this terrible tragedy underscores the need for russia to take immediate and concrete steps to deitescalate the crisi in ukraine. and i have one update on cape bray. the crew aboard cape bray continue their work to neutralize materials from the stockpile. as of this morning, the crew has neutralized just over 15% of the df, which is a sarin precursor. this amount has been verified by the international organization for the prohibition of chemical weapons. he s no longer talking about the aircraft itself. actually, let s listen as he is taking questions. let s just see yeah, let s listen in. of russian heavy weapons across the border into ukraine and the president spoke about training, all of that. can you go through this and tell us the latest u.s. assessment, u.s. military assessment, of what the russians have been doing in transferring heavy weapons, surface to air missiles, artillery, other heavy weapons across the border, to separatists on the ukraine side and the training and assistance that you believe russian elements, the russian military, is giving to these separatists. no hint that russian support for the separatists have ceased. in fact, we continue to believe that russia continues to provide them with heavy weapon, military equipment, financing as well. they continue to allow these russian fighters to enter the ukraine freely. there have been, as you know, we ve acknowledged that some tanks, armored personnel vehicles, have made their way across the border. it is a it has been a steady concerted campaign by russia s military to continue to support and resource, advise, these separatists. have you seen there is some video out there, i don t know that you ve seen the particular video, have you seen evidence that an sa-11 or buk missile system would cross the border at some point from russia into ukraine, and what can you tell us about that system and the sophistication and training that would be needed by russian separatists to actually be able to operate it effectively? i don t have specific information about a buk system making that transit. we re not ruling anything in or out at this point. it is it is a sophisticated that said, it is a sophisticated system. the missile itself, the saa 11, which is the one we believe was used to down flight 17, is a sophisticated piece of technology. and it it strained credulity to think it could be used by separatists without at least some measure of russian support and technical assistance. they didn t just do it on their own? it strain e eed crew duality think it could be used without assistance. you have evidence of that? we want investigators to do their work. i don t have an indication now that a system was brought over and we don t exactly know who is responsible for firing that missile or with or with what assistance. what i m saying is that system is fairly sophisticated. so what is the level of their training and assistance? does it include russian forces going across the border into ukraine to work as advisers or trainers side by side with the separatists? there s been russian there s been incursions across the border by russian aircraft so, i mean, i think we have we don t have any reason to suspect that they haven t provided some measure of support on the other side of that border. i mean, these paramilitary forces that we don t talk about as much anymore certainly didn t act or behave or like some ragtag militia. so nobody s suggesting that russian military advice and assistance hasn t somehow crossed that border. it s just unclear exactly how much and when and who. again, that s what the investigators are going to look at. we got to let them do it. are we to believe it was just a coincidence that the president announced sanctions directly on the maker of this buks system just the day before? i won t get into the thought process behind the president s specific decisions. clearly, these are another round of targeted sanctions. designed to change the calculation and president s putin s behavior and decision making. what you re seep m to think what you re suggesting [ inaudible ] i have no information that s the case. second question, what s the working theory about the intent? was this an intended military target gone awry? or was this simply an act of terrorism perhaps? we don t know. again, that s what we ve got to let investigators figure out. we don t know what the motive was here. what is your theory? what is your working theory? i don t think we have a working theory at this point. this just happened yesterday. there s teams of investigators now trying to get to the site and pore through this. we just have to let them do their job. admiral, people in this department have said before that there were about 10,000 to 12,000 regular russian troops inside the russian side of the border, which is a build-up from a couple of weeks ago. is that still your estimate? have those forces changed since this attack yesterday? can you tell us about, you know, as much as you can what they re doing or what their posture is in terms of a potential incursion? yes, that s a great question. i don t know of any major change to that presence. it s roughly, still, about 10,000 to 12,000. and it fleck wait fluctuates ae bit from week to week. the point is, it has been, over time, a steady increase of these combined arms tactical battalions across the border on the russian side but to the southeast of ukraine. and they are close to the border. in many cases, closer than those forces who were more aligned along the east. if you remember, we had tens of thousands that were along the eastern border with ukraine, but not as close as these units appear to be. all they re doing is further escalating tension. it s difficult to know what their intent is. that s a question you should ask the russian military defense. they re there. they re going by size week by week. they do nothing more than escalate tension. is that process separate from these regular i haven t seen any indication they re actively involved in the provision of support to the separatists. i haven t seencontinuing to mas along that side of the border. justin. two questions. do that massing of forces, does that include air, defense, artillery systems like the sa 11 that was used in malaysian have you seen air defense equipment on the russian side of the border in that build-up? i don t have an inventory of what they ve got with them, justin. we assess these are combined arms units. in other words, it s not just infantry troops, but they have artillery capability, they ve got armor capability. they re combined arms. and they re very ready. this is a very capable force. though smaller in number than what was aligned along the border before. i don t have a complete inventory of what they ve got. an estimate of about 12,000 russian troops on the border in the russian side. obviously, the u.s. has been tracking the work of russian special operations forces, russian advisers, russian intelligence services, in ukraine. is there an estimate of the size of that advisory presence inside the eastern ukraine by russian forces? is it a handful? is it 1,000 guys? i don t have the number for you on that. that s less important than the fact that they continue to do it. and we continue to see this support and resourcing and advice given to these separatist groups. we have every indication that support is russian, coming from the russians. in ukraine we believe there are there is russian support for the separatists inside ukraine, yes. admiral, when the general was here a couple weeks ago, he said specifically that the ukrainian separatists were receiving training on russian territory on using what he called vehicle born anti-aircraft systems. how much training, can you elaborate, has that intensified in recent weeks, and was he referring to an as-11-type system? i don t know what assessment he was referring to but we agree some separatists have received training in these vehicle born systems. there s no question about that. i don t have i mean, i don t have an estimate of how many and who s doing it. that would have to raise particular alarms, wouldn t it? it s one thing, small arms. but vehicle born anti-aircraft systems, that s pretty serious. it is pretty serious. we ve been taking it serious. we ve been monitoring the situation there as closely as we can. and we ve been nobody in the pentagon has been shy about talking about the continued threat posed by these separatist elements in ukraine or by those combined arms forces continuing to amass along the border. phil. has the pentagon or u.s. government increased its surveillance of the area along the border in the wake of this disast disaster? i would just say that we re monitoring events as closely as we can. and i really don t have any more to add than that. you don t want to say whether it s increased or not? we re monitoring events as closely as we can. i ll go back to the general s comments. were there any warnings given to the commercial airline companies or any civilian airline authorities about the existence or this level of training for those taking place there was a notice to airmen put out. i think you know that. that warns civilian aircraft to fly, to take care over the skies of ukraine and to fly at higher altitudes. not an expert on that entire process but there was an international notice to civilian air carriers about that. was that prompted by what the general said, the training of vehicle born you d have to talk to the faa and other agencies that handle that. i don t know what prompted it. i think it was obviously if you re going to issue a warning like that, it s based on concerns that you have about surface to air missile activity and capabilities. yeah. you said that you don t know what the intent was of whoever fired the missile. were there any indications there were other airlines, perhaps ukrainian military planes, in the sky at that time? also, is there any concern the president keeps saying put be wants to stop this, he can. are there any concerns perhaps this is a situation that is poised to spiral out control and perhaps russian doesn t have the control of the separatists and, if so, how are you preparing? on your first question, i don t know. this is ukrainian airspace. i remembfer to them to speak ab that. we wouldn t have that here. on your second question, i think the president s been very clear about what the responsibilities and obligation of president putin and moscow are right now. which is to deit s calculate the tension. respect the territorial integrity of ukraine. and cease support for the separatist activities. which i said at the outset, in some cases, is intensifying. even after yesterday s incidents? i don t know of any big delta between their support from yesterday to today. we haven t seen any sign that it s not that it s stopping. yes. admiral, there had been previous to yesterday s tragedy, there had been two or three, at least, ukrainian transport planes shot down. does your intelligence and your knowledge indicate the system that shot down the plane yesterday was a more powerful, more sophisticated system requiring more training, or was it similar to the system that was used to shoot down the ukrainian transport planes? it s again, we re investigating this right now. it s unclear exactly what brought down the other aircraft you re talking about. i mean, we know they were shot down, but those those incidents are still being looked into. i don t have any great visibility on what brought them down. but i d like to just kind of bring you back to the larger point here. that these aircraft are being shot down. and while it s unclear exactly who s pulling the trigger here, it s pretty clear it s doing nothing to deitescalate the tension inside ukraine and to bring to this crisis a peaceful resolution. now innocent people simply flying from one city to another have been killed. and brought into this. so let s not lose sight of the big picture here. it matters a lot less, you know, exactly what system it was and a lot more that it happened and it needs to stop. just a quick follow, do you believe whoever shot this plane down could have mistaken for a ukrainian military transport? ei m not going to get into te motivations, the intent, the reasoning that went into this. that s for the investigators to figure out. we simply don t have that level of detail at this point. ma am. normally friend or foe measures on systems like this? if it was an accident, would that reveal a dangerous lack of training on the part of whoever was using it? i don t know yet. i m not an expert on that system. i wouldn t begin to get up here and try to dissect it for you. investigators are going to pile through this. exactly who are these investigators? it will be it s an international investigation. does it include dod, does it include cia there s no plans right now for a dod representative on this. i won t speak for other agencies. i believe there will be some other entities from the federal government, individuals going over there to participate in it. i don t have the makeup of the team. it will be an international investigation. do you anticipate i have no expectation right now there will be a dod rep on this team. the president said he saw no role for the u.s. military in responding to this. but what ever happened to that list of requests for equipment that the ukrainians sent at the beginning of this? yeah, we continue to review requests for, or ukrainian requests for military assistance. some $33 million that the president has authorized of material has been getting to ukrainian, ukrainian armed forces and border services. the support continues to flow. we continue to take a look at their needs and addressing each in turn. last i remember, it was mres. is there any do you have a more complete list? yes, there s been more. the recent deliveries include radios, body armor, individual first aid kits, sleeping mats, uniform items. over the next few months, additional items will move through to include night vision goggles, thermal imageers, kevlar, some additional radios. there s been some other equipment given to ukraine s border guards. barbed wire, alarms systems. excavato excavators. trucks, generators. xun cations. communications. gear. part of a package of more than $33 million now that the president has approved and that stuff continues to flow. listening to a spokesman at the pentagon. want to bring in our jim sciutto. want to bring in our chief national security correspondent jim sciutto. one of the things the spokesman from the pentagon said earlier, said it strained credulity they could do this without russian assistance, it was a fairly sophisticated device used. although they certainly don t foe who pushed the trigger. that was exactly the line i was thinking, anderson, the most significant from that press conference. follows on with what the president was saying earlier, this is not an accident, in the president s words, that they can t shoot the separatists couldn t shoot down the plane without sophisticated assistance. that assistance coming from russia. then on the floor of the security council, saying the systems are complicated, it s likely the separatists would have needed russian help, russian training. and now in addition to that, anderson, you have the u.s. intelligence community saying it s their working theory at this point that that missile system itself, the actual launcher, came across the border from russia. we have some audio we ve obtained, again, from ukrainian officials, seeming to show that that launcher came across the border. so that gives direct, as popposo just indirect, goes to the question you asked earlier, who bears the consequence to this. the president, goingrd too, you have to envision him marshalling support for stiffer sanctions against russia. yesterday, there had been some thought perhaps there was a system captured by pro-russian rebels from the ukrainian military. but as you just said, a senior defense official is at thing cnn their work theory abeimong the military is russian military supplied this buk missile system. it s a if question. this is what i was told. their working theory is this missile system came from a ukrainian base in crimea and that it was transferred from crimea to eastern ukraine, but via russian territory. if you look at a map, it would have to go from ukraine, through, you know, one route would be to take it through russia. that was their working theory. one of the comeing, many questions that hasn t been established yet. based on the statement from the pentagon, the president, our u.n. ambassador, that they would at least need training to operate this thing as well and that adds more responsibility. we re going to talk, when we come back, to a reporter on scene at the crash site for the latest on exactly what s happening there. we ll be right back. great. but parallel parking isn t one of them. you re either too far from the curb. or too close to other cars. it s just a matter of time until you rip some guy s bumper off. so, here are your choices: take the bus. or get liberty mutual insurance. for drivers with accident forgiveness, liberty mutual won t raise your rates due to your 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maps out and split up the territory. at the same time, it wasn t a sophisticated approach. they were still tying white cotton to stakes and basically walking through the fields and marking these spots. and the local population started emerging from their homes. people in the village down below sort of walking their cows trying to make sense of what had happened. many of them still in deep shock. there had been some reports of possible looting or removal of items or removal even of debris. did you see any of that? i myself didn t. i spoke to a colleague who had been sort of at the outskirts of the perimeter and saw a few guys going through suitcase that had fall en from the sky and talkin about whether to take a guide book. to say there s been extensive looting, at least during the morning period while i was there, is pretty difficult. you know, the perimeter there is being controlled. there s one rebel commander there who told me essentially by three groups. one is a set of fighters from nearby. the cosacks appear to be the wild card as always in this situation. so it s a little more difficult to say what s happening on their side of things. did yesterday you had talked that in some cases they were moving bodies, sort of trying to get all the victims together. does that continue today? did you see that? no, they haven t actually been touching the bodies at all from what i ve seen. they as far as we know have been asked through back channels. the prime minister of the donetsk people republic has been asked not to touch the bodies by malaysian and dutch authorities, suggesting people are still hoping there will be a chance for folks, international observers and investigators to enter the area. the concern of course is you have hundreds of bodies decaying in a field before anyone has a chance to get to them. it s summer here. it was raining actually earlier in the day. to put it simply, it s not ideal conditions. did it seem to you that most i mean, obviously, investigators are going to be looking at what kind of wreckage pieces of the wreckage and also even people themselves. are most of the people i m not sure how to ask this, are most of the people intact? i think it s about 50/50. i did a walk-through this morning and sort of in the daylight and counted roughly 50, 50 bodies, and i d say at least half of them are so mangled you simply couldn t identify them. some just kind of twisted corpses that look almost picasso-esque. but at the same time there are others that if handled properly, could be clearly identified. are there still we ve seen images of large pieces of wreckage. are most of the pieces very identifiable? most of the pieces of the debris? are there large chunks of the aircraft still intact? it seeps the debris split into sort of two clusters as it fell from the sky. the tail fin sort of further up the road. and some other debris scattered in that vicinity. and then the main crash site, which is closer to the village at the lower end of the field seems to be where the fuselage, the engines, landed. a lot of that has been burnt out. the flight hadn t taken off too long before it went down, so there was a lot of fuel still in the tank. you can really see that when you walk through the crash site. some of the alloy from the plane has sort of melted, resolidified. silver on the ground. in terms of do you have any information about black boxes or flight data recorders? there have been conflicting reports cy don t have anything that i could confirm. i ve heard the same conflicting reports that everyone has all day. and folks are continuing from both sides. to report at one moment that they have them and the next moment that they don t have them. so i think it s, again, a moment where it s worth waiting, not rushing to conclusions. and letting the situation play out a little bit in order to find out what s actually going on. ukrainian officials said they have been trying to get access to the site. in some cases, there work has been hampered. do you see any evidence officials from ukraine or accident investigators either doing work or trying to get access to a site? in the morning, there was nobody from ukraine or international groups there. i heard a group of observers visited the site. apparently there was an incident where some of the cosack guards either didn t understand exactly who the osce was or didn t appreciate their presence and caused some problems in terms of entry to the site. though rebel leaders have assured me that they will continue to and intend to allow international observers and journalists to work, they said their command is not to let locals on to the site. but beyond that, they don t plan to inpose any restrictions. i know you have also been talking to a number of pro-russian rebel leaders and spokespeople. what are they telling you, in terms of claims of responsibility, in terms of what they want to see happen? you know, it s an interesting question. it points to a larger problem. in terms of the long-term standing of eastern ukraine. most of the rebels here, i would say frankly across the board, deny responsibility for this. they claim it s a provocation conjured up by the ukrainian authorities in kiev. many of them claim they don t have is the equipment or that they don t have enough of the components of this missile system buk to actually hit this plane. when it comes to the fighters themselves, i think it s a moment where perception proves to be more powerful than reality. for these folks, even if evidence is presented by the western by western governments or by kiev, it s politicized in the eyes of the rebel fighters. these are men who have been fighting now for three months, if not a little bit more, and they ve given up their regular lives. there doesn t seem to be anyone saying that they re ready to rethink their position or to rethink their cause as a result of the malaysian airlines disaster. so the video posted by ukraine s interior ministry on its facebook page showing a buk system, according to the ukraine officials, heading towards russia, with one missile missing, things like that, that s all discounted by anybody in the rebels who you talked to? absolutely. to put it mildly, they don t trust a word that kiev says. i think anything that s released by the current authorities in kiev is seen in rebel eyes as fabricated, as intended to essentially to draw nato into ukraine. that s the understanding. the rebels think ukrainians want to establish more precedent to involve nato forces in ukraine in order to escalate western involvement and western attachment to the new government in kiev. is there anything else you want people to know about the crash site, about what is happening there right now? you know, i think one, for me, the important thing to note is there s still a lot of work to be done in order to secure the bodies. there s a lot of people talking about talking about the parts of the plane. talking about establishing evidence chains in order to have a proper investigation. and all of that is it s certainly important, but i think, especially for the for anyone who s walked through that scene, the bodies, the effects of the people on board, would receive as much attention as the more politicized debris are there capabilities there to properly handle the victims of this crash? are there morgue facilities? are there refrigeration, you know, mobile refrigeration trucks? can at this point, do they need all that to help? i think they do need all of that. i don t think they have it. the rebel quote/unquote minister alexander boridi mentioned today they don t have the proper equipment to store and secure and maintain the bodies so that s perhaps an area where the international community, observers could play a role, seems to be a point on which the separatist leadership is ready to cooperate. how easy is it to get to this site? i mean, is it because it s, you know, as we ve seen in past instan instances, it s very possible you may have family members wanting to come to the crash site as soon as possible. is how remote is it? how possible is it to actually get there? it s about 90 minutes from the regional capital donetsk where i m actually right now. it s off in a classic ukrainian countryside village, down sort of pothole-riddled roads, but the main issue i think for anyone traveling in this region right now is effectively the roads are controlled by the separatist groups. you have to pass through a series of checkpoints in order to move along the roads. i don t imagine they would be particular particularly happy or particularly kind to visiting foreigners. all journalists here have to receive accreditation through the separatist authorities. without that press card, you end up you end up held, held back from moving, moving around. it s not a at the same tie, there s still there s still fighting going on. there s still skirmishes. the city near to the crash site. so it s not an especially safe place to be traveling, although, again, i imagine on the issue of the bodies themselves and the folks impacted by the crash, the rebels seem a bit more willing to meet in the middle. noah schneider, i know, it s been an exhausting night for you. thank you. we ll continue to check in with noah in the coming days. up next, i ll talk to my panel about preserving what is a crime scene, multiple crime scenes, over a wide area, and the investigation of the crash. at every ford dealership, you ll find the works! it s a complete checkup of the services your vehicle needs. so prepare your car for any road trip by taking it to an expert ford technician. because no matter your destination good maintenance helps you save at the pump. get our multi-point inspection with a synthetic blend oil change, tire rotation, brake inspection and more for $29.95 or less. get a complete vehicle checkup only at your ford dealer. joining know new is the former inspector general of the nstb. our military analyst. and in washington, peter golz, a specialist in aviation and international crisis management. also joining us is david soucie, cnn aviation analyst. appreciate all of you being with us. david, we were just hearing from noah schneider about the crash scene. from what he said, in terms of trying to, trying to investigate this, what challenges lay ahead? this really isn t just one crime scene, this is multiple crime scenes spread out over a great distance. yes, it is. documenting it is a challenge just when it s a singular accident but now you ve got several different things that have to be treated as accident sites. if bodies are falling separately, those have to be documented as well, what tract tra jektry the object that hit the ground went what will give clues what type of explosion it was, what type of speed. there s a lot of conclusions to be had. if those are moved, it can lead you down the wrong path. even the conditions of the victims are important in all of this to determine what happened. that s absolutely right and of course the method of bringing down the plane, the residue. at this point, the air crash investigators can tell you it was a you know, a missile brought down a plane and how the plane came down. but at this point, i would be inclined to say this is not an article 13 iko accident investigation and treat it as an international crime scene explain the difference, how do you mean? at that point, like we did in 9/11, the united states, after the four planes on 9/11, the ntsb was not in charge, the fbi was in charge, because it was an international criminal investigation. you have many more powers. you have the power literally to seize evidence. you can go in and get what you want and what you need. they need that right now. just looking at the crime scene and the report, great report, but it s out of control. rick, how do you see it? well, you know, they need to get the evidence and as david said i think it s important we find out how that weapon impacted that aircraft, to find out what it did and that might give us a better clue as to the condition of the weapon. we re hearing different reports about where that came from. was it a front-line russian piece of equipment? was it something taken from a ukrainian base? was it modified? this would be important. peter golz, just as, you know, as noah was talking about, the priority is obviously dealing with the victims of this crash, dealing with them in a sensitive way, dealing with them in a humane way, in a dignified way. and right now they don t have the capabilities on the ground really to do that. no, they don t. what has to happen is there has to be international action to form a recovery team that goes in immediately. that is promised protection by both the ukrainians, the separatists and the russians. and if that kind of protection s not promised and not delivered, then there s got to be sanctions immediately placed. i mean, the evidence going to be there. after twa flight 800, we tested the explosive residue and the explosive evidence of a missile detonating near aircraft skin. the investigation will know what the marker is on that case, in this accident. they will see the evidence. but the most important thing is to get a team in immediately to begin recovering the victims and treating them with some dignity and that really is in the hands of the russians, the ukrainians and the and in terms of the black boxes, the flight data recorders, they are important, but even david soucie, even if they have been removed and again, we have not been able to confirm it, and noah has not been able to confirm the status of them, there is still the wreckage themselves, from the victims themselves. there is more to be learned than what the boxes would tell us. and at the very most with the black boxs, whether there was a warning or not, whether they had been tried to be contacted, taken evasive action to say we re off track, there is someone who doesn t want us to here, do they start to turn the other way. that would be the black box information. but as far as we have talked about earlier with the impact of what type of effect the ballistic missile that hit the aircraft or exploded outside the aircraft, that is important information to know so you can decide whether it came from. and have you ever seen a crash/crime scene like this? yes, i have. in terms of the different actors in play. yes, pan am 103, september 11, klo-7, and with the residue on the bodies and the plane, but now you re in an international criminal man hunt. and in the midst of conflict. in the midst of conflict and how they re going to secure even and the workers to come in and retrieve the bodies, they need to have security. they don t want to be harmed in that process. mary schiavo, david soucie, rick francona, we appreciate you being with us. president obama saying there were hiv aids advocates on board, committed to finding a cure. sanjay gupta looks at the global impact of their loss now. reporter: the health community around the world in utter shock. the international aids society says a number of its members were on board malaysia airlines flight 17. they were heading to the aids 2014 conference in melbourne, australia, scheduled to start this sunday. typically attended by thousands from all over the world. and among them, leading hiv experts. their loss, likely to have an impact on research regarding diagnosing, treating and curing the disease. president bill clinton is one of the keynote speakers at the conference. he says it s awful, sickening, what has happened to so many people. they were doing so much good. we do this on a regular basis, have these international aids conferences. and i try to go to all of them, because i m always so inspired by what other people are doing and what we can learn from them. and so since i left office, it s been a kind of a regular part of my life, thinking about those people being knocked out of the sky. it s pretty tough. reporter: one of the victims, prominent dutch scientist, lang. i first met him in 2004 when he presided in bangkok. those who knew him say he was a hard core scientist with the heart of an activist, who worked tirelessly to get affordable aids drugs for hiv positive patients living in poor countries. one small example of his work. he was the one that argued if coca-cola could get refrigerated beverages to places all over africa, then we should be able to do the same with refrigerated hiv medications. it s going to be a huge impact, both on people who worked closely with him, people in his lab, and on the society as a whole. it s an incredible loss. we are all just bracing ourselves to arrive and find out who else may have been on that flight. it s just unbelievable. it s really real yet. reporter: the world health organization tells us glen thomas was on board that flight. he worked with us here at cnn during our coverage of the ebowla outbreak. he was planning his 50th birthday celebration. his life and so many others cut tragically short. and dr. sanjay gupta joins me live from the cnn center in atlanta. what more can you tell us about the victims and the work that they were doing? this international aids conference has been around for some time. nearly 30 years now. and this is the one sort of conference where researchers from all over the world were working sometimes in large labs and small labs, funded in different ways, came together to try and share the research, to really accelerate what was happening in the world of hiv/aids. jep lang, one of the first people to look at maternal to child transmission of hiv, do some of the early research in that area. and trying to figure out how to prevent it. we ve covered these types of stories. it s impossible to try you could not overestimate the impact of the sort of work that many of these people did who were lost on that flight. i think more people will come in to fill those ranks, but it s going to really cast a pallor over the society s meeting. this is a brain trust of people who have dedicated their lives to it and spent years on it. and knowledge like that. obviously beyond the human tragedy for their families, for their friends, for all who knew them. for this has an impact on globally on efforts fighting hiv/aids. we re talking about the last 30 years, when we have really started to research and focus on hiv/aids since the early 80s. and there are people who have spent their entire lives, interprofessional lives doing nothing but this. as you say, they re wealth of experience, knowledge, brain trust, that s that was their whole life. and so those people, again it s not to say there aren t other people who can fill those ranks, but some real leaders. jep lang, i interviewed him in 2004 in bangkok, talked to him about some of the work they were doing at that time. and he was the president of the whole organization. so gives an idea of the stature of this 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restricted zone at the moment. still so many questions to be answered. and there s going to be a lot of finger-pointing over the next several hours, days and even weeks as this investigation begins to intensify. let s take a kind of a look back now at all we know. at the top of the hour, thank you very much for joining us, it is 3:00 here on the east coast of the united states. we are following breaking news this hour. right now it is 10:00 p.m. in ukraine where earlier today the horrifying scene was captured on camera, the moment a passenger jet falls from the sky, exploding on impact. the tragedy without a doubt. but was it an accident? right now it appears very likely this plane may have been intentionally shot down over eastern ukraine. we don t know for sure. there s a lot we don t know. here s what we know right now. this was malaysian airlines flight a boeing 777 traveling from amsterdam to kuala lumpur in malaysian. on board, 295 people, 280 of them passengers. 15 of them crew members. there are reports americans were among the passengers. president obama commenting on that a short time ago. obviously, the world is watching reports of a downed passenger jet near the russia/ukraine border. it looks like it may be a terrible tragedy. right now we re working to determine whether there were american citizens on board. that is our first prior to. and i ve directed my national security team to stay in close contact with the ukrainian government. the united states will offer any assistance we can to help determine what happened and why. and as a country, our thoughts and prayers are with all the families of the passengers, wherever they call home. the president making no mention of the back and forth going on right now between ukraine and russia. the ukrainian president calling this a terrorist act. of course, we should also point out that on this day in 1996, twa flight 800 crashed into the water off the coast of long island in the united states. those inside the interior ministry in ukraine claiming this plane was shot down by pro-russia separatists using a russian made missile system, a buk, capable of hitting a target 70,000 feet up. this passenger jet was at a cruising altitude of 32,000 feet. cnn is on the ground in ukraine. let s go to victoria butenko in kiev and tom foreman with a closer look at what unfolded. victoria, what s the latest you re hearing from kiev? and we just lost victoria. we ll get her back shortly. let s go to tom foreman with a look. we ve been looking all day at this buk anti aircraft system or anti missile system as it is called out there. we don t know this is what was used. we re looking at the capability of the system, if, in fact, it could accomplish such a thing. if you look at the flight pattern, you see it came across the country as we have discussed, wound up down here before it went down. let me put it on to a more normal map so you can see more of what we re talking about. that puts the crash site down in this area, and this is russia, all over here. all of the green out here, this is all russia. so you re getting quite close to russian territory, 18 miles away from where the plane went down. that s within range. but also it could be within the area, because this is what we re talking about when we refer to the buk system. it is highly mobile, operated by four people. it has four ready-to-launch missiles on top of it. it s quite fast. from the time this thing is rolling to the time it can stop and be ready to fire is five minutes or less. the radar acquisition target acquisition system can find a target and fire a missile in about 22 seconds. so this thing can be moving very quickly, can fire fast and can be gone fast. so no matter where this came from, if, in fact, it was a missile, the launcher could now be very, very far from where it all happened. let s talk a little bit more about the missiles up on top there. there are many different configures for the buk. but if they re using the 9m-317 missiles, each 16 feet long, each weighs 1,500 pounds, carries a 154-pound warhead, high explosive, 154 pounds, that s extraordinary. and all it has to do is guess close to the plane. it can t actually impact its target but get close to a plane and it blows up with tremendous force. and this is really important note here. look at the speed of this. 2,684 miles an hour. that s around three times the speed of sound. this is unbelievably fast. a missile streaking through the sky like that. when you compare it to a plane like this, which is flying along at maybe around, let s say 600 miles an hour, you see that not only could a missile like that be guided in, because it is guided the whole way, to a plane like this, but it could come in so quickly, truly nobody on board, including the crew, might have any idea it s coming. the truth is, if this is what happened, this plane could have been hit and nobody on board would have the slightest idea it was headed their way. and we know from the map we showed earlier it is happening in a region over here, this highly contested region, where pro-russian separatists at work. this is crimea down here. so right in the hot zone. and certainly weapons are capable. one last note, anderson, i want to throw in here. we know they have the buk system is and could reach across the border. we speculate as to whether or not the separatists have such systems. but in all fairness, we have to note that ukraine has been a very important partner with russia for many years in developing missile systems. and despite some difficulties of the late 90s, their missile system is robust here. their production, technology, knowledge. so the ukrainians would have such systems. not incapable of this. that s why we have to be careful about deciding if it was a missile and if so, who fired it? anderson? is. yeah. tom foreman, i appreciate that update. fascinating details about the buk system. i want to go to christian amanpour joining us from london. christian, obviously there is the human tragedy of this, and, you know, and our thoughts and well wishes and prayers are with the families of the 295 people on board, some probably watching right now, trying to get as much as they can. it s very hard sometimes for families to get information directly from the airlines in the early stages of something like this. but there are also strategic considerations, military considerations, geopolitical considerations, in all of this. this is a potentially game-changing situation for the conflict in eastern ukraine. reporter: well, i would absolutely say it is. and to that point, we have just seen dmitry medvedev, the russian prime minister, has posted on facebook, on his site, condolences to all killed and all of their families calling it a terrible tragedy, making no illusions as to what happened or how it happened but very quick to post condolences. let s talk now about what we do know. over the last several weeks, there has been a pattern of aircraft downed in that very region. june 14th, a ukrainian transport military plane down. ukraine accusing and mentioning that two other planes, this week, were downed. and i had a lengthy, lengthy conversation with ukraine s foreign minister on my program yesterday who told me that over the last several weeks, there has been no let up in the russian control of the border. in other words, of russians allowing fighters and material to come from russia into ukraine. he specifically mentioned not just mercenaries but tanks and anti air missiles, as he called them. so this has actually been going on and not just ukraine saying that. it s also europe. the chief european leader who has been spearheading the move to confront the russians over crimea and the continued destabilization in eastern ukraine is german chancellor angela merkel. and just yesterday she said they are considering more sanctions on russia, because they have not met vladimir putin, despite his promises to all those leaders at d-day which we all broadcast live, has not met his promise to stop the flow of weapons and fighters across the border, to stop destabilizing that area. has not met the promise to have a contact group for peace negotiations. and the foreign minister for ukraine very clear on what hasn t happened and so the escalation of heavy weaponry coming over the last several days and weeks, anderson. we have seen that, certainly. and also the growth of russian forces, christiane on the border, more than 10,000 said to be there after a period of which it appeared that russian forces had dwindled in number, they seem to be rebuilding those forces. reporter: that, plus the fact that the international community, president obama, chancellor merkel, the new ukrainian president, petro poroshenko, overwhelmingly elected at the end of may, had wanted to have peace talks with the separatists. president poroshenko thought he had president putin s support and acquiescence on that, there was a so-called contact group which involved the russians and other nations to try to bring this conflict to anent. and that has produced no result. the foreign minister spoke with the head of the russian sort of the russian part of this over the last couple days and said we need to get these talks back on track, because no matter what the evidence turns out to be over what happened to this malaysian airline flight, there have been these planes downed regularly over the last three or four weeks. in that area. plus this fight still going on. and there is no tangible evidence of russia doing anything to stop it, despite president putin s public calls for a peaceful settlement. so there is a double game being played over there and it is now an incredibly dangerous one. and obviously as you said, if this does prove to be the worst-case scenario, it is a massive game changer in terms of this conflict. we should point out, christiane, there have been improvements by ukrainian military forces and their capabilities against separatist groups early on. we saw in crimea and elsewhere, kind of an inability by ukrainian forces really to defend themselves or hold on to territory. that seems to have shifted under the new president. they do seem to have whether it s a fighting spirit or more experienced forces. they have made some games gains on the ground against separatist groups. reporter: yes, indeed, they did in the region a couple weeks and took back that area. but the separatists moved down to donetsk and sort of the regrouped and are still holding out there and this is what the ukrainian government wants to solve peacefully. i asked specifically the foreign minister about whether there was going to be an he escalation of their counter offensives. and he said we don t want to do that. he said we are even ready to hold video conferences to have peace talks with those separatists if they refuse to meet with us now. so even before this plane was brought i see you want to go live. ukraine government spokesman. let s listen in. translator: to establish the links of those of the militants, links of the militants of the russian federations. [ speaking in foreign language ] english, european, france, we send our condolences and providing to ukraine today, making public. we are providing to all international media, to all people, to all relatives, people who lost their relatives, family members in these anti humanic crime in donetsk, we are providing those recorded phone calls, where two officers, two military officers of russia, gru, minister of defense, discussing, one reporting and one is receiving, the report the shutdown of the plane over the territory of ukraine in donetsk exactly at 4:20 p.m. one officer, russian officer, who is reporting is a terrorist, gru russian federation. and the person who received the phone call is cornell wasili and also the russian gru officer. we are also providing to all media, international media, a russian cell phone number used by cornell guranan, while receiving the report. we also are providing the intercepted and recorded phone calls where terrorists are discussing to each other that they arrived to the place where the plane shut down. that they were recognized that the plane is civilian. and they also discuss that there are many, a great number of casualties on the scene, on the site. or where the plane crashed down. we a ukrainian government, will continue to investigate this criminal case, not terrorist, criminal case. which was conducted and committed again by those. two of them i established at this conversation at least documented phone calls gru officers of russian federation. again, let me express deep and sincere con dole he sayses to all people who lost their dearest members of their families. thank you very much. condolences. it s been spokesman for the ukrainian government there. i want to go to noah schneider, an american freelance journalist who i m told is on site. noah, you re here with richard quest on cnn. where are you exactly? reporter: we are in the village a little ways north of a city called torez. it s kind of a long road and a big wide field where the wreckage from the plane is spread out and there is still emergency services working, but it s getting pretty dark so folks are trying to wrap-up for the day. who is in control of the site and what are you seeing? reporter: the site is controlled by the separatist dnr donetsk people s republic forces. there s some rebels down the road. but i think most people here have been hearing battles with the ukrainian forces for are a few days now, stationed not far down the road. at the moment, i m not seeing anything. it s pretty dark. but when you get here it s a gruesome scene. people said the plane exploded in the air and the plane rained down in bits and pieces. the plane itself, the people inside. how intact is the debris you saw earlier? how large are the pieces of debris? reporter: pretty burnt. it s going to be close to impossible to establish what happened here. there are big huge pieces still intact. but for the most part everything is burnt up and charred and scattered over a few kilometers. noah, this is richard quest. this the debris field, is the site, is it secured in any way or are local people able to get access to it, to get access to the property, to go through what s there? reporter: i don t think anyone here in the village has even bothered doing that, to be honest. most are so frightened they have not come near. there are two nests of rebel fighters at the end of the road. but even they themselves are just in shock. most people here haven t seen anything like this, as one man said to me, nothing has happened in this village for 30 years. and then suddenly this. how wide a field of debris are we talking about? reporter: i mean, it s hard to say with certainty, but maybe 5 kilometers. it s a pretty wide radius. and the debris starts up the road. there is a tailspin, and you come further down and you see the place where the emergency services crews have set up a base of sorts. some firefighters, rescue teams. and they re kind of in the center of where most it landed. there a white tent in the field where they are collecting bodies. but you can wander through the open fields. there is not much of anything. there is a chicken farm nearby or chicken factory, as someone said. and then these little ukrainian villages. dilapidated homes, and and not much of anything. so an effort has been made and is being made to collect the remains of those on board. reporter: absolutely, absolutely. rescue teams have been going through the fields the last few hours, marking where bodies are, tying white, cotton ribbons to sticks. so as you walk through the fields, if you see one of those you know that s where a body is. but there is is still a lot 295 people on this plane. and i don t think they ve found all of them yet. and it s too dark now really to do much more work. so people are trying to figure out at the moment what to do with this site for the night. like i said, it s kind of an open peeled. open field. it s unclear. they don t know what will happen overnight. and it s going to be really difficult for anyone to secure this in a way that would be certain that no one can come in. when you say the rescue workers have been going through the debris and making these marks for where bodies are, where have these rescue workers come from? are they the separatists? reporter: no, these are local men who have stayed and worked despite everything that s happening. they re political persuasion here i think are beside the point. they were called, and they came. from pretty much any town that was within range. and they themselves are kind of stunned and have never seen anything like this. one of the firefighting teams putting out the wreckage was driving sort of an old fire truck and the fire hose had holes in it. so they were trying to put the remains of the flames and there was water spraying everywhere. i don t think they ve really had to use it much. do you know what sort of capability they hve for caring for the victims of this flight in terms of i mean, is there a morgue nearby? reporter: they have improvis improvised. no, but is there a morgue nearby? reporter: yeah, so there s two towns, two larger cities nearby, one torez, and and both of which are rebel controlled. the morgues are still working, so the bodies will be taken to the morgue there or in donetsk. i don t think the regional morgues have the capability to handle this number of individuals. when there was a battle at the airport, a month ago now, something like 50 people died and they don t have space immediately at donetsk, the regional capital. so it s going to be a big question. i don t think it s one that people on the ground here have quite gotten around to resolving. and obviously, noah, auto said, these are people, these are people taken upon themselves to do what they can to care for the bodies, to sort through this wreckage. has anyone there expressed any opinions about what happens next in terms of who should investigate this crash? we ve heard through other corresponden correspondents, through leadership from separatist groups they want an international body to investigate. are you hearing that from anyone on the ground here? reporter: yeah, i m hearing that from the separatists, the people in the village, i don t think they have much sense of where it could go. the separatists are saying they want an international commission, they want to send the airplane s black box back to moscow for investigation. there is actually one of the separatist leaders is up the road from me giving a press conference of some sort. so i think they re going to put out a plan. pretty quickly. i imagine it will be nearly impossible for the ukrainian authorities to visit this site. as far as you know, have they found the black box? reporter: i can t confirm that one way or the other. i haven t seen it myself. have they commented on that at all? reporter: they have been quiet. i haven t heard anyone say i ve got it. so darkness has now arrived. there is a difficulty in securing the area. and i m wondering, what happens now? because what must be late in the evening now, getting late in the evening. what happens now during the overnight hours, do you believe? reporter: i hope there will be an understanding between both sides that there needs to be a night of peace here. and they re going to set up a permanent sort of base for rescue teams and firefighters. but there s not much they can do beyond wait. one point to bring out to anderson, europe s flight safety body has just closed eastern ukrainian air space. noah, do you have a expense sense of how many people are onsite. reporter: dozens. rescue crews arrived a couple hours ago. there were two or three fire trucks and kind of spread out and so i would say dozens of local sort of rescue workers. and more and more rebel fighters. so now i would say there s dozens of them, as well. like i said, it s a pretty big area what we re talking about. so i haven t walked the entire perimeter yet. we have seen images, noah, of passports, a travel book for bali. are people s possessions clearly visible and retrievable? reporter: it s visible. it s visible and they re being collected. that s one of the things these rescue teams are doing. as you walk through the field you see a man with his cracked iphone sticking out of his pocket. sort of people s clothing everywhere. most of it s kind of ripped off by the air. other suitis cases and stuff in a while along the road. one was telling us headphones. peoplen had been flying watchi watching movies so they have been finding lots and lots of headphones. have you ever seen anything like this, noah? reporter: in my life, to be completely honest. this is beyond i mean, i ve been in ukraine now for a few months and there has been fighting and you can certainly call it a war but nothing of this scale has happened. and i think that s it s not just it s not just the locals, it s not just the fighters. but a lot of the folks coming, journalis journalists, are kind of stunned. do you think this will change anything. reporter: it s tough to say. it will clearly change things. it s a pretty massive event. but it s way too soon to be talking about who actually did this. there is too much we don t know and too many possible versions of story to get into right now. i think the task is to do right by people on the flight. to have the decency to pause the politics for the moment and collect the bodies and have a proper investigation here. how it change, you have to and mr. putin and mr. obama and mr. poroshenko and leaders. and noah, is an effort being made to collect passports, to collect identity documents? reporter: yeah. i mean, they re trying to collect everything they can. but first and foremost, bodies. i think that s and my sense is that s the rescue crew s number one priority right now. collect as many bodies as they can and gather them under these ten tents, these gathering points. some people are picking up personal effects. some people are walking straight by them. it s also, you know, keep in mind, it s kind of it s a long grass. and like i said, again, a really wide field. so finding things like passports is chance. noah, i appreciate you talking with us. i know this is a horrific scene. reporter: yeah, absolutely. thank you. and i appreciate the way you ve handled it and communicated it to our viewers. thank you very much. noah sneider, an american, freelance journalist, on the scene of this crash. one thing to point out from listening to this extraordinary account from noah. an aircraft crash site is an extremely danger allows but very complex environment. and not only for the debris of the aircraft that needs to be preserved so you can work out what happened, but the preservation of bodies. the respect and dignity. the personal effects. and that why in most cases you have this security zone that goes around it to stop basically do-gooders oral well meaning people. i notice the separatists are talking about a two to three-day truce to allow refer work and recovery work ers to go in and do the job to get the job done. and i have been in situations where there are bodies and i head hate to refer to them as bodies because these are men and women and families just living their lives. it s for those families listening right now to our coverage, i hope there is some small consolation in hearing from noah that there are people on-scene right now who are trying to care with compassion and with tenderness for the victims of this crash who are trying to gather all those who have died together and who are trying to do their best to take care of them as best they can. we re joined also by a journalist, victoria butenko, joining us from kiev, the capital of ukraine. what are you hearing from are the government there in kiev? reporter: well, one of the most disturbing statements we hear is actually from the locals in donetsk who say that neither emergency services or law enforcement agencies have access to the site. the territory where the airplane crash happen is fully controlled by the separatists and they are afraid this will interfear with finding out the reason and compromise the evidence. central government is trying very hard to show how open it is to inviting international investigators. and in kiev, they said the flight did not experience any problems with communication. much much i appreciate your update. we re going to take a short break. we re anticipating hearing from joe biden. we ll bring that to you live. we ll be right back. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn t pay all my medical expenses, i looked at my options. then i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. 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well, the first thing to know is that if the aircraft was shot down and if it was flying at its normal cruising level of above 30,000 feet, we re talking about an air defense system like the buk, which has been mentioned already on your show, sa-11 or bigger. so nighit s not shoulder-fired, something one man jumps out of a truck to do. it has to be i a team of defense personnel personnel. so fired by a national military unit, either ukrainian or russia, or it is fired by separatists who have been highly trained in the testimony and who, by the way, happen to have access to a system which most rebels would not have access to. so must have been given to them by some state government. general ryan, if you would hold with us, and i want to ask you about this. and he want israel s prime minister are has instructed the israeli defense systems to begin operations in gaza, not a huge surprise. this has been talked, anticipated for several days as a bombing campaign, rockets being fired by hamas militants into israel, as well as israeli forces firing into targets throughout gaza system and throughout gaza. christiane amanpour joining us from london. a dangerous ground operation by israeli defense forces, very tricky in the close quarters you find in gaza city. reporter: anderson, this had is potentially just incredible to behold. this is the third time in six years, maybe are month, there have been these incursions by air or by ground no gaza. and each and etch we have one a hostilities that never ends the crisis and keeps leading to further crisis. and now with the world s attention focused on this plane this is the time when everybody has to be paying attention also to that conflict and trying their best to mediate some kind of cessation. we have heard that they have all sorts of plans possibly they may implement now as ground offensive. including if the government says it has to do this, the military has said if they want to really root out what we call terrorists, this is not a week s or one-month operation. this is a many, many, many month operation. so everybody has to understand what this in fact does mean. i want to check in with our wolf politics blitzerer, a major escalation. reporter: a major statement, anderson, saying the israelis have died decided to go in on the ground. let me read a couple sentences. following ten days of hamas attacks by air are land and sea and offers to do dehe isca lace. there is an ground eggs within the gaza strip. to establish safety and security while striking significant blow to hamas infrastructure. it looks based on what i m reading, it looks like virtually all aspects of the idf are involved, infantry, artillery, intelligence, combined with aerial and naval support. the effort will also be supported by theis israeli security agency and other intelligence organization. so what so many of us had anticipated over the past ten days is about to happen. israel moving in on the ground into gaza. and as you know, the israeli military have activated military troops, reservists doing their regular jobs, spending time with their family. they were activated of the. meant to units, maybe not close to the border but where regulatory personnel could move. and are now be sbribt deliberately on ground. a huge development unfolding between hamas and gaza. and wolf, as you know, we have all spent time in gaza city. it operating on ground is going to be very difficult and dangerous. of course. there is going to be a lot of casualties, palestinian casualties, they ll go after hamas targets and there will be inevitably be civilians, women and children and elderly caught in the fire. 1. million people people in this gaza strip, one of the most concentrated in the areas. there will be plenty of casualties. they say in the face of tactics the idf will continue in its unprecedented efforts to limit civilian harm. there will also be israeli casualties and the public is gearing up for that. is rah israeli casualties. one israeli has died in this operation. more than 200 palestinians have died you but i expect that number is going up you. the cabinet let by benjamin netanyahu, they have concluded that israel has to go in. and even as we speak,er they re probably on the ground. do we have a time table are are? we know they have been amassing troops along the board border. the statements says along the strip. they have already moved in. let s see how quickly those tanks, armor personnel carriers. i ve been here a week, maybe more, anderson. the races israelis have no desire to reoccupy the strip. they have gave up the gaza strip. they want to destroy as much of hamas military capability as they can. and then leave, basically. and try to crush as much of hamas as they possibly can. that s the operation. that s goal. we ll see how that s achieve if in fact ifs achieved. but this represents a whole new venture. the israelis no longer striking from the air but how moving in as we speak right now, moving into gaza. in terms of rockets today or military action today, what s been going on, wolf? well, they had that temporary u.n.-sponsored truce that is humanitarian cease fire that they that both sides basically honored, but as soon as that was over, it was not only business as usual, are it was even more intense, more palestinian rockets and missiles coming into israel. the iron dome working to try to destroy those that jeopardized major cities or anything along those lines, sensitive areas if those missiles were going into some open area farmland or whatever, they wouldn t bother. it was going trds a populated is area, they would. the israelis upping the ante. we heard earlier in the day that it was the most intense israeli activity they had spotted over the past ten days. so clearly even in advance of word that the israelis have made a decision to go in on the ground, the situation had been heating up dramatically and so that s where we stand right now. i suspect diplomats from around the world will be trying to get some sort of cease fire. i also suspect the israelis will try to destroy as much of hamas s military capability in the coming hours and days as they can before there might be some sort of cease fire. so this represents a whole new chapter in this current crisis. wolf, do you have a sense of how prepared the idf is for an operation like this? i was embedded with idf forces i think it was 2006 going into southern lebanon and they ran into, you know, much more extreme circumstances than they had probably anticipated. i remember being on a mission that was supposed to be two hours ended up being some 14 or 15 hours, ves slow going, very difficult operation, a lot of booby traps and concern about ieds. is the idf ready for this? the idf, i think they re pretty aware of the potential for danger and they ve had some nasty, pretty ugly experiences. remember all the experiences in lebanon where israel went in thinking it was going to be relatively, relatively smooth, relatively quick and turned out to be much more difficult when they were fighting hezbollah in lebanon. a lot of us remember covering that encounter. the israelis eventually left. it was a major major problem for israel. it was not as easy as some of the military planners had assumed it was going to be. they go into this, military planners told me over the past few days with their eyes wide open. they know this is difficult terrain, heavily populated area. they ve appealed to the palestinians to evacuate, especially from the northern part of gaza. they said get out as quickly as you can. here s the problem though. there s not a whole lot of places those palestinians can go. they can go south to gaza city. that s not that safe either as we saw what happened to the four little boys on the beach in gaza city. so many palestinians have evacuated, have left and fled to other parts of gaza. they can t come into israel unless they have a foreign passport. they can t go into egypt and can t go on boats into the mediterranean because that is area has been blockaded as well as by the israelis. they re stuck there, those palestinians. unless they can find some safe place someplace else, there s going to be significant casualties. we re monitoring the situation. you see a live shot from the gaza city. obviously, wolf, tomorrow is friday. it s a day when many people go to mosque. it s a day of prayers. it will be interesting to see how that factors into the israeli operation on the ground. yeah. well, i suspect the fact that it s friday which is the muslim holy day, saturday the jewish sa bat, i suspect that s not going to be relevant right now. this is for all practical purposes, this is a war that s going on. and as much shoal i days are holy days, there s an operation that s under way, i suspect the israelis want to try to the achieve their military goals as quickly as they possibly can. as a result, the fact that it s friday, the fact that it s saturday or for christian sunday, i think that s going to be basically irrelevant right now. this is a new phase in this military operation and the israelis decided to move in. what they keep saying, by the way, anderson, the hamas has a lot of the blame themselves because when that will six hour egyptian brokered cease fire, the israelis honored it for six hours although hamas never kept firing missiles into israel at which point the israelis said if you don t want to do it that way, we ll continue to up the and thee. earlier today they had a few hours of respite. palestinians could get out of their homes, do shopping, prepare. the israelis are moving in. no more cease fires for now. let s see what the reaction is from the u.p. u.n., are from egypt which has been working very hard to achieve a cease-fire. let s see what the u.s., the obama administration is going to do. there are going to be a lot of hectic phone calls going on around the world right now. i want to the go the to ben wedeman in gaza city. i want to correct something i said regard diagnose the plane crash. i said today was are the anniversary of twa flight crashing off the coast of long island in 1996. i believe i said it was shot down. the government said it was a center fuel tank explosion though some people indicated they saw a rocket, there s no evidence of that. it was ruled to be a center fuel tank exexplosion. i apologize for misspeaking about that anniversary. ben wedeman joins us on the phone in gaza city. ben, what are you seeing, what are you hearing? what are your thoughts and any statement from hamas yet? reporter: yes, anderson. we actually just got the order to evacuate our hotel, which is on the gaza coast. that was after some fairly heavy bombardment of the gaza seaport by israeli boats offshore. and we are now headed away from the coastline. apparently that entire area is now unsafe. certainly what we ve seen this evening, anderson, is the most intense israeli bombardment i ve seen in the last ten days. tank fire, artillery fire, fire from ships at sea, air strikes, definitely sort along the entire border but actually focused on the northern part of gaza. but what we re seeing is just strikes from the far south, far north at the moment. andersoned? ben, you have been there before when there have been ground operations by israel. you ve seen what it s like. explain the difficulties, the dangers that lay ahead. well, the dangers are that as soon as israeli ground forces enter and they are very heavy little armed, there s a tendency for huge destruction of houses and huge loss of life. when i was here in 2009, their entire areas of gaza, of northern gaza that were utterly destroyed, house after house after house. and multiple examples of civilian casualties who people caught in the fighting. the problem is, and i think we ve stressed this time and time again on our air, that there s really no where to hide in gaza. the israelis have been sending out these robocalls, dropping leaflets, telling people to go to gaza city, for instance. as we ve seen time and time again, there s strike all over the place. so for instance, this afternoon, we saw an air strike on a building right next to our office three children were killed in that instance. and, of course, yesterday, there was that incidence where four people were killed in gaza city, not the outlying areas where people have been told to evacua evacuate. gaza is bracing for a very, very bad night tonight. and as we were waiting for our car to get us out of the area down by the coast it, ordinary people were coming up and saying what s going on, what s going on? should we take our children? should we go, should we flee? so there s a sort of air of panic. another thing, a lot of power is off in most of gaza city. those lucky enough to have generate sers have some light. for the most part, the city is pitch black. anderson? so it s nearly 11:00 at night there. are you seeing people on the street? where do people try to flee to? well, they try to flee inland away from it because clearly a lot of the focus of the bombardment has been on the coastline. so they try to move further inland to really the center of the city where they re hoping to be safe. but as i said, they re striking in the centers of the city, as well. we saw this afternoon. in fact, we had our cameras aimed on that house where the three children were kill this had afternoon because a warning shot had been fired. we focused our cameras and within ten minutes, that rocket hit the house. so there s really no where to go to, even though people know that will certain areas like the coastline, like any area near the israeli board ser dangerous. anderson? ben, are stay with us.
he s going to deliver remarks on the economy this afternoon. and then later, the president will address the congressional hispanic caucuses 37th annual . that will do it. morning joe from d.c. starts right now. how did this intruder get so far into the white house. don t they have guard dogs. there were officers and they were concerned that the dogs might attack them instead. [ laughter ] sounds strange but makes more sense when you fine occupant a lot of secret service agents are cats. [ laughter ] all right. good morning, everybody. it s thursday, october 2nd and with us on set in washington, d.c., boy it s great to be here. busy night last night. jeremy peters is here. good to have you. former white house press secretary for president obama robert gibbs. abc news political commentator and npr senior analyst cokie roberts and on capitol hill the host and managing editor of tv one s daily morning show, news now roland martin. we have a lot to talk about. cokie, i want to start with you. i was reading about the ebola virus and the gentleman that s in dallas how he contracted it. you know we ve been hearing people, come to the show there s no reason to be worried unless you exchange bodily fluids. you re thinking somebody has to spit in my face or have sex with them. this guy in texas got the disease carrying a pregnant woman by her legs helping a family member okay. they are yelling at me, we don t know that s how he got the disease. i read in the new york times that s one of the things he did. a brother of the woman, alex talking into my ear, a brother of the woman who was carrying her by the other leg i believe contracted the disease and died. we don t know we don t know. i don t want to say anything disgusting at 6:00 in the morning, but we don t know what her situation was. let s just put it that way. so from your i m just trying to figure this out. how hard it is to spread the disease? you have a lot of people who don t have washed hands and look at the situation. who are in a terrible, unsanitary situation. then it s much easier to spread the disease which is why you re seeing any of the medical teams covered up looking like they are in, you know, on the moon. if you look at the pictures in the new york times even as an example you get a sense of the conditions for the victims and people suffering from it, and i mean i just got an e-mail from the abc doctor who has been over there working with these kids and one of the kids he had followed died this morning and it s heartbreaking, and he said if that child were in america that child would be alive. really? that s what we re dealing with. we re dealing with totally gun prepared health systems. totally unsanitary situations. in many cases no water or clean water. right. so these are places we re capable of dealing it here. it doesn t mean we won t see it again. we can handle it. we have the infrastructure. the ability to quarantine somebody. and we have units for it. roland? except for one thing, if our hospitals are following the proper protocol. yesterday i talked to a medical doctor with the dallas morning news and one of the issues this hospital initially released him. then he goes back out and so now you hear him going through dallas, now being around school children as well so part of this is will american hospitals, how will they recognize it and follow the right protocols? that s a real issue right there because the hospital in dallas released him and he gone for three days. unbelievable. exactly. so, let s move on the top story and boy the washington post has been doing an extraordinary job. i mean you know you re doing a great job when the head of the secret service has to call the president of the united states because they know the post is about to tell him something. last time bill had to wake up hillary and say something will break in the newspaper. can you believe first of all can you believe she didn t tell the president of the united states there was a guy with a gun in the elevator? i m going rewind back 24 hours and i just am surprised that the white house, you know, appeared on our show today, gibbs maybe you can explain this to be. please explain to me how they could so vehemently defend. the morning josh earnest was on. we have to go to the video. and he was defiant. no we have total confidence in this director. and capture if you could based on our questions, i couldn t even think of another question to ask him because the conversation seemed so needlessly by the way, this is something, you can t talk to this because josh does. i once said this of mccain campaign person who lied to me the night before it was very obvious, i called the person up, okay, so let me ask you this. did you not think the sun was not going to rise the next morning? did you not think i wasn t going to have a tv show to tell everybody that you guys lied through your teeth to me. don t be stupid. josh didn t have to come on yesterday beating his chest when they already knew that she had lost confidence by not telling the president. members of the democratic party in the house of representatives were already saying she needed to go. right. losing confidence and resigning are two different things. right. i think josh would probably tell you right now he did not know that she was going resign. he did not know that s not the question. the question that mika asked and that s why this was a confusing response from him. you asked do you have confidence, does the president have confidence they can still protect the first family. why he would say yes. you almost wonder if he had spoken to the president about this at all. jeremy, the question is he may not have. that s a problem. but, roland we re going to go to you in a second but we ll run this clip and hopefully it has mika s mortified look. are your telling me this morning the president of the united states and the first lady have confidence in julia pierson to run an agency that s supposed to protect her two daughters. yes. for the reasons i laid out. these are men and women who wake up every day, professionals prepared to put their life i think the professionals actually deserve to have better leadership than they have. there s a responsibility she takes very seriously. i can tell the white house staff and the president takes this very seriously. the president has articulated he s concerned about the security around his family as any parent would be. okay. we don t have mika s face. i did ask four questions before joe asked that question. it was like that. what is this. so, roland, i don t know. that hurts his credibility moving forward. actually it doesn t. that s the only response they can give. you re talking about when you talk about protecting the president you also talk about conveying confidence to the american people. the president and josh earnest cannot come out and say well we really don t know so you have to project that even though behind-the-scenes you re going what the hell are you doing. you have no other choice but to do that. the person that must be saying that is michele obama. oh, my gosh. if i were she i would be so angry. my children are in there. honestly, our own houses are better protected. the elevator incident is perplexing because i ve been in plenty of elevators with the president. the only people in the elevator with the president are people that are either in the secret service or people that the secret service knows exactly who they are. as carol leigh said she pointed it out yesterday, wall street journal white house correspondent, it seems even more preposterous when we the media had to get there three hours beforehand, sit there. then they let this guy everybody amble on with a gun. that s what i m hearing from sources close to the spouse. julia pierson the director resigned yesterday telling bloomberg news in quote, i think it s in the best interest of the secret service and the american public if i step down. congress has lost confidence in my ability to run the agency. media has made it clear that this is what they expected. officials say i ll tell you what they say happened. president obama lost faith after learning he shared an elevator last month at the cdc with an armed man with a criminal record. pierson told obama only moments before it was reported. i can tell you the white house first learned of that incident yesterday afternoon shortly before it was reported by a news organization. she did not tell him about that or the agency did not tell the white house about that until he didn t know about it until yesterday. until shortly before it was reported publicly. that s correct. over the last several days we ve seen accumulating reports raising questions about the performance of the agency and the president concluded that new leadership of that agency was required. so, what we ve gotten from sources close to the white house and the secret service is that there were three options to replace the secret service director who was being removed. and it was an african-american, a man, and a woman. and they went with the woman because the optics would be good. that s number one. number two, the thing that really led to this resignation was not the white house fence jumper but it was the elevator. it was the elevator. she didn t bring that up to him when they first met about the fence jumper. so there s supposed to be, when the president is in a room, or a contained space there s a manifest and everybody in that space with the president is supposed to be on it. and this guy with a weapon and a record. and a record was on a elevator in the cdc with the president. shooting video. oh, my gosh. shooting video of the president. thank god he was just shooting video. i do think look, first of all, having worked with the secret service for four years, they were, i always was struck by the utmost professionalism. these are people that sign up to stand in front of the president if something goes horribly wrong. i know joe clancy. i think joe is a fabulous interim pick. i would not be surprised, my apologies to joe and his family if he doesn t get pushed and pulled to stay on as a more permanent director. i think joe is going to have a lot of confidence among the agents. but let s just pause for one second on the resignation. a security apparatus is literally, has to be strong every where. right? that s right. director pierson was not at the white house the day somebody who previously had been stopped at the white house, climbed the fence at the white house, ran through the grounds of the white house, got through the door of the white house, ran into the east room of the white house. so i think what we have to under i think joe s first responsibility is to look at there clearly were a series of security lapses that september 19th. you had two guys that were down on constitution avenue, who said there s gunfire and somebody said no, no, it was just backfire. and they said, no, there s a shooting. roland? i got to push back on that. first of all, she did not instill any confidence when she was before congress in that hearing. she couldn t give very clear and concise answers. i understand she wasn t there at the white house or in atlanta. the problem in atlanta was she had someone on the presidential detail stay back to do an investigation and then the post reported didn t report further investigation and didn t tell the president. not only did she fail as a leader. had she appeared before congress and been more forthright, more focused, more disciplined, more clear folks would have seen okay she has to hand tell situation. but not tell the president? that was it. i don t disagree i m certainly not here to say i don t think she shouldn t have resign. i think she should have resigned two weeks ago or somebody should have made her resign two weeks ago. i m suggesting joe s first job as interim director is to figure out what went wrong in 2011, what went wrong a few weeks ago. let s be clear. you know, testified at the hearing that people observed this man again who had been stopped in august with a hatchet, small axe, on the south lawn. people observed him, recognized him, watched him for a while and notify anybody. that, again, i agree that there has to be and should be a change in leadership, but, again, this is somebody needs to be my dad told a story last night at ciss. when he first got his job. he said what about this threat that we re facing. we need to make sure the president can get out of here. we can get him out of here in two minute. really? let s do it. right now. he called everyone on it. everybody had to rally and the chopper had to get in place. took them much longer than they thought. he did a drill completely unexpectedly. they put three-foot fences up. i start doing drills. catch people with their pants down right and left and fire them and figure it out. i was struck by the fact in the hearing, 116 people over the past five years have climbed the fence. now, i m not a security expert and i m not trying to be flip but the first thing i would do is build a bigger fence. let s get jeremy in here. my colleague did some reporting on this and found the fence is actually a historic artifact. so you can t tear it down. could you. but it would be problematic to tear it down. the secret service s culpability here is clear. but what about the white house s handling of this. robert you could speak to the fact. this doesn t look to be the most adept crisis management. they are leaking things how this woman wasn t their first choice. doesn t seem very professional. you have to live with the choice you make. i think this and one of the things in josh s defense all too often and i was in some of these meetings and i did some of these meetings specifically with joe. there s a small circle of people that will get read into the security moments of a president for obvious reasons and josh may just not have known exactly what was happening at certain points with some of the security moments. that doesn t mean josh is uninformed by any means. i think if you look back at this, what, to read the story on saturday night or sunday morning about what happened with the shooting, to understand that we didn t know how far that person got into the white house until the eve of the shooting, it s incumbent upon the secret service and josh said this in the briefing. he lied to us about it too. josh said this, think got to be much more transparent not in the way that compromises security don t need to lie. start there. this morning s the washington post also mika has more details. it does about julia pierson s time in charge of the security service. staffing shortages under her watch and it called for 100 surveillance office towers patrol the would you say. she urged for far fewer. pierson honored a request from d.c. mayor to open up a street near benjamin netanyahu s hotel. the mayor had traffic concerns even though the street had been closed for years to prevent a possible attack. and removed fencing when the president hosted the france s summit this year. pierson who worked at a costume character at disney world as a teen said we need be more like disney world. she didn t say that. no. i think they are making it up. look. it is true sometimes the security drives you completely nuts and there s been a lot of overreaction in washington shutting down pennsylvania avenue and all that. which shows you, shutting down pennsylvania avenue only do we need to be like have you ever been to disney world. of course i have. many times. i was there once and left immediately. okay. stop. i m sorry. we ll be on pennsylvania avenue later today. she had a 30 year service with the secret service. so it s not quite fair to talk about what she did as at that teenager. but the fact is that this was a major, major failure. all right. but we shouldn t react by closing down washington. we got a lot coming up including i want to talk to cokie about two polls coming in. one from kansas, pat roberts an independent may actually beat pat roberts and out of wisconsin yesterday we were talking about scott walker new poll comes out shows him moving ahead in wisconsin. a lot to talk about and more cross currents. pretty incredible. okay. in different parts of the country parties are doing differently. still ahead senator bernie sanders says the u.s. is wrong to go after isis in the 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geostrategy. he spoke and had a wonderful time actually able to make it to both events. that was wonderful. i m not sure how to keep up with these two. you re a very lucky woman. you walk into the brzezinski institute and you go in and he goes welcome. i walk in and there must be a detector. you know you are stunningly really wonderful dinner. i m glad we were there for a few minutes. so now let s take a look at the morning papers. we have thomas in new york as well for that but we ll start thomas with st. louis, the st. louis dispatch. prosecutors from st. louis are investigating allegations of misconduct in the grand jury investigation into the death of michael brown. a twitter user claimed to have inside knowledge into the case saying quote, i know someone sitting on the grand jury of this case. there isn t enough at this point to warrant an arrest. the post and twitter account were deleted. the graj has been weighing evidence in the case since august 20th. if there was a breach the entire process would have to start over. thomas. on a lighter note we look at usa today and they are talking about mcdonald s launching a new menu item as the fast food wars are heating up in japan. this is in honor of halloween. they are going to be selling a limited edition of black burger. it s no match for the burger king version. look at the side-by-sides here. it s the all-black once. cheese and special squid ink sauce. the mcdonald burger sports a bun dyed black but keeps the yellow cheese. it s like green beer on st. patrick s day. still no word if the burgers will come to the u.s. if they do we ll have a morning joe eat off contest right here on the set. that would be the worst japanese invasion since pearl harbor. keep your burgers over there. i want to see them in person. up close. why? from the l.a. times netflix has signed a deal with adam sadler. he ll problem ducing and starring in four films exclusively for the streaming site. the first movie can arrive as early as next year. thomas it s something netflix has really gotten into the original content business. being a great. mika has been asking for a happy gilmore ii and happy gilmore iii. richard branson has given his personal staff 200 people unlimited vacation days. the chairman and founder of virgin group said the staff is free to take off whenever they lining, for as long as they want and they don t need to get manager approval. this was a idea inspired by netflix. but if the policy is successful, then sir richard will encourage the company s subsidiaries to adopt that policy as well. i can t imagine it not being successful. i ll apply today. is there a virgin tv group? i think that s i think that s innovative. i think they will get higher productivity. i think it could be counter intuitive. if you hire the right people obviously that will work. there was a guy that i know runs creative shop somewhere who understands he s got some very creative people there and sometimes he ll say take a month off. he says he knows that when they come back from the month, they are just going to be like animals that were caged that come out and will just work. be interesting to see if these people do take time off. they probably would be scared to. if i leave the office what will happen. mika, that s obviously why i never take time off. we ve been talking about the ebola outbreak in west africa and confirmation the virus has jumped to america. joining us now time magazine s health editor. it takes a look what the virus is doing in west africa and potential damage here in the u.s. thanks for being on. i guess let s go to the question that comes to everybody s mind. the conditions, obviously, in areas in west africa are horrific and lead to the virus spreading. are we certain, though, about containment here in the u.s.? can we say we won t see x amount cases? we can t say we won t see any more cases, but the thing about ebola that s important to realize is that we actually do know how to contain the virus. there s a very straightforward protocol and given the resources that we have and the resource like a country with the u.s. with a great health care system we can contain this case, no question. he s in isolation, contact tracing is the best practice which means going out over tory single person he contact with and monitoring them for 21 days as well and in the hands of the cdc this can be contained. front page of the the washington post though talks about ebola misstep in texas. do you think the mistake of the texas hospital is probably going to change the game for other hospitals arose the u.s.? i m glad you brought that up and i think it sounds the alarm. first and absolute most important thing is that a patient be in isolation as soon as possible. so it was a misstep. there s no getting around that. hopefully that won t happen the next time someone shows up with symptoms of ebola. five people an hour in sierra leone contracting the disease. so it s really it s spreading like crazy. you know, one of the really sad things africa was doing pretty well. there was a lot of good news coming out of africa. and now this has setback those countries for a generation. the story i told earlier this morning robert that i read in the new york times and everybody jumped on me, here i am trying to embrace your newspaper and everybody acting like i crawled out of a sewer drunk. but in that story you had this poor woman, this 19-year-old pregnant woman has ebola, she s rushed to a hospital there and they turn her away and she goes home, seven months pregnant and dies at home a few hours later. there s just an infrastructure problem. absolutely. i think the answer in some ways to mika s question how do we not have it spread here is we got to have a surge in that west africa it s not generated here unless you come in to contact with somebody that has it. that person came from west africa. that s obviously where this has started. it s where it has blossomed. it s the only place that we that s the place where we have to correct it. we are. when the u.s. military is setting up a hospital there. the usaid is sending in a lot of money and other organizations like save the children are going in. thank you so much. the new time cover chasing ebola. thank you very much. coming up did julia pierson do the right thing by stepping down. we ll talk to the former director of the secret service in his first interview since testifying on capitol hill. plus we ll check in on what the top columnists are writing today in the morning s top opinion pages. that s next on morning joe. 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we re tactician, alas the extremists may be better strategists. the wall street journal, what s at stake in hong kong. this is a big story happening right now. the desire for self-government is natural when a society becomes as of a fluent as hong kong. but talk to the protesters and another theme emerges. saving the qualities that make their city unique. they want democracy as a bull wark against the influx of mainland authoritarian values with their understanding that democracy is both about political choice and moral values. the people of hong kong are today in the vanguard of the global fight for freedom. doesn t look like there s much give, cokie. if you look at the editorial on the front page of the paper today, the communist paper. they are not backing down. no. i mean sort of scary to think what happens next. the protesters are saying they are going to occupy government buildings, and when that starts to happen you know what, it s 1965 and you ll take over the columbia professor s office that s one thing. i don t think that s going to go over too well in hong kong. people in the reports, people from the mainland who have come and seen what s going on in hong kong can t believe it. if this were happening at home we would be dead. the china, though, at the same time are facing much more complex situation aren t they in 2014 than they were in 1989. sure. they cannot respond the way they responded at tiananmen square. let s see what happens next then. because if they don t respond that way what do they do? this is 150,000 people. gloets to your story today in the hill. more plane cancelations coming before the elections. nearly 50,000 people are going to lose their current health coverage in the coming weeks and you talk about the political consequences before the mid-term elections. that s right. we re wondering whether this will move the needle in tough races. there are probably about 14,000 planned cancelations coming in kentucky. about 50,000 across the country, maybe more. some of these are the result of the president s health care law, some are just natural upheaval in the individual market. but i think the fascinating thing is that republicans aren t jumping on this issue the way they promised to a we re ago because obamacare has receded as a political issue at this point. roland, is this baked in to the cake already, though, for republicans and democrats and independents or could this have a significant impact as we move closer to the election. in terms of the affordable care act absolutely not the president has been running victory laps. for republicans you back away from it. the real issue for them i think moving forward is look a lot of democrats have had self-inflicted wounds and so you re really allowing them to be on the defensive while you go on the offensive and so republicans the numbers are there for them. democrats right now are freaking out when it comes to black turnout for arkansas, north carolina as well as louisiana, republicans are saying unless they get massive turnout which isn t the case in mid-terms they think they can take those three seats and so for them you don t just add more fuel to the fire you say you know what? you got it. we ll leave it alone. our numbers look too good to take back the senate. jeremy. one of the things i m hearing this has been demoralizing for republicans. they want to see their candidates fighting on obamacare and they are not. i m wondering, your getting a sense that that may change? no. in fact we re not expecting to it change prior to election day. we expect gop to broaden its message given roughly a year ago we were thinking this entire election would hinge on obamacare. things can happen so quickly and clearly the party doesn t see it as the winning issue as it used to. the ads are all about isis. and since the national security is going to be a good issue for them. that s probably true. it almost seems like another time to see an ad about obamacare at this time. like an old ad rerun by the state. not that it won t have an impact, it clearly well but it s baked in. you can t touch it anyway because you have republican governors who are cutting deals. kasich in ohio. the problem is you have republican governors realize field goal i don t expand medicaid i m screwed with health care so if you go against i want you ll get your own party and you need them the ground operations in those states to win the senate seat. yep. thank you very much. roland martin thank you as well. up next is a change of leadership the only change the secret service needs? 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[ laughter ] with us now we got former secret service director ralph basham. ralph you testified the other day and also you spoke to director pierson after her testimony. obviously very deflated, right? you know, sitting there for almost four hours, and during what i called a sort of a feeding frenzy and clearly there was a lot of red meat to go around. to feed on. exactly. no. it was a very, very stressful, both emotionally and physically. a lot of bad things have happened over the past several months that all can t be put on her shoulders. so what s happened to the culture of the secret service over the past five or six years well, first of all, i don t believe that the secret service has a problem to the depth of some of so-called security experts are saying. any organization that is challenged like secret service is on a day-to-day basis, they are going to have these challenges. they are going to have problems. and with all due respect, i think some of the thing that we re highlighting i understand the feeding friendy aspect. i definitely understand even, you know, the media kind of jumping on it. come on. someone in an swraert the president with a weapon who is not on the manifest. who has a record. who has a record. there s no question, there s no excuse for that. that was a clear failure. if you were in charge and that happened on your watch well, i would take appropriate disciplinary action there. someone did not do their job. someone did not go to the, follow the protocols. were you surprised at all? when you found there was somebody in the east room of the white house, when you heard that there were bullet holes in the glass in the white house, i mean did you say what s going on there? i think that it was a catastrophic failure on the 19th of september. the director pierson has said that. i ve said that. and clearly there was a huge breakdown there. and they need to get to the bottom of this and get to the bottom of this quickly. let s ask you about that. we talked earlier about the drills my dad had right when he got in the office. i keep hearing we re going to get to the bottom of this and do investigations. right now what should be happening in the secret service to make sure nothing like this ever happens again? i think that what they are doing right now. they are increasing look when you have the white house sitting in down opportune an urban area with a pickett fence, literally a pickett fence separating the public from 84, i think 80 yards to the front door of the white house, and we allow individuals access to that street and sidewalk, this individual got over that fence, into the white house in 29 seconds. 29 seconds. that s just unacceptable. but i m not making an excuse. they should have taken that individual down. they should have released the dogs. been shot? no, i don t agree with that. i do not agree with that. you want to make policy. i want to understand what taking him down. thank you so much. we greatly appreciate it. i want to know more. up next this secret service mess says something about the president s leadership? that debate ahead. plus another tense exchange between u.s. and israeli officials, andrea mitchell joins us with benjamin netanyahu s response. thank you very much. thank you, ralph. i m alex trebek. if you re age 50 to 85, i have an important message about security. write down the number on your screen, so you can call when i finish. the lock i want to talk to you about isn t the one on your door. this is a lock for your life insurance, a rate lock, that guarantees your rate can never go up at any time, for any reason. but be careful. many policies you see do not have one, but you can get a lifetime rate lock through the colonial penn program. call this number to learn more. this plan was designed with a rate lock for people on a fixed income who want affordable life insurance that s simple to get. coverage options for just $9.95 a month, less than 35 cents a day. act now and your rate will be locked in for life. it will never increase, guaranteed. this is lifelong coverage that can never be cancelled as long as you pay your premiums, guaranteed. and your acceptance is guaranteed, with no health questions. you cannot be turned down because of your health. call for your information kit and read about this rate lock for yourself. you ll also get a free gift with great information if you re retired or will be soon. both are free, with no obligation, so don t miss out. call for information, then decide. read about the 30 day, 100 percent money back guarantee. don t wait, call this number now.
this is beyond the pale. and i listened to your testimony very deliberately here this morning. and i wish to god you, you protected the white house like you re protecting your reputation here today. the secret service against one individual with mental illness. and you lost. you lost. and you had three shots at this guy. congressman steven lynch earlier this week fired off about julia pierson s testimony about a string of secret service breaches. congressman lynch is joining us from boston and hear in washington, congressman jack kingston. jarks let s start with you. the white house hired this woman for optics after the prosecution scandal. that s what some are saying. that s what our contacts are saying. secret service and also inside the white house. did they get what they deferred? i think there s a big question about that because i do think that she did not have the background that was needed to run the entire agency. she had a good career but probably post-9/11 absolutely no protection. no experience with protective services and you can t play around with this. you had the situation in colombia and that was a public relations disaster but one of the statements that she was famous for making was that the secret service needed to resemble disneyland more. that s not the case at all. we want these folks to be tough, we want them to be unmerciful, we want them to protect the president and his family and visitingdignitaries. i m not sure of the context of that. steven lynch, do you agree? the white house got what they wanted. they looked at the frat boy nature, the prostitute issue down in colombia and they brought in someone who was opposite of that behavior. the security issue was secondary i think. so, jack, where do we go next? what do we need to do next to make sure this doesn t happen again. what chairman mccall and john boehner talked about is having a blue ribbon commission to figure out what to do. this wasn t the only time. i had an experience getting on the elevator by mistake with president bush. that alone should have been a big question. how does that happen by accident, somebody with a record getting on an elevator. with a weapon. so should be easy for us to blame director pierson but obviously we ve had one mistake after another after another after another. isn t there a much bigger culture problem here? that actually might encourage terrorists across the world to take a shot at the president? i think so. i think so. i think we need to start at the very beginning. we need to look at what we re doing in georgia and we got to make sure that what we re training our agents for today is really the reality on the ground. i think in some sense the secret service may be fighting the last war, and we need to make sure that they are war gaming all these possibilities with terrorist groups looking at the white house, especially, you know, they must being a greatly encouraged now because we had one mentally ill gentleman able to get in the green room. so if this was a nefarious group with resources and a plan things could have gone much, much worse. let me say this. you mentioned the federal law enforcement training center in brunswick, georgia which is in my district. i m very familiar with it. they do a great job. there were five rings of security that were breached in this case. the secret service did not shut down the room, they did not lock it down, if you will, they did not raise threat level, there was an alarm that apparently had been put on mute. all the training in the world, you know, they were trained to do that. they did not follow their own protocol. they ignored it. jack, thank you. thank you both. still ahead, a patient shows up at a dallas hospital complaining of fever and abdominal pain. said he just traveled from africa. the hospital sends him home. there are some serious concerns about how ready the u.s. is to hand tell ebola virus. we re going to talk to the nih s top expert on infectious 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couldn t talk about it. i think i just gave a long answer to it. what i won t be in a position to talk about are the details and security protocols in place. your telling me this morning the president of the united states and first lady have confidence in julia pierson to run an agency that s suppose freezing drizzle text her two daughters yes, joe, they have confidence in them for the reasons i laid out. these are men and women who wake up every day, professionals prepared to put their lives i m not talking about professionals. i think the professionals deserve to have better leadership than they have. welcome back to morning joe. you have the worst poker face in the history of television. no. my face says what i m thinking. okay. i m sorry, josh earnest, i actually was trying to visit him today. i don t think he ll have me. you can walk in. i don t understand it s so funny. we were trying to get in here this morning and we had trouble get through the gate. somebody said it s, you know, it s easier to get in the white house. that s the new sort of fly. who said that. i m not sure why they so vehemently defended julia pierson. the events speak for themselves. i m not even sure why she didn t resign before the hearing. i don t get it. people say that oh, you know, josh had to say what he had to say. he didn t. there are a thousand different ways to say that. trust me, i can recall many times in which you re the pith of the sphere and you know something will be different in five hours. but you re there. a event jumper, i m asking you, is the president safe and are there going changes in the secret service? what s your answer. is it like that? here s the question. i think the president of course the president is safe. have there been breakdowns. absolutely. let s be clear. they are standing out in front of the white house right,000. if we don t think they are safe somebody should call the national guard. ron, you worked in the white house. hold on. i m not defending the director. i think the director resigned appropriately. as i said last hour it would have been appropriate if she resigned two weeks ago. i think the press secretary gets put in awkward positions where they don t have all the answers. that s the job. is there a better way? you have grilled. yeah. i ve been there. i can see the wheels moving. there are ways to do it without just there are. but the real issue here is, obviously, it is the president s security and people who work in the white house are they secure. are the children secure? really this is symptomatic we re having at our government institutions and social institutions where it s built for another time and we have to look at things more than at that director. we have to look at things should they come out of dhs. maybe we should promote people up the ranks. maybe they should focus just on security. andrea, you said back to treasury. after 9/11 everything changed. they created this mega, not just homeland, but 16 intelligence agencies. ask anyone in intelligence and you know a lot of folks there where they are having a dni is a director of national intelligence is better than when the cia was the standalone operation and reported directly. it is insane. there have been things that happened with the post-9/11 reorganization. their first job is counterterrorism. the day the president was killed. i m just saying. 24 hours ago what is wrong with saying these are serious breaches, they are being taken seriously, there will be serious consequences and you can be sure this will never happen again. he did say a lot of that. look no. no, he really didn t. he went through the fact that they are looking into you guys have an association where you guys drink beer at the end of the day. they have i like them. the reason they drink beer what you don t see in that is his feet are tap dancing. there s a lot of times you re not given the lot and i don t know how many times i would go in the meetings and they said it would be good if you didn t get that question today. guess what? this is leadership. i m sorry, i don t know julia pierson. she sat there. i could have testified to congress and had a worst brief and been more effective than she was. you know what john mccain said to me yesterday, he said andrea we ve seen this movie before. she s going to be gone. when you ve lost someone like congressman cummings and we respect her on the both sides of the aisle you lost her. congress pulled them out of treasury and put them into this monstrosity. we should do oversight? what a concept. we have a lot of things to talk about. i see you re wearing the detroit tigers tie. we have the nats. the game two nights ago where the royals came back. i can t believe they came back and beat the a s. last night the giants obliterated the steelers. last night this is just a heartbreaking picture on the front page of the new york times. and we ask why ebola is spreading as quickly as it s spreading. here is here are two young girls in the foreground, a 4-year-old girl who they think had ebola. and talk about bodily fluid, there s human excrement on these floors where children are lying. here the washington post where a little girl s mother died from ebola and she s in isolation. the conditions, obviously cater to it spreading. conditions are miserable. a lot of questions being asked this morning about the dallas hospital that sent a guy away who was throwing up, who had a fever and said i just came from liberia. that seems like maybe a misstep. let s move on. the spread of ebola in america so far has been limited to one man. this morning there are concerns over possible new case. a patient in hawaii has been placed in isolation after showing symptoms consistent with the virus. though it s not confirmed. in texas health officials are monitoring a second person who had been in close contact with duncan, five children are being kept home from dallas area schools and watched carefully and yesterday parents of other students in those districts plugged their kids from school to have them tested. meanwhile health officials are scrutinizing dallas s hospital s response to that case. duncan tried to get help on september 26th complaining of fever and abdominal pain after returning from west africa. his travel information was overlooked and he was sent home with a diagnosis of a simple mild fever. his nephew says it wasn t until they called the cdc two days later that duncan was treated appropriately. he s in our prayers, and we are really praying for him. he ll have a lot of work to do when he gets out and everybody is praying and rooting for him. i know the whole nation is rooting for him. regretfully that information was not fully communicated throughout the full team and as a result the full import of that information wasn t factored into the clinical decision-making. now health officials are tracing who duncan came in contact with. at least ten people. he departed monrovia. days before duncan left liberia he reportedly helped an intented pregnant woman carrying her by the legs to a cab to get her to a hospital but she was turned away for lack of space and later died. the story also says her brother, pregnant woman s brother also helped carry her i think by the other leg. and he s passed away as well. just think about how bad the situation might be if this man, if mr. duncan hadn t picked up the phone and called the cdc. we were just saying but he did it, thank goodness, and he was the responsible party here. but hospitals have absolutely. a direct responsibility. i think they all have the message. i would be very surprised if this happens again. from bethesda, maryland, we have the director of noogs institute of allergies and infectious disease, dr. anthony fauci. so, doctor, thank you for being with us. can we be assured that hospitals in their home towns will ask all the right questions, and act appropriately moving forward in the way this dallas hospital did not well, i hope so. i think this will certainly serve for the rest of the country as a very cogent lesson learned. the cdc over the last several weeks to months have been really putting out the message that when people come in with symptoms that are compatible with ebola it s important to ask for a travel history and factor that in to what your decision is. unfortunately that didn t happen in this case. i think we need to put that behind us and look ahead to make sure that in the future this doesn t happen again. andrea mitchell is here and has a question. dr. fauci, you ve made the point and i think it s important to emphasize that it is containable in our society, unlike these horrific pictures of children on the streets in liberia. tell us, again, about how difficult it is to catch this, given our own experiences here in america. well, its important for the public to understand that. we have said for some time now it s certainly feasible and it s happened to prove the feasibility somebody will get on a plane in a west african country, being infected with no symptoms, have no symptoms, come here, land in the states and wine up appearing at an emergency room. that s exactly what happened. the important thing is when you re not symptomatic, when you don t have any symptoms history shows us it s not transmitted that way. so when the person was walking around not only when he was on the plane but even for the four days from the 20th of september to the 24th when he had no symptoms, that is a situation where it s not transmitted. however, when he became symptomatic people who came into contact with bodily fluids such as when they get sick, some vomit, some bleed, that s the risk. the reason i m saying there won t be an outbreak here. there maybe another case. may be one of those contabts that that person came into contact at actually will get infected ultimately. what the cdc does and they do it very well is what is called contact tracing. which means you take everybody that that person came into contact with. you identify them and monitor them for 21 days. let s go to cokie roberts. that s what s happening in dallas. the airplane you say. there s no need to get all those people that were on that airplane. no, there s not. because the person was clearly without symptoms. not only on the airplane. but for four days after he got off the airplane. then the history so that s not a rob. cokie wants to know if she has to worry about going to dulles airport. i don t think there s a problem with dulles airport. you ve never been to dulles airport. all right. thank you so much, doctor. doctor, before you leave, i want to ask you one other question. ? enterovirus a lot of little kids getting this mystery illness. and we now hear that four have died. i got a young boy that has asthma. and obviously i m concerned. a lot of parents are concerned about this mystery disease. what can you tell us? well, it s important if you have a child that has asthma because first of all this is really quite an explosion. there have now been more than 40 states that have had this outbreak of this enterovirus d 68. it s a particularly nasty virus particularly in children who have a predisposition to asthma because it with cause respiratory distress to children. so we got to be careful and that s reason why we say have children wash their hands as much as possible. stay away from kids who clearly have a respiratory illness. and if the child is sick make sure the child does not go to school. that s probably the best thing to do. 40 states? 41 states at least. all right. thank you so much, doctor. greatly appreciate it. we ll be right back. you guys stick around if you can. andrea stay with us. still ahead on morning joe much more independent outspoken senator bernie sanders joins us in the next hour. i want to talk about how another independent from kansas may be joining him very soon. plus a marine trapped in mexico. new hope for a release 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conspiracy. new charges include burglary and attempted burglary. kelly who is an aspiring political blogger and supporter of chris mcdaniel remains free on bail. we look at this one from the new york post. top hollywood attorney is threatening to file a million dollar lawsuit against google over the celebrity hacking scandal involving nude pictures. the lawyer who represents famous clients says google is making millions from the victimization of women claiming the images are still online weeks after they went public and he s demanding the public immediately remove those photos. even comparing the site s response to how the nfl dealt with the ray rice controversy. still up? they are still up. i thought they would be down by now, mika. go ahead, thomas. some people saw it. can i ask you a question, because, you know, we got a detroit tiger fan here. i m sure he would love to know if the naked pictures of their star pitcher is still up. that s beside the point. they will beat the orioles. they will not beat the orioles. i have no comment on naked pictures. they will not beat the orioles. they will not beat the orioles. okay. your mom didn t want jesse severe la verlander to do that either. move on. the orioles will win. anyway. yes. a lot of little boys out there want to be just like their dads and 8-month-old hadley is no different. take a look at this little guy. he s going to be the hulk. paint him green, he s the hulk. how funny is that? that s so cute. so cute. that s a good one. i like it. coming up that was a lot of fun. you know what was not fun? interviewing netanyahu. andrea mitchell s exclusive interview with israeli prime minister coming up. my gosh, we ll talk about a contentious set of events that led up to that interview. more morning joe straight ahead. i m alex trebek. if you re age 50 to 85, i have an important message about security. write down the number on your screen, so you can call when i finish. the lock i want to talk to you about isn t the one 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announcement that you actually had josh earnest and jim talking going out and actually attacking the prime minister right after he left. it wasn t ugly in the meeting. it was tense and awkward. then it got ugly as soon as he left. it was one of those hand shakes they are staring at each other in the eye. then they do the pump. i timed it. maybe 2.1 seconds. that s what it was. nice rounding it. they said what had to be said about the very special relationship and all that and you can see that obama was tip toeing. he s like don t let this guy blow like right here in the oval office like he did previously. you dating somebody in college you want to get out of the restaurant before the explosion happens. obama with his leg crossed. the president did say that the status quo is not acceptable in the peace talks. gently. could you see what was coming. hours after the meeting the white house condemned what happened over in israel. israel s plans for new housing projects in east jerusalem calling it a provocative act. that toledo a stern response from the prime minister in an interview with our own andrea mitchell. you had a meeting with the president and white house and state department say that the new settlements in east jerusalem undercut your commitment to peace. that it could poison the atmosphere. it could turn the world against you. what is your response to that when the president says that to you? i think you should be aquainted with the facts. first these are not settlements these are neighborhoods of jerusalem. we have arab neighborhoods and jewish neighborhoods. when you walk out of the white house and two hours later the white house press secretary and state department spokeswoman both slam israel, talk about poison. how does that make you feel? it doesn t make me feel good. i think the important thing is to get the facts right. i mean start with the facts. you think president obama has the facts wrong? we didn t discuss it. i have to tell you. there was a generic statement. we didn t get into these specific instances. all right. andrea mitchell, where do we go from here and talk about iran if you could as well. the relationship is just so fraught. during the whole gaza war the president was getting angrier and angrier. we overheard john kerry say that s some pell of a pinpoint operation after the u.n. shelter was bombed. so they are coming it s mars and venus. there s no coming together. and netanyahu is trying to cover it up and say, well, we didn t discuss it but clearly it s out there, and on iran they have completely different views about iran. he says iran is isis, isis is iran, he dismisses rouhani has no power. what s the military option you ll take them out. he said well i don t deal with that. i said you re the one that does deal with that. he said we just reserve our options. what does he want? everybody would say they want peace, right? who? all the players in the game here. all the players. yeah. they have different definitions. they have different definitions. obviously, dana, as you look through this and you read your article and you watch the interview, you wonder how the united states can be a broker if the president s own people are going out and condemning israel for this. this administration has given up on that idea. when your secretary of state is accused by israel of launching a strategic terrorist attack on them, each administration in the past few started out saying okay we re the guys, we ll solve this problem and nobody has for decades. they enter it, it looks promising for five minutes and then the whole thing deteriorates. that s why hill ray stayed out of it. we re back where we are. ron, you re obviously covering the bush white house for a while. the bush white house from the beginning and i actually agreed with them, they said we ll get involved in a peace process when both sides actually act like they want to be involved in a peace process. same thing with hillary clinton. and you just wonder if that isn t the stance the united states should make because if you go chasing after peace like john kerry did, and, you know, maybe that was a good earnest thing to do, this ends up. i think the bush white house and hillary clinton learned a little bit from bill clinton who did chase peace and it didn t turn out very well in the end. it s a tough issue. i wonder if israel if you know, you can see what they are doing in the short term. we really have to protect our security and play to our domestic concerns. long term do they understand how look at these polls that show how young people in the world view israel. it s a long range post-arab spring what netanyahu said to the u.n., to the president and to me yesterday is that the arab leaders, the saudis and egypt are closer to him and now are willing to help support a peace agreement that they have these new arab allies. if that s the case you sit here and wonder. because i believe that is the case. but if that s the 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ways to help companies simplify the way work gets done and life gets lived. with xerox, you re ready for real business. welcome back, everybody. there s some breaking news we want to get on fasht diagnosed with ebola in texas. state officials telling several members of that patient s family not to leave their homes. nbc s kate snow is joining us live now outside of the hospital where the patient is being treated. kate, update us on the information that s now being imparted to this patient s family. reporter: right. good morning. a couple new details. one is that four members of the family are being told to stay home out of an abundance of caution because they may have been exposed to ebola. the other piece of information we just learned moments ago is that 80 people, 8-0 people were at some point in contact with this patient. that s a much bigger number than we had previously been told. so dallas health officials telling us that they are in touch with and looking into how 80 people had contact with this patient. again, trying to track down anyone who may have come in to contact to try to contain this disease. the dallas independent school district is telling parents send your kids to school, everything is safe but i can tell you a lot of parents are nervous this morning, not planning to send their kids to school. in an exclusive interview we did with the nephew of the patient said hospital personnel put people at risk by not taking this case seriously enough. he s doing all right. he s a fighter. he s still fighting. reporter: this morning the nephew of 42-year-old thomas eric duncan is making explosive new allegations accusing texas health presbyterian hospital of dallas not taking the ebola threat seriously. when duncan walked into the er last friday he told the nurse he came from liberia. that information was not fully communicated. reporter: he was sent home with antibiotics. by sunday ambulance took him to the same hospital. doctors still weren t treating dunn condition like a potential ebola patient. the nephew said he called centers for disease control himself. i called cdc again, some action was taken because i was concerned for his life. and he wasn t getting appropriate care. and i was fearing i feared other people might, you know, also get infected if he wasn t taken care of. reporter: we now know duncan traveled from liberia to brussels to dulles airport in washington, d.c. to dallas. one he fell sick he came into contact with up to 18 people. the only lose contact we re aware of this patient is with his immediate children. and his wife. and so now we re looking at close friends. reporter: on wednesday the school district sent letters to parents telling them five students are now being monitored because they may have had contact with duncan. they were in school earlier this week. do you know when they started staying home from school? today. you got to remember if the children have not shown any symptoms and the only way this transmission happened is when you are showing the symptoms. reporter: their classmates are safe their classmates are safe. reporter: parents rushed to take their children home early. i started crying. i was hysterical. i just wanted to get to my kids. so i went and got them and i feel much better when i got them. reporter: we reached out to the hospital for a statement. we reached out the state health department and so far have not had any response to the nephew s allegations. kate snow reporting there outside of the hospital there in texas where this patient is being treated. again, a big update there from kate and being informed about the family who is being told to stay at home. 80 people may have been exposed to this man during that 72 hour window of time where he was let loose from the hospital out of their care before coming back. is this an overreaction? i don t blame anybody at this point. at this point the hospitals can t overreact. at this point the hospitals when somebody comes in, they have conditions, traveled recently from africa, at that point you call the cdc and you start moving quickly. 80 people now possibly exposed because of the mistake of a hospital. i don t say that to knock the hospital. i say that to warn every other hospital in america we re in dangerous times if this isn t taken care of. if you ve ever been there everybody is doing everything they can. it s trying to stop the dike. the right protocols in place. and they know to ask the right questions and when you have the right answers or the wrong answers to those questions. every hospital worker must know. you immediately move on it. it s not rocketcy pennsylvania. lawmakers are optimistic a marine veteran detained by mexican authorities since march 31st will be released to u.s. officials in the coming weeks. sergeant andrew tahmooressi has spent the last six months in a prison in mexico after making a wrong turn in southern california and accidentally crossing the border. but in his truck, which was packed with everything he owned, there were three guns and several rounds of ammunition. although the weapons were registered in the u.s., tahmooressi now faces charges in mexico. yesterday his mother recalled the days of her son s arrest during testimony on capitol hill. march 31st, sorry, 11:25 this year, mom, i got lost. i made a wrong turn. i am at the mexican border. you need to know this because i ve been surrounded by military. in case anything happens to me i need to let you know where i am. the following morning, april 1st, 2014, mom, i ve been arrested. please secure me an attorney. april 5th, mom, i m not going to make it through the night. whatever you do do not come down here to investigate. do not come down here to ask questions. you will be killed as well. i need you to go underground. i need you to cancel your bank accounts. let the broward sheriff s office know. i m not going to make it through the night. mom, don t come down to investigate. earlier this week two psychiatrists told a judge that tahmooressi suffers from ptsd. his attorney contends the marine should be released on humanitarian grounds citing a lack of mexican resources to treat the disorder. with us now the chairman of the house estimate that did the hearing on the sergeant s case, congressman matt salmon. he s spoken with the mexican attorney general to expedite the marine s return to the united states. matt, this is a story some people have been following a lot lately. why has the u.s. marine been down in mexico for six months and we haven t acted on it more quickly than now. that s a great question. i can t give you a great answer as far as why the administration hasn t done anything to weigh in. in fact, one of the juxtapositions that was raised yesterday is how he invested so much to get bergdahl released, yet this marine who served two tours of duty in afghanistan and is a her jobs he s done nothing. are we moving closer to a possible release? i think so. right after the hearing the ambassador from mexico called me and i think it was a very positive conversation, and my expectation is that within the next couple of weeks he ll be freed. ron? the administration we re talking about that they have been making high level contact, haven t been very public about it. you have to be graceful with diplomacy. i wonder why and i do commend you for having this hearing. it could help free him. why didn t congress have a hearing five months ago? i think five months ago we were optimistic at that time when i first visited him in prison, i actually visited him twice. i think we were pretty optimistic that things would move in the right direction. why haven t they why haven t they? yeah. what does mexico have to gain. at the time our state department people who i met with, the consulate in tijuana, they said that things were moving in the right direction and they were pretty optimistic. why blame the administration. we ve been jerked around for several pose now and my feeling was it s way pastime to get this young man out of prison. and i wanted to shed some light on it. jeremy? switching gears i want to talk about isis and congress. now john boehner had said there are no isis members in congress. that we know of. right. that we know of. you watch homeland you might have a different answer. but john boehner has said he doesn t think that congress should debate a war resolution in the lame duck but as you know this congress has been famous for punting these issues on down the road so they don t have to deal with them. right. do you think that john bone certificate wrong. i think it should be as experiod dexpe experiod die fast as possible. i think our viewing that the one that was that was a decade old still applies is not a good argument. i think would you vote to repeal that? no. i would vote to gave new authorization of force. as you and i spoke before, i think that congress and the white house need to really come clean with the american people. i think that what s going to happen after november is troops, our ground troops will start going in to syria. the fact is despite the president s promys. he promised if you like your insurance you can keep it. come on. look at you going back to obamacare. joe, the better the better way to put it is he promised it was about humanitarian aid in the beginning. that s more of the slippery slope. the president will do what the president has to do. ultimately, if we re going to be victorious and make sure that isis is never a threat again to us, then it s going to take all options on table. yeah. and i ve said this before, and i think that waiting until after the election to do that or mass amnesty, whatever is i think we should lay it on the table. we should lay it on table right now. okay. all right. congressman matt salmon thank you very much. coming up, his films are beloved by millions you didn t give matt that look. hold on a second. i was befuddled by what you were 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the polling and research film latino decisions. very good to have you both with us. the co-authors of the new book latina america, how america s most dynamic population is poigsed to transform the politics of the nation. so, matt, let s start with you. pretty fascinating statistic that you guys talk about. at some point in april of 2014, latino child born in the california hospital tipped the scales and made the latinos the number one demographic group in that state. that s right. you say it s going to happen in texas before 2020. the face, the democratic, demo gr graphic face of america. it s irreversible. the first is we re now hitting a shift in the population changes. where the latino population is not growing as fast from immigration, it s growing from u.s. birthings. that is from the migration we ve had in the last 20 years or so. these are u.s. born latinas who are giving birth to u.s. born latinos so that s going to continue happening well into the future. you guys study this, you poll it, you understand the mood. it s your job to understand the mood of the latino community in america. how does that impact politics moving forward? it is a very unhappy demographic, i would say. it s a very optimistic population. but the political climate has been toxic. since the immigration debate has welled up. with the passage of laws, latinos feel like they re under attack. when laws say the police can ask for papers and identification, on the basis of we know not yet, even third and fourth generation latinos oppose those laws. while latinos have been trending demographic, if you look at the 2016 republican field, you have potential candidates on the republican side. how does that play in the latino community? well that s, you know, something we ve studied and that s in the book, something we ve been looking at for a long time. senator rubio has potential to make in roads. he s changed his position now he is, he s back to he actually was pulling well. senator cruz has not. he has not somehow resonated with some of those tea party positions. but rubio has potential to really help bring the party back if he sort of corrects course on immigration. he was a very strong supporter during 2013 when the bill passed. i wouldn t hold your breath on that. wow. immigration aside, i talked to a lot of republicans who say, oh, demographics, you know, demographics. hispanics are going to continue to be a bigger part of the voting population. i just don t buy it. i don t see any evidence that latinos are naturally democr democratic. i have no idea why you would say that because we poll them on everything under the sun and there s been a trope in the latino establishment. it turnsinos overwhelmingly don t vote on religious don t assume i m talking about social issues. i m talking about economic issues. i ve always said to republican groups, when your message appeals to a 17-year-old latino voter in south central l.a. as much as it appeals to a 65-year-old hedge funder in greenwich, they ll start winning election, again. you have to find out what that message is. they believe in an active energetic and efficient government. they don t necessarily want a big government. they don t have faith in the free market. an efficient federal government. if the free market it s up to the republicans i think, is it not? are you saying the republicans should just pull up their tent poles and go home? i think a lot of republicans believe in an energetic efficient government. it s a messaging issue. tell the 17-year-old kid how she s going to get a job over the next three or four years. or tell the 25-year-old latino that s graduating from a great college in california why she still don t have a job and give them hope. i don t think the republicans have done that. the area where i think you re exactly right is the area of entrepreneurship. cell phone businesses. starting up small businesses. we find record high levels of support. and that s an area where the republicans can make inroads. they have to stop saying the nasty things. there are some issues, yes you re saying, let me get this, you re saying republicans can t insult latinos and win elections? not only are we saying it exactly. they said, if your first sentence is, we want you out of the country, we don t really care i think that s fair. i ve been very critical of karl rove and george w. bush through the years. they were saying this in 1997. in 1997. they were obsessing about this. joe, you re right. george w. bush as governor understood this. rick perry understood it until he turned backwards in that debate. so you are right about this one. yeah, that we got to go? exactly. the book is latino america. matt and gary, thank you so much. and this programming note. this year s alma awards will air on msnbc highlighting the best american latino contribution, to music, tv and film. that s friday october 10th at 10:00 p.m. eastern time. don t miss it. up next, we need to be more like 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natural teeth. fixodent. and forget it. good morning, everybody. it s thursday, october 2nd. with us on the set in washington, d.c., boy, it s great to be here. busy night. new york times reporter jeremy peters. good to have you. former white house press secretary for president obama robert gibbs. abc news political commentator, npr senior analyst cokie roberts. on capitol hill, the host and managing editor of tv 1 s daily morning show news 1 now. roland martin. we ve got a lot to talk about. i want to start with you, you ve done work with save the children. i ve just been reading about the ebola virus and the gentleman in dallas, how he contracted it. we ve heard people who say to the show, you know, there s no reason to be worried unless you exchange bodily fluids. so you think somebody has to spit in my face. i m not going to get the disease. this guy in texas got the disease carrying a pregnant woman by her legs. helping a family member. they re yelling at me. we don t know that s how he got the disease. i read in the new york times, that s one of the things he did. a brother of the woman, alex, talking into my ear. who cares about was carrying her by the other leg, i believe, contracted the disease and died. well, we don t know we don t know. i don t want to say anything disgusting at 6:00 in the morning but we don t know what her situation was, let s just put it that way. okay, so from your i m just trying to figure this out. how hard is it to spread the disease? if you have a lot of people who don t have washed hands and and look at the situation and you re in a terrible unsanitary situation, then it s much easier to spread the disease. which is why you re seeing any of the medical teams covered up, looking like they re in, you know, on the moon. if you look at the pictures in the new york times, even, you get a sense of the conditions of the victims, people suffering from it. i just got an e-mail from rich besser, who s the abc doctor who s been over there, working with the kids. one of the kids he had followed died this morning. it s heartbreaking. he said, if that child were in america, that child would be alive. really? yeah. that s what we re dealing with. we re dealing with totally unprepared health systems. totally unsanitary situations. in many cases, no water, or clean water. these are places where we re capable of dealing with it here. that doesn t mean we re not going to see it again. no, it means we can handle it. the ability to quarantine somebody. deal with infoectious disease his except for one thing. roland. if our hospitals are following the proper protocol. one of the issues is, this hospital initially released him. then he goes back out and so now you re going to hear him going through dulles, now being around schoolchildren as well. so part of this is is will american hospitals how will they recognize it and follow the right protocols. that s the real issue right there. because a hospital in dallas released him and he was gone for three days. released him, yeah, it was n unbelievable. all right, let s move on to the top story. the washington post is doing an extraordinary job. i mean, you know you re doing a great job when the head of the secret service has to call the president of the united states because they know the post is about to tell him something they don t i mean, the last time that happened, bill had to wake up hillary and, you know, say, hey, something s about to break in the newspaper. i m serious. can you believe she didn t tell the president of the united states there was a guy with a gun in the elevator with him? i m going to rewind back 24 hours. i just am surprised that the white house, you know, appeared on our show today, you know, gibb, maybe you can explain, josh earnest. please, explain to me how they could so vehemently defend yeah, the morning josh earnest was on we ll have to go to the video. and he was defiant. no, we have total confidence in in director. and capture, if you could, my face. because i couldn t even think of another question to ask him because the conversation seemed so needlessly by the way, we found out this is really something. you can talk to this, okay. i like him. i once said this of a campaign person who lied to me. i called the person up. okay, so let me ask you this, did you not think the sun was not going to rise the next morning? did you not think i wasn t going to have a tv show to tell everybody you guys lied through your teeth to me? don t be stupid. you don t have to lie. josh didn t have to come on yesterday beating his chest when they already knew she d lost confidence by not telling the president. members of the democratic party in the house were saying she needed to go. right. yeah. losing confidence and resigning i think are two different things, right? i think josh would probably tell you right now he did not know she was going to resign. he did not know but that s not the question. the question mika asked, and this is why it was such a confusing response from him. you asked, does the president have confidence they can still protect the first family. and why he would so unequivocally say yes seemed to me to just be you almost wonder if he had spoken to the president about this at all. but jeremy qualifications for the job the questions he may not have that s a problem for the roland, we re going to go to you in a second. we re going to run this clip. hopefully it has mika s mortified look after. let s go to the tape. are you telling me this morning the president and the first lady have confidence in pierson to run an agency that s supposed to protect their two daughters? yes, joe, they have confidence in them, i think for the reasons i ve laid out. these are men and women who wake up every day prepared to put their life i m not talking about the profession professionals. i think they deserve better leadership than they have. there s responsibility that she takes very seriously. the white house staff and the president himself take this very seriously. the president has articulated he s concerned about the security around his family, as any parent would be. okay, we don t have mika s face so i ll just recreate it. i did ask four questions before joe asked that question. it s like this. that was your face. like, what is this? and i roland, we just i don t know, that hurts his credibility moving forward i think. actually it doesn t. that is the only response they can give. you re talking about protecting the president. also talking about conveying confidence to the american people. the president and josh earnest cannot come out and say, well, we really don t know, so you have to protect it. you re going, what the hell are you doing. but no other choice but to do that. the person who must really be saying that is michelle obama. i mean, if i were she, i would be so angry. my children are in there. and they are i mean, honestly, you know, our own houses are better protected. the elevator incident is perplexing because i ve been in plenty of elevators with the president. the only people in the elevator with the president are people that are either in the secret services or people that the secret service knows exactly who they are. well, there s a manifest as carol lee said, wall street journal white house correspondent, she said, it seems even more preposterous when we the media had to get there live four hours beforehand, because everybody was shut down. and then they let this guy amble on with a gun. well, that actually was what did it with this resignation what i m hearing from sources very close to the white house. pierson, julia pierson, the director of course, resigned yesterday, telling bloomberg news, quote, i think it s in the best interest of the secret service of the american public if i step down. congress has lost confidence in my ability to run the agency. the media made it clear this is what they expected. officials say officials say well, i ll tell you. president obama lost faith after learning he shared an elevator last month at the cdc with an armed man with a criminal record. pierson only told president obama moments before it was reported. i can tell you, though, that the white house first learned of that incident yesterday afternoon, shortly before it was reported, before it was publicly reported. the agency did foot tell the white house about it. he didn t know about it until yesterday. until it was reported publicly, that s correct. we ve seen recent and accumulating reports raising questions about the performance the agency. and the president concluded new leadership of that agency was required. so what we ve gotten from sources close to the white house and the secret service is that there were three options to replace the secret service director who was being removed. and it was an african-american, a man, and woman. and they went with the woman because the optics would be better. for the optics. that s number one. number two, the thing that really led to this was not the white house fence jumper but the elevator. and she didn t bring that up to him when they first met about the fence jumper. they re supposed to be. when the president is in the room, there s a manifest. everybody in that space with the president is supposed to be on it. and this guy with the weapon and a record. and a record. was on an elevator in the cdc with the president. shooting video. oh, my god. shooting video of the president. he pulls a camera out. thank god he was just shooting video. robert. i do think first of all, having worked with the secret service for four years, i always was struck by the utmost professionalism. these are people that sign up to stand in front of the president if something goes horribly wrong. i know joe clancy. i think joe is a fabulous interim pick. i would not be surprised. my apologies to both joe and his family if he doesn t get pushed and pulled to stay on as a more permanent director. i think joe is going to have a lot of confidence among the agents. but let s just pause for one second on the resignation. a security apparatus is literally has to be strong everywhere, right? director pierson was not at the white house. somebody would previously had been at the white house. happened to turn into i think there clearly were a series of security lapses that september 19th. we actually had two guys down on constitution, on constitution, who said there s gunfire, and somebody said no, it was backfire. they said no, there s a shooting. i agree there has to be and there should be a change in leadership. right. again, this is everybody needs to be shaken up. my dad told a story last night, just at the table about when he first got his job. said, you know, what about this threat we re facing. we need to make sure the president can get out of here. they said, we can get him out of here in two minutes. he said really, let s do it right now. he called everyone on it. everybody had to rally and the chopper had to get in place. took them much longer than they thought. he did a drill completely unexpectedly. they put three-foot fences up. i d start doing drills. i d catch people with their pants down right and left and fire them and figure it out. i was struck by the fact in the hearing, 116 people over the past five years have climbed the fence. now, i m not a security expert, and i m not trying to be flip, but i think the first thing i would do is build a bigger fence. let s get jeremy in here. my colleague did reporting on this and found the fence is actually an historic artifact so you can t tear it down. well, you could tear it down. the secret service s culpability here is clear. what about the white house s handling of this? doesn t look to be the most deft crisis management. now they re leaking things about how this woman was not their first choice. not professional. you have to look at the choice, regardless. one of the things, in josh s defense, all too often. i was in some of these meetings. specifically with joe. there s a small circle of people that are going to get read into the security movements of a president for obvious reasons. josh may just not have known exactly what was happening. that doesn t mean josh is uninformed by any means. to read the story on saturday night or sunday morning. to understand we didn t know how far that person got into the white house until the eve of the shooting. it s incumbent upon the secret service. and lied to us about it too. josh said this, they ve got to be much more transparent. not in the way that compromises security. they don t need to lie. this morning s washington post, also, mika, has more details. about pierson s time. the report says severe staffing shortages grew under her watch. pierson rejected a study that called for 100 surveillance officers to patrol the white house. she urged for far fewer. this week, pierce be honored a request to open a street near netanyahu s hotel. the mayor had traffic concerns. even though the street has been closed for years to prevent a possible attack. officials say pierson also reopened streets and removed layers of fencing when president obama hosted the u.s. africa leaders summit earlier this year. they say pierson who worked as a costume character at disney world as a teen, said, we need to be more like disney world. she didn t say that, no, she didn t. i think they re making that up. they re making that up. it is true that sometimes the security drives you completely nuts. and there s been a lot of overreaction in washington. shutting down pennsylvania avenue and all of that. which shows you. shutting down pennsylvania avenue only apparently but do you really need to be more like have you ever been to of course i have, many times. mika hasn t, she wants to know what it s like. i went and i left immediately, okay, the people stop, stop. no, i m not like goofy on pennsylvania avenue some time later today ridiculous things, talking about 30 look, she had a 30-year service with the secret service so it s not quite fair to talk about her as a teenager. the fact is, this was a major, major failure. still ahead on morning joe, he is not happy with the obama administration and he s not scared of hillary clinton. bernie sanders is with us later this hour. that s one way to describe it. up next, the world respond too late? what needs to happen now that the ebola virus is spreading beyond west africa. but first, bill karins with a check on the forecast. we had that classic battle. fall is moving in, summer is moving out. we re getting thunderstorms. 40 million people at risk of severe weather today, including st. louis, chicago, in the dallas area. already this morning, we have storms over missouri and oklahoma. it will get worse as we go throughout the day. here s the area of concern. not everyone is going to get hit. if you re in this region, you have a chance of seeing widespread wind damage, large hail and damage and also isolated tornadoes. the best chance of any tornadoes today unfortunately is arkansas. if you re in the little rock area, you need to keep an eye on the weather, especially this afternoon. later tonight, memphis and indianapolis. also in the northeast, visibility s poor. we ve had an ocean storm for two days. been miserable weather up there. southwest new england, especially cape cod and boston. la guardia, one-hour delays because of the low visibility. the other story is on the west coast. l.a., 93 today. we all know how horrible the drought is. this is a late season, 101 in l.a. on saturday, very dangerous fire condition, through the weekend. a shot of a drizzly, kind of dreary new york city. one-hour flight delays should improve as the day goes on. you re watching morning joe. we ll be right back. you want to cut through the noise of an overwhelming amount of analysis. 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last night, at the phillips collection, that s my mother s bench featured there at that incredible institution. my mother did an event, talking about her new book, the lure of the forest. and her incredible body of work. and we had a great audience. and she was fantastic. and, as you know, her work is is unbelievable. it s on display right now. at the phillips collection as well as the krieger museum in washington. i had to dash other because your dad. my dash is being honored at the center of strategic and international studies. they ve opened up the brzezinski institute, which is focused on geostrategy. and he spoke and had a wonderful time, actually able to make it to both events. it was wonderful. i m not sure how to keep up with these two. you re a lucky woman. i am, so proud. you walk into the brzezinski institute, you go in, and he goes, welcome. i walk in and there must be detectors. you know you are stunningly superficial no. just for me, for me. it was a wonderful dinner. i m glad we were there for a few minutes. now, the morning papers. we have thomas in new york as well for that. we ll start, thomas, with the st. louis dispatch. prosecutors in st. louis are ininvestigating allegations of misconduct in the grand jury investigation into the death of michael brown. a twitter user claimed to have inside knowledge into the case, saying, quote, i know someone sitting on the grand jury of this case. there isn t enough at this point to warrant an arrest. the post and twitter account were quickly deleted. the grand jury has been looking at this case. if there was a breach, the entire process would have to start over. we look at the usa today. they are talking about mcdonald s launching a new menu item as the fast food wars are heating up in japan. mickey dees are going to be selling a limited edition black burger. appears to be no match for the burger king version. that s disgusting. all black buns, the cheese and special squid ink sauce. who would eat that? mcdonald s features a bun dyed back. this is worse than green beer on st. patrick s day. there s still no word if the burgers will come to the u.s. but if they do, we will have a morning joe eat-off contest right here on the set. no. that would be the worst japanese invasion since pearl harbor. just keep your burgers over there, please. i want to see them in person. i just want to see them in person up close. why? no, you don t. this from the l.a. times. netflix has reportedly signed a deal with adam sandler. it s going to have the comedian and actor producing and starring in four films for the streaming site. the first could arrive as early as next year. it s something netflix has really gotten into, the original content business. what would be great, mika has been asking for happy gilmore 2 and 3 and this could finally get around to doing that. let s look at fortune. billionaire richard branson has given his personal staff, nearly 200 people, unlimited vacation days. the chairman and founder of virgin group says the staff is free to take off whenever they want for as long as they want. and they don t need to get manager approval. this was an idea inspired by a similar policy at netflix. the new rules are going to apply to those in virgin s head office. if the policy is successful, sir richard is going to encourage the company s subsidiaries to adopt that policy as well. how do we get them to buy our company? i know. i m applauding the day. is there a virgin tv group? we ve been talking about the ebola outbreak in west africa. in confirmation the virus has now jumped to america. joining us now, time magazine s health director shiven o connor. with the new cover time. chasing ebola. its potential damage here in the u.s. thanks for being on. the question, obviously, the conditions in areas in west africa are horrific. and lead to the virus spreading. are we certain, though, about containment here in the u.s.? can we really unequivocally say we won t see x amount of cases? the thing about ebola that is important to realize is we actually do know how to contain the virus. there s a very straight forward protocol. given the resources that we have and the resource-rich country like the united states with a great health care system, we can contain this case, no question. he s in isolation. contact tracing is the best practice, which means going out to every single person he s had contact with and monitoring them for 21 days as well. in the hands of the cdc, this can be contained. front page of the washington post talks about ebola misstep in texas. do you think the mistake of the texas hospital is probably going to change the game for other hospitals across the u.s.? i think it sounds the alarm. the first and most important thing is the patient be in isolation as soon as possible. but hopefully that won t be happen the next time someone shows up with hemorrhagic fever. give me the stat. five people an hour in sierra leone. contracting the disease. so it is really, you know, it s spreading like crazy. you know, one of the really sad things africa was doing pretty well. there was a lot of good news coming out of africa. and now this has set back those countries for a generation. well, earlier this morning, i read in the new york times, everybody jumped on me on. trying to embrace your newspaper and everybody s act like i just crawled out of a sewer. i heard no. but in that story, you have this poor woman, this 19-year-old pregnant woman has ebola, rushed to a hospital there, and they turn her away. she goes home seven months pregnant and died at home a few hours later. there s just an infrastructure problem. there s a terrible infrastructure problem. the answer in some ways, how do we not have it spread here, is we ve got to have a surgeon in that infrastructure in west africa. because it s not being generated here unless you come into contact with somebody who has it. that person came from west africa. that is obviously where this has started. that s the place where we have to correct it. the u.s. military is setting up a hospital. usaid is sending in a lot of money. organizations like save the children are going in. the new time cover, chasing ebola. thank you very much. coming up, a downright scary start to the month of october on wall street. will the u.s. markets rally today? 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john denver. i love that song. i m a sucker. every time i hear this song, i just hear it up. i always tweet randomly like once every nine months, you know. that would be a poor man who never saw an eagle fly. it was definitely a soundtrack for our road trip. kasie is joining us. there s a lot of movement in some key races this morning. president obama of course won colorado easily in 2012 but now his unpopularity is making it tough for senator mark udall to keep his seat. kacie traveled to colorado over the weekend to catch up with both candidates. he s a nice guy. my opponent mark udall is a very nice guy. there s no disagreement. mark udall and carey gardner are real nice guys. in one of the year s closest senate races, that s pretty much where the civility ends. the president of the united states was in colorado in july to host a fund-raiser for mark udall. mark udall was so ashamed of his record that he couldn t even show up with the president. he s the tenth most right wing member in the house. he s more conservative than former congressman crayo with which takes some doing. thrilled when he ran against udall. his easy manner seemed like a good match for colorado. udall is still trying to paint gardner as an extremist. a big smile s a nice thing. i think we all have big smiles. your actions matter. reporter: the primary focus. women. more than half of udall s ads have been focused on abortion and contraception. gardner even championed an eight-year crusade to outlaw birth control. he backed away from a initiative that could have outlawed popular forms of birth control. he supports making contraception available over the counter. he d rather change the subject. your name is still on the federal bill the life at conception act. there is no federal. that is two different pieces of legislation. i understand udall wants to run away from the failed economy. do you still support the life conception act? i m still on the bill. gardner wants to focus on udall s ties to president obama who s deeply popular in colorado. he tried to back away from the white house. let me tell you, the white house, when they look down the front lawn, the last person they want to see coming is me. i ve challenged this white house on a whole set of policies where they ve been wrong. doesn t make sense to they sayer th er thithey worry about? i d been a thorn in their side on the nsa, on the va, on the cia. they haven t always been happy to take my calls. both sides do agree it s been a close race since march and that it will stay that way through november. 40 days out, we ve got a ground game here that we ve never seen in a popular election. still, it s not clear it will be enough to withstand the national head winds or whether the senator who once had to turn back from the senate of mt. everest will come up short again. the point is to come home alive. doesn t count if you touch the top of the mountain and you don t make it back to civilization. a couple of weeks ago, we d heard that mark udall was moving ahead in this race and, you know, this was breaking democrat. it looks like it s tightened up again. it has. it s one of the only places where both sides openly acknowledge they have no idea how this is going to come out. look at this guy. rocky mountain man here. he looks like colorado. his opponent looks like a connecticut guy. and is this all do they believe internally that his numbers are trucked down, all because of the president? i think the president is the main problem at this point which is kind of a flip. py would also see the governor s race is impacting this. john hickenlooper is having problems over, particularly, the death penalty and also some gun control legislation. and how hickenlooper performed could impact this. covered pat roberts in kansas, shifting gears here, sarah palin came in, a lot of things happened. and now we actually have the independent pulling ahead in a pu poll this morning. new usa today poll. when i was out there, in talking to both campaigns. look at that, lead over pat roberts since sarah palin came in last week. it s hard for roberts to make this a close race. i think at this point it s a race against time to see whether or not pat roberts campaign can actually drive orman s numbers down. there s a little bit counterconventional wisdom idea that maybe setting this up as a two-person race turns orman into a democrat which ultimately doesn t work for him. you have a democrat on the rope and a republican on the ropes. both for the same reasons. it s the anti-washington dysfunction year. and that s the only really unifying issue in any of these races. so you have pat roberts, it looks like he s been hang around in washington too long. and mark udall. and harry reid. mark s a nice guy. another poll that came out, scott walker. just yesterday, we were talking about how tight this race was. what do you make of this? up by five points over mary but. mary but has stumbled. we talked about it. stumbled a bit in the past. and maybe some of those stumbles are hurting her. she s stumbling most recently over this plagiar system issue. there s some questions about how significant this issue really is. but she s really struggled in how she s talked about it. she did a press conference with reporters. she sort of froze up in fryi it to explain what plagiarism was. and a really tough to say the least. great job. up next, he s got strong words for the president and a clear vision for what he thinks the country s priorities should be. senator bernie sanders joining us live next on morning joe. i love having a free checked bag. with my united mileageplus explorer card. i have saved $75 in checked bag fees. priority boarding is really important to us. you can just get on the plane and relax. i love to travel, no foreign transaction fees means real savings. we can go to any country and spend money the way we would in the us. when i spend money on this card i can see brazil in my future. i use the explorer card to earn miles in order to go visit my family which means a lot to me. press your tonguenture, against it like this. it moves unlike natural teeth. do you feel it? 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new hampshire, is just really nearby. it s a beautiful state across the river. we ve talked for some time about hillary clinton as a possible nominee, a woman who has close ties to wall street. in the traditional base on foreign policy. does hillary need a challenger in 16 to have a full and vigorous debate? let me just say this, i think in america, we re not about anointing anybody. i think there are enormous problems in terms of income and wealth inequality. in terms of real unemployment being 12%, youth unemployment 20%. in terms of disastrous citizens united supreme court decision which allows billionaires to buy elections. there are huge issues that i think the american people want to see discussed and that we need to see discussed. we re not about anointing people. okay. are you going to run? i m giving thought to it. what i have to determine, and that s why i m going to iowa, going to new hampshire, is whether in fact there is this kind of grassroots support that i would need to take on the billionaire class and the coke brothers. bringing millions of people together to try to reverse the decline of the middle class, to deal with poverty, to take on the greed of wall street and the fact that some of the politicians are owned by big money interests. it s easy to give a great speech on that issue, mika. it is very hard to determine if you re serious and if you really want to win, whether you can mobilize people in the way that has to be done to be successful. jeremy. senator, good morning. there s some differences in the democratic caucus right now about how to approach syria in combating isis. when you guys come back from your long recess, what are you going to push for? to see debated on the senate floor with regard to the war effort? let me tell you what i think. obviously, isis is a brutal and dangerous organization. but after 12 years of war in the middle east, it should be clear to all of us that it is not going to be the united states of america alone that is going to defeat isis. that the countries in the region, including saudi arabia, qata qatar, and the other nations, including iran, are going to have to step up to the plate. because if this is perceived as a war between the united states and isis, that doesn t work. it cannot be perceived as a war between christians and muslims. these guys have got to step up to the plate. saudi arabia spends the fourth most amount of money on defense that any country more than the uk, more than france. they re going to have to get their hands dirty. they ll have to jump into to conflict. it cannot be simply done by the united states. turkey is going to have to be involved as well. senator sanders, when you decide, will you announce here, please? if you re going to run for president the issue is not announcing. the issue is a serious discussion about how we rebuild a crumbling middle class. that s what we do here. how to create the millions of jobs that we need. if you re going to talk about a serious discussion, you should probably go somewhere else. no, come here. if you want to be glib about it, come here. since new hampshire s such a beautiful state, should i take my children to go skiing in new hampshire this winter and stop going to vermont? no, new hampshire is a very beautiful state, vermont s a little bit more beautiful. i love it. very good. senator bernie sanders, thank you so much. we ll be right back with what we learned. ok, if you re up there, i could use some help. smart sarah. seeking guidance. just like with your investments. that sets you apart. it does? it does. you re type e . and seeking another perspective is what type e s do. oh, and your next handhold. is there. you don t have to go it alone. e trade gives you the support and guidance to make informed decisions. are you type e ? it s time to talk about what we learned today. mika, you got a call from a friend? just talked to dennis mcdonough at the white house. he wanted to point out, by the way, our coverage by the way, dennis is everybody s friend. it s almost like you re at disney world, he s so nice. his point, the decision about pierson had not been made at the time josh was on our show yesterday. pushing back a little bit. because you had that funny look. saying josh is a part of the team and back off. yesterday, when the whole world knew all i did was look at him. that she was going to be fired. stop. they re saying the decision had not been made. to that, i just go i can t do the face as well as you do the face. but anyway. all right. so we re going to talk to him some more. we like josh. it s nothing personal. what did you learn? i learned robert gibbs is no sentimentalist and he would tear down that beautiful iron fence outside the white house. it s been there since like 1800. yeah, what is wrong with him, it is history. that you love john denver. oh, my god. i do too, don t tell anybody. rocky mountain high, sweet surrender. take me home country road. i m leaving on a jet plane. i want to do a take test. for the squid ink black burgers. and we re going to do a contest and see which one tastes better. we thought what they did on december 7th, 1941, was bad. that s horrific. that s it for us. the daily rundown is next. how much money do you have in your pocket right now? 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log on to our facebook to see the solutions. use the hash tag keep talking. good morning. i m elisabeth hasselbeck. it is monday, july 28. a fox news alert, a day at the beach turns deadly. details on a deadly storm straight ahead. the federal government dumping illegal kids across the country but they re not telling the governors about it and one governor got the word by logging on to a government website. how convenient. remember this video? daredevils jumping off the freedom tower. wait until you hear how their lawyer is going the extra mile, literally, to help their case. are you intrigued? i hope so. that was the whole intention. mornings are better with friends. it s time for fox & friends. i don t know about you, but i m all fox fanned out. what do you mean? that time at the stadium shaking hands and kissing babies, it was wonderful but i m exhausted from the weekend. the games were wild too. we had a good old time. what a fun weekend. my kids had a blast. they had a blast there with the cousins. the kids got a chance to hang out. what we re referring to is saturday and sunday the yankees hosted fox fans weekend with us. we had a chance to get the finest fox fans that we could muster up together to watch the yankees lose two in a row after an extremely hot streak since the all-star break. look how much fun it was. this red sox fan actually had fun at a yankees game. that was a blast for us. we ve got pictures. we ll share them at the bottom of the hour but in the meantime we turn to heather nauert. good morning. baseball and heat, and it is a fox news alert. a day at the beach ending in panic when a rare thunderstorm hits southern california, lightning striking venice beach killing a 20-year-old man and injuring more than a dozen other people. at least two victims were in the water during this lightning strike. witnesses recording as life guards pull one of the victims to shore. beach goers say the storm took them completely by surprise. all of a sudden there was a big flash of light, a boom and i felt like someone punched me in the back of the head. it sounded like a sonic boom. it literally shook the buildings. can you imagine that? that same storm hitting catalina island where a golfer was struck by lightning, expected to be okay. two americans helping to combat the outbreak of ebola in liberia have been infectd with that deadly disease. a volunteer from north carolina is the second american to come down with that virus. she works at the same hospital where dr. kent brantley from texas also contracted the highly contagious disease. that ebola outbreak has spread to three african countries killing more than 670 people, roughly 62 pk of those infected with that disease. while you were sleeping the u.n. calling for an immediate and unconditional cease-fire between gaza and israel. the security council president calling for israel and hamas to accept this peace deal which doesn t mention israel s right to defend itself or asking hamas to stop firing rockets. this follows a weekend of brief lulls in fighting as violence raged on. more than 1,000 people have been killed in the 20-day war so far. do you remember this when three daredevils jumped off the building in manhattan last fall? that s video of their stupid stunt. now their lawyer is proving he will go the extra mile for his clients literally. the attorney going skydiving with them for case research. he s making a 14,000 foot jump in new jersey saying he hopes it will help their case. the three men are facing several charges including felony dollary. those are your headlines. thank you very much. even though today is the first day of the work week, people on capitol hill are already looking towards thursday because that is when their august vacation begins, the summer break officially. you think to yourself, wait a minute, is this really time for them to go on vacation? after all, we ve got an invasion on our southern border while both sides have talked about doing something about it, nobody has. a lot blame to go around so they say. actually one congressman out of louisiana says i m not going anywhere until we fix the problem and to double down on the fact this is the president s fault. the president has been awol from the beginning. the president has a lot of time on his schedule to secure fund-raisers but no time to secure the border. he has not taken his job seriously in this regard. the house is willing to lead. the president wants to sit back and play politics. he s flying around the country doing fund-raisers, he doesn t have time to sit down with congress. they have a highway trust fund. i don t know if anyone is going to extend it. we would like to find out about the export-import bank. there is money for the border. we ll see where it goes from there. speaking of immigration, let s talk about the illegal immigrants, many of which are children, that have come across our borders. where have they gone? where will they go? turns out according to one governor, they have come to his state. he had no idea about it. we re talking about bill haslem, the republican governor of the great state of tennessee. they were at a governors meeting a couple of months ago and he specifically asked the secretary of health and human services sylvia burwell, if you re going to put any of these illegals in our state, let us know, will you? then he logs on to the h.h.s. website and discovers 760 of the kids have been released somewhere in tennessee, 30,000 all across the country. as it turns out, he didn t get a heads up even though he apparently was promised one. he actually went out to slam the president and those that he met with, with the warning that he requested unfulfilled saying this, quote, not only was our state not informed prior to any of the children being brought here, i still have not been contacted, have no information about these individuals or their sponsors other than what was posted on the h.h.s. website and subsequently reported by media. some of the questions he s looking for answers to are how did the federal government locate these sponsors? what medical screenings were done for the juveniles that have crossed here and been poured into our state? what is the immigration state of the actual sponsors? how long are they going to remain in tennessee? all of this confusion entering chaos as we start a school season here. deval patrick had no idea illegals were being poured into massachusetts. we re trying to find out where these kids have gone, i think 30,000 have disappeared into the system. in terms of the actual compassion shown to the children, to the surprise of many, yesterday on fox news sunday chris wallace asked what about the illegals. listen. we have 3,141 counties in this country. that would be 20 per coant. the idea that we can t assimilate these eight-year-old criminals with their teddy bears is preposterous. what george will is saying, make them americans but spread them around. you know what? i know one mayor of a big town here in the united states who d love to take 1,000 of the illegals is chicago mayor rahm emanuel. he said over the weekend, go ahead, we will take 100 rather, we ll take 1,000 of the illegals and we re going to use the city s legal resources to help them. but, you know, do the kids really want to go to one of the most dangerous, most violent, crazy towns? america? you look at the number of shootings over the last weekend alone, over the weekend there were 23 shootings this weekend alone. 23. when you look at the number of shootings in chicago from mid-june to mid-july, it was 220. so he can say we ll take 1,000 kids, but is it safe in chicago right now? not only that but when you take those that are most susceptible to entering into gang violence, chicago is at the helm of this. they asked for federal agents ten days ago. the federal government said they were going to provide additional efforts to deal with the battle violence going on in chicago adding to a total of 52 alcohol, tobacco and firearm agents that have been added to their situation there. why would you take young kids, teens, put them in a situation where they re susceptible to more gang violence or joining gangs particularly when we have a gang taking advantage of the border crisis right now. ms-13. and adding to the complexity here of this? and give them free tattoos as they join domestic gangs. here s the thing about rahm emanuel. if you re in chicago, how outraged are you? it is basically a failed state. then mayor emanuel wants to look magnanimous and compassionate by saying give me 500 or 1,000 kids that i will prop up. if i m a parent or single parent trying to meak make things work in chicago and i hear you re going to use state funds for this, i d be outraged. i was reading one blog post from a very prominent blogger out there who said we get all these shootings here in this town, mr. president, and you re talking about spending millions and billions of do texas. come on. give every kid some kevlar and send them to school. or give them a driver. the president of the united states over the weekend while we ve got things going on with gaza, the stuff with the ukraine, the president of the united states spent the weekend with tony cornheiser and the host of espn at a congressional country club in washington, d.c. why not? i don t know how many rounds of golf it s been. i m a person who thinks look, you want to golf, that s fine if it helps you clear your head, if it helps you take action, golf all you want. but it doesn t seem to be the case when it comes to the united states. former secretary of state madeleine albright says the world is a mess. somebody better wake up to it. there have been really two huge game changers, and one is putin s behavior vis-a-vis crimea and then now towards ukraine and a completely different kind of behavior by russia. the other is what is happening in the middle, a lot due to the awakening. these are huge game changers. there are an awful lot of things going on that need understanding and explanation. but to put it mildly, the world is a mess. she s also being very political. if you watch the whole interview, she said i have no problem with the president not engaged, golfing, going to fund-raisers. he has 81 rounds of golf in 628 since the 2012 election. seemingly aloof as those have said. looked what happened to libya over the weekend. we had to evacuate our embassy. what happened to that operation? we go in with the arab league and we go into some western allies and we just leave. there was no plan. it s chaos. she s right. things are a mess. matt lewis of the daily caller wrote a column in the telegraph overred weekend. he says the president of the united states checked out of his job, phoning it in, sleepwalking through the second term with golf and dinner parties. he s prematurely packing his bags. he s ready for an early departure. while the world is aflame, everything is a mess, to paraphrase what madeleine albright just said, is it time for the president of the united states to pack up the golf bag and put it down and maybe do his job for a couple of days, maybe turn some of this stuff around? or it s the summer. he should be taking it easy. what do you think? e-mail us. you can also twitter. james carville says the president doesn t care about the polls, he s already looking at his place in history which is not good for us. maybe take a look at the changing global map that s occurring right now. meanwhile, straight ahead, a stroll on the beach turns into a deadly nightmare when a plane slams right into the sand out of nowhere. the latest on this freak accident. another home-grown american company forced to do business overseas thanks to insane corporate taxes. but some calling walgreens unpatriotic for their stance. stuart varney is here with more on that. 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the president, i think, is setting up business, setting up the republicans so that in the election in november he can say look at those people, they re taking their money overseas. they re unpatriotic, they re not doing the right thing, not doing their fair share. it is a setup so the president can look very good come the november elections. there are numerous corporations who want to leave america, put their headquarters, a couple of jobs, overseas so they can take advantage of lower tax rates over there compared to the sky-high rates over here. the president wants to put a fence around america, stop anybody leaving. that s what he wants to do. instead of encouraging them to stay or going to congress and say lower the corporate taxes. he does not negotiate with congress. he doesn t deal with congress. he doesn t have friends on the other side of the aisle with whom he can get together and structure some kind of a deal. but the worst result of all of this is we ve got $2.1 trillion of american corporate profits which are going to stay over there because if they come back over here, they lose 35% of the federal government. so he stays there. it doesn t do us any good here. let me put up a graphic. let me show you action ladies and gentlemen, where businesses are not putting their money. they re not putting them in the u.a.e. their tax rate is 55%. in the united states we re at 40. japan is 35 with angola and argentina. another graphic with recent big companies that have moved from the united states. bausch & lomb has gone to canada. jim bean has gone to japan. and chiquita banana has gone to ireland. they buy a smaller company in order to move headquarters there. instead of admitting it is bad, the president is blaming consistent. stay here, pay up, pay your fair share. would you allow, for example, a company in illinois to move to texas to take advantage of lower taxes? of course we do. the whole thing, what is the goal of the corporation? to maximum profits and revenue. for shareholders. absolutely. varney and company 11 to 1. thank you. i ll be there. coming up, effective immediately, police in d.c. cannot arrest anyone for legally carrying a gun. the ruling that just logged a major win for the second amendment. this guy arrested for drunk driving on a lawn mower. i do a lot oresearch on angie s list before i do any projects on my home. i love my contractor, and i am so thankful to angie s list for bringing us together. find out why more than two million members count on angie s list. angie s list reviews you can trust. losing your chex mix too easily? deploy the boring potato chip decoy bag. with a variety of tastes and textures, only chex mix has twenty bags of interesting. pick your mix. you are gonna need a wingman. and with my cash back, you are money. forget him. my airline miles will take your game worldwide. what i m really looking for is i got two words for you re-wards. there s got to be better cards than this. 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joining us is the author of emily gets her gun emily miller. emily, good morning to you. good morning, steve. you were shocked that this happened? i was shocked. this case has been dragging in courts for five years. for this decision to come out on a saturday after all this time and then last night we get this i got from an officer source of mine a teletype from the police chief saying effective immediately you can t arrest nen in d.c. just for carrying a gun as long as the gun is legal. it is a shock wave through the city. absolutely. when you look at this narrowly tailored law that they have had on the books in washington and i used to live there. they ve got a million gun control laws on the books, and yet there s so much gun crime, it is just ridiculous down there. but to look at the fact that they have tailored it so specifically and for the judge to come out and say that is patently unconstitutional, now people across the country are going maybe they re waking up there. they actually are. d.c. is the only place in the country that has a has now a total ban on the right to bear arms. that s pretty shocking when you talk about the constitution. illinois was the last state and last year they passed a law allowing for conceal carry. d.c. is the last place. now this judge said, judge skullin in the district court said it is unconstitutional. d.c. has to allow people it carry guns, whether open or concealed. they have to be allowed to carry handguns. now he wrote, according to police last night, anyone who is a nond.c. resident can legally carry in d.c. and d.c. residents, if you have a registered gun like i do, i can carry. if you don t have a registered gun you can still be arrested on the unregistered gun law. you have a gun because, among other reasons, you were the victim of a home invasion but you couldn t have a gun back then. now you can have it going forward. i want to you react, emily, to what the d.c. council chairman put out a statement and said because of the district s unique national security concerns, the right to carry a firearm in public must be more heavily restricted than anyplace else in the nation. four u.s. presidents have been assassinated by gunfire and at least five others have been shot at including ronald reagan who was seriously wounded by mr. hinckley. your reaction? i would say we had this exact gun ban m place when reagan was shot and it didn t stop crazy people. no law will stop a crazy or evil person from shooting. you ve got all those gun laws on the books right now and the gun violence is out of control. emily miller chief investigative reporter for fox five in d.c., thank you. a fun day at an amusement park takes a nasty turn. get this. why wasn t the driver even charged? to meetstion. some of our biggest fans. a look behind the scenes at our fox fan weekend at yankee stadium next. first happy birthday to actress elizabeth berkeley. she is 42. vo: this is the summer. the summer of this. the summer that summers from here on will be compared to. where memories will be forged into the sand. and then hung on a wall for years to come. get out there, with over 50,000 hotels at $150 dollars or less. expedia. find yours. having a perfectly nice day, when out of nowhere a pick-up truck slams into your brand new car. one second it wasn t there and the next second. boom! you ve had your first accident. now you have to make your first claim. so you talk to your insurance company and. boom! you re blindsided for a second time. they won t give you enough money to replace your brand new car. don t those people know you re already shaken up? 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fox fan day is a prescription for good health. they watch us every day and we couldn t do it without them. it is our chance to say thank you and meet them. it s really cool. the connection you get with the fans they ve seen over the years and see what makes fox & friends the number-one cable show on morning news. you want the real news, you better watch fox. we re giving them free food and holy cow are they happy! the fox news fans are the most energetic, dedicated, wonderful, friendly people. we re grateful to them. i know they re grateful for fox. and it s the best day ever. it was the best day ever. absolutely. one of the things about the fox fan is they are true enthusiast of the channel. a lot of them if you ask where their remote was, they wouldn t know because they don t ever change the channel. we had people come from hawaii, sweden, all over. texas, florida, and they are the nicest people. they really are. so kind. planning for tenth annual starts today. all right. you did a great job and megyn did a great job in organizing all of us. it s like corralling cats around here. thank you. 25 minutes before the top of the hour. heather nauert joins us and she s got news of a freak accident. i do. thank you to the viewers, by the way, for baby sitting our kids, elisabeth. you let total strangers baby-sit our kids? they were so nice. we trust them. i have news. it is a tragic story to bring you out of california. actually this one is out of florida. a freak disept on a beach leaves freak accident on a beach leaves a father dead and his daughter in critical condition. there was a single engine plane forced to make an emergency landing on the beach in sarasota. that is when a father and his nine-year-old daughter out for a walk on the beach were hit by that airplane. some witnesses immediately calling police. nothing you see every day, that is for sure. i was not expecting to come to the beach and see a plane on the ground. they were performing c.p.r. on him. it looked like he wasn t bleeding at all. the father was pronounced dead at the scene. his daughter is in intensive care at the hospital and another woman reportedly suffered a heart attack after she witnessed the entire thing. the pilot and that passenger on that plane are both uninjured. the ntsb is investigating the cause of that deadly crash. a desperate search is underway in oregon for a missing mother of two. jennifer huston went out to run errands and never came home. her husband says there is no way she would willingly leave her two little boys just two and six years old. jennifer, i love you very much. the boys love you and the boys miss you terribly. please, if you can, come home. huston was last seen on surveillance video buying gas on thursday night. she was driving a green lexus with the license plate number wxh0-11. anyone with information asked to call police. a frustrated driver plowing down a crowd near san diego s popular festival. take a look at this. [screaming] a 64-year-old woman was sent to the ground with a broken arm. it was the annual zombie walk. here s apparently what happened. that driver reported well, he couldn t cross the street until the crowd was finished. the crowd apparently started pounding on his vehicle. he got a little scared, he put the gas on and went through that crowd. that crowd surrounding it as he waited at an intersection. and that s what happened there. a woman broke her arm after they smashed the windshield. a colorado man arrested on suspicion of d.u.i., that s nothing really out of the ordinary except for the fact that he was driving a lawn mower. police say kenneth welton was on his private bar crawl, driving a lawn mower from one bar to the neck. his license had already been revoked so maybe this was the next best thing for him. he got a d.u.i. i wonder if he was driving or towelly mowing. that s a good question. now to some extreme weather pounding millions in the south. maria molina joins us live. maria, we had thunderstorms here overnight but worse down south. some of the hardest hit states were tennessee and also kentucky. where we have many reports of even possible tornadoes, damaging winds. i want to share this video we shot over the weekend. i was in the southeastern part of kentucky where a lot of storms fired up and very ominous looking clouds started coming down. you could see how close they were to the ground. very tough storm chasing terrain. we have a lot vegetation and trees blocking that visibility but you can see right there that storm system packing a punch out h. we out there. we have reports up into the interior portions of the northeast. today there is a part for more severe weather in southeastern parts of the united states. also heat advisories in effect. temperatures into the the 0 s, heat index values into the triple digits. much cooler in the great lakes. upper 60 s in cleveland. that s very cool for the month of july. maria, thank you very much. i saw a banner yesterday, this is the coolest summer on record so far. i think it s fantastic. it s beautiful. as bad as the winter was, that s how great the summer has been at least in the northeast. a swat team storms a passenger plane. 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doctors now say totally cutting it out of your diet could kill you because fruits and vegetables all contain sugar which would leave you with little other than meat and fat to eat. definitely not very healthy. high fives can sometimes be dangerous. very nice! what was the point of that? but high fives are still better than handshakes because a high five transfers half the germs of a handshake, and even fist bumps they say are cleaner than that, transferring only about 5% of the germs. elisabeth? there you go. let s throw it to brian kilmeade. 15 minutes before the top of the hour. terrifying moments aboard a flight set for panama city last friday. watch. swat teams storm the plane after an emergency landing when a passenger allegedly made a bomb threat. that is the recent scare we had in the skies. two deadly crashes blamed on severe storms leading us to wonder are the skies still safe to fly. what s the percentage in reality. here to offer tips is aviation expert, sal lingonia. first off, domestically we re perfect. when we see what s happening with this canada situation, algeria situation, malaysian plans what do you think? airspaces are not created equal. when i ask when is the last crash of a commercial airline of a commercial aircraft of the united states, it was 2009, that buffalo crash. it s not the same thing when you fly in other countries. africa, for example, much worse. they account for only 3% of the flights and about one-fifth of the air crashes. we saw the algeria plane. that was weather-related. weather is bad, you can t control it and sometimes you can t predict it, as we know. if you are a flier and you re about to get on a plane, gukd to flight aware you could go tom and gn inside track on the weather? that would help you if you want to know what the weather was yesterday and that will problem help today. most airplanes will take extreme weather. they are built under f.a.a. certification, a very strict standard. they can take the heavy rain and absorb the lightning strikes? correct. if you re in the united states you know where that heavy rain is. you want to stay away from thunderstorms and that is probably what happened in algeria. you know where they are here in the united states because we have radar every place. not so in these other countries. i understand when it comes to turbulence, we can only predict turbulence? we have turbulence reports that come out of the national weather service every single day. before any pilot flies, whether a short trip or long one, they look at that because that will impact what the comfort of their passengers are. a lot of people get upset the plane is going to be late but they re delaying because of a flight. you re saying if you are a passenger, you can decide the weather doesn t feel right, i don t want to take the risk, i m not getting on. that is something we can decide to do, we all can t get our money back? that is true. that is up to the carrier whether they give you your money back or not. for the most part with domestic carriers you re going to fly in safe weather in safe conditions. their standards are higher than the f.a.a. makes them do. this is what i ve lerpd over the last six months, number one, the flight pattern matters, the weather matters. i don t know if it is possible but i d like to know what my pilots have been up to. you look at the malaysian pilots, is there any way we can do a background check on the pilot we re going to have? no simple way of doing that. we know for the most part the airlines do a pretty good job of weeding out bad eggs in their area. when we fly foreign airlines we don t know for sure we re up to the same standards as the united states. just to check out your carrier and know if it s domestic the odds are great that you re going to be fine. 12 minutes before the top of the hour. coming up straight ahead, spiderman unhinged. what caused this costume-clad thug to flip out on police at times square. these guys got to get off the costumes and get out of there. apple doesn t need your permission to help itself to your contacts, photos, any personal data. what you need to know to protect your on-line stuff. when la quinta.com sends sales rep steve hatfield the ready for you alert, the second his room is ready. you know what he brings? any questions? can i get an a, steve? yes! three a s! he brings his a-game! the ready for you alert, only at laquinta.com! searching with devotion for a snack that isn t lame but this. takes my breath away it can help your business save money. false. the truth is when you compare our fastest internet to the fastest dsl from the phone company, comcast business gives you more for your money. why pay more for less? 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that s not freedom. mobil would realize that and say, let s jack up the price for curt and elisabeth when they come in for gas. when it comes to phone, that s what people have been dealing with, no competition in termination of prices and your hands are tied. less competition, exactly. and now you re going to have the choice. they can no longer tell you you can get gas at one station. you can get phone service with your cell phone anywhere you want. and when we travel abroad, we ll be able to use our phone with other services there that were restricted, and imagine this, tens of thousands of cell phones that would otherwise end up in the landfills are going to be able to stay alive. your phone, perfectly good, should be able to use another service. instead of us having to throw it out, we re going to be able to keep that. a new frontier here. mainly freedom of phone and saving money. apple is extracting information, has the capacity to extract information from your phone and we didn t know this? we re talking about a forensic analyst who is really good with how the inside of a iphone works. apple has been keeping a secret. they haven t revealed to us, the 600 million iphone users, that, in fact, they have created a back door or a mechanism that circumvents them to get to your personal data. it doesn t mean they re exploiting it or doesn t mean the phone is not secure. it simply means there is something very suspicious here. can you opt out of this? you can not opt out of it. the only way out of it is to completely erase your phone, making it useless and you re then going to get it again probably when you plug in your phone to a trusted source. you re going to recreate that pairing to a trusted source which would allow access. what does this mean? no, there is no proof yet. but the nsa has used this back door to get your personal information. but there is actually a process that law enforcement has to follow that apple has provided to them and this potentially could be one of those channels to fulfill a request for the government to look at information on your phone. should they have told us about it? i think so. is there more to this? they claim this is simply diagnostic tool mechanisms put in place. it s will for troubleshooting. why didn t they let everybody know if it was simply that? by the way, it s not just that. it actually has been looked at further and another analyst said no, no. this is not for diagnostics. this is personal data. so apple needs to come clean. we re going to stay on this. come back more. thanks. coming up, americans wish they voted for mitt romney. the brand-new poll that shows the state of the country. so now what? donald trump, top of the hour on that. and the gift you should never, ever buy for a wedding. ever. what about that? i ll go all day. place setting, crystal tell me ware which they ll probably never use hey pal? you ready? can you pick me up at 6:30? ah. 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they set it they brought a crock pot with wi-fi. isn t that fantastic? it is. i need that. you should talk to them. the crock pot could get more heavenly. he works here. find out the very latest on etiquette and right gifts to buy shortly. and heather is here. you re smiling because we know the crock pot is our bff. you and i love them. i do have breaking news to bring you and serious news this morning. a fox news alert. a day at the beach ends in panic and chaos when a rare thunderstorm hits southern california. lightning striking venice beach. do you know how crowded that is? that lightning killed a 20-year-old man and injured more than a dozen other people. at least two of the victims were in the water during the lightning strike. witnesses recording this as lifeguards pulled one person to show. beach goers say the storm took them completely by surprise. all of a sudden there is a big flash of light and a boom and it felt like someone punched me in the back of the head. it sounded like a sonic boom. it literally shook the building, shook us. that same storm hit catalina island where a golfer was struck by lightning. he s expected to be okay. two americans were helping combat an outbreak of the deadly ebola virus are now infected with the disease. a volunteer from north carolina is the second american to come down with the virus. she works at the same hospital where dr. brantley from texas also contracted the highly contagious disease. that outbreak has spread to three west african countries, killing more than 670 people so far. it kills about 62% of those who are infected. here at home, real chaos in a keith urban concert. firefighters and security guards spent their night trying to corral some drunken country music fans. ambulances taking 22 people to the hospital in mansfield, massachusetts. about 50 others were arrested for intoxication. this happening at the infinity center. a former homeless man is turning to the president for some help with his college tuition. jesse granger is selling this letter he received from president obama in 2011 for $9,500. granger says he left home at 17, but his late adopted mother always said to him that education is the most important thing. the president in the letter also talking about the importance of that. jesse says he hopes to use the money he gets from selling the letter to help him finish his degree at winthrop university. i believe that s in south carolina. those are your headlines. thank you very much. by the way, on line you can buy a wi-fi crock pot for $89. wow. maybe that s something that donald trump will put in his brand-new washington hotel. maybe. we could ask him. and i believe it s monday, which means it s donald trump time. welcome, mr. trump. good morning. let s talk about something that s still festering and that s the problem at our border. what s your take on what mayor rahm emanuel said, give me your illegals. we ll take them. there are pockets in chicago that are a cass taas strovey, all of the shootings. there are certain areas of chicago. it s disgraceful. 23 over the weekend alone. yeah. it s disgraceful. but chicago is a place i happen to love. i think it s great. and they got a lot of problems. this is not the way that you re going to solve the problem. people are coming into the country. they have disease. they have lots of other situations going on and very interestingly, in many cases, they don t speak english and they don t speak spanish. they have indian dialect. we don t have anybody that can speak that language. it s languages that we don t know in this country and we re not equipped to handle. now we re supposed to educate everybody. this is madness. what s going on in this country is madness. it sure is. to add to the violence there, 23 shootings over the weekend, 220 reported in the summer there. we just are wondering how this is going to solve the problem and then we re hearing governors across the country are calling on the president to lead while this is happening, now that s being dumped into the states. and these governors don t even know it. we just saw governor from tennessee who wrote a letter to the president saying not only was our state not informed prior to any of the children being brought here, says being contacted and has ice is being contacted and they have no information other than what s on the web site. he s saying we didn t even know they were here. 760 illegal minors are here now and we had no idea until we went on the web site for hhs? it is very sad. they re being spread all over the country. not only don t the governors know, nobody knows they re there. ultimately, you re never going to be able to get them back to where they re from. our country can t handle it. we can t do it. whether it s the problems of infectious diseases, in some cases, very, very infectious diseases. our country can t handle this. we have no country. we have no borders. we have no anything. so something has to take place. it has to take place fast. they re being spread all over the country and they re never going to be returned. you know what? they re not telling anybody for the most part, mr. trump, in the localities because we know the dirty little secret, if you drop 1,000 kids into a state, come september, for example n new jersey, those 1,000 kids will end up going to school. who pays for that? the property owners of the state of new jersey. it really does seem like it cannot be this stupid. it just can t be this stupid. it must be a concerted effort to get these kids into the system, add them into the system. later on they ll become citizens and they ll vote democratic. this has to be some kind of a concerted effort by the president to let people come into the country because it s not that tough. somebody asked me, what would i do? i d call mexico and say if you don t stop this from happening mexico is like the highway right into this country. and you can not get into mexico. you can not become a citizen of mexico. you can not come into the country. but in this case, they re letting them walk right through mexico, right into our doorway and they want them out fast, by the way. get out fast. we have such power over mexico, we don t use it. we had a productive meeting with them last week, we heard. yeah, right. we have a marine there who has been in prison for a long, long time now and no power when it comes to getting his release. he s the only one from mexico that cannot get into our country. amazing thing. they re treating him badly. they re beating the hell out of him in prison. they re treating him badly. unlike our traitor, when we gave five killers, five real enemies of the state, bergdahl, unlike him, this guy was a very solid citizen as a soldier. so it s really crazy. but what we do is you stop it by telling mexico, we re not doing business with you anymore. we support mexico. we have so many companies in mexico. we give them tax advantages to build companies in mexico. look, our country is getting to a point where tear not going to be able to come back. you look at our country. madeline albright said yesterday, you look around the world, things are a mess. you got the ukraine, gaza, the southern invasion. perhaps, mr. trump, that is why in a brand-new poll, americans wish essentially they would have elected mitt romney. brand-new poll out, if the election for two years ago were held today, mitt romney would win in a landslide essentially. of course, it s meaningless because they re not really voting for president again in 2014 for 2012. but it is indicative of the trouble that this president is in. the president is doing a terrible job. he s a terrible president. the country is going down. we re a laughing stock all over the world. you look at what s happened to the world under our watch. the whole world is exploding. whether it was the fact that we broke up iraq, which was one of the dumbest things ever. you look at you know, whether you like saddam hussein or not, he used to kill terrorists. he would kill terrorists. there were very few of them in iraq. this is now a breeding ground. this is called the harvard of terrorism. go to iraq. you learn all about it. perhaps the fact that that all blew up it showed everyone else they could do the same thing. the world has never, ever been in a position like that. it s a tinderbox. one big tinderbox. the problem we have is weapons are getting more and more dangerous, more and more horrible and we ve never had a thing like that before. and a lot of it s the power of the weaponry. also giving money to the palestinians to blow themselves up in israel and invading other nations and pretty much a menace of the middle east. but i got to bring something else kind of exciting. next to the white house for you, you broke ground with gold shovels. we re doing a fantastic job giving lots of jobs. we re building at the old post office, which is the best location in washington, d.c., right smack in the middle of pennsylvania avenue, between the white house and congress. we have the most magnificent building in washington. truly one of the great buildings in washington. we re going to turn that into one of the great hotels of the world. we start construction on monday of next week. it s going to be very, very exciting. we had a ground breaking there. everybody was there. it s going to be a very exciting development. again, a lot of jobs are going to be used for building and for operating the hotel and it s going to be truly because of the infrastructure, because of what we re doing and we will have all of those things that you mentioned, and more. we ll have things they don t even know about. in that world, things are coming along so quickly, the world of the internet, that you don t even know about them now. including the wi-fi crock pot. the funny thing, in two years, 18 months when we open that, will be obsolete. they ll have something else. 2016 is when it s supposed to open. it will open 2016. it will open june of 2016. i ve always said sometime prior to november, but we should be able to do that november being a very important month. if you want, we ll supervise the construction. i understand. november being maybe the most important month in this country in many, many years, frankly. we are going to need somebody truly great to come in and run this country because we don t have that now. donald trump, who will have at least one address in washington, d.c. in 2016, we thank you for joining us live today on this monday. thank you very much. it s dozen minutes after the top of the hour. coming up, just days before a five-week recess, congress attempting a last-ditch effort to take action on our southern border. what s the holdup? 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first of all, the main thing is we want to have a quicker hearing with all due process, with all legal protection, but instead of waiting two, three, four, five years for a hearing, we want to put this individual before a judge, a judge will make that decision whether that individual stays or goes. they can have an attorney if they want to bring an attorney. that s one. change the 2008 law, right, that was meant to stop sexual trafficking, but in turn has been misinterpreted. you want to change that? that s correct. if you think about it, why is it that the smugglers they have found a loophole in the 2008 law. this law, what we want to do, do a very surgical change. every protection, all the due process is kept, except we eliminate a loophole in the 2008 that the smugglers have found a way to make millions and millions of dollars every month. dan pheiffer comes out and he says, the cornyn-cuellar plan does not meet white house standards of deferring might abrasion while protecting asylum. first of all, keep in mind that president obama brought this idea back in june 30 when he sent a letter saying i need money and i need a policy change. secretary johnson has been very, very good. he has said we need the resources and we need the policy change of 2008. in fact, when i asked him about this proposal, he said, quote, henry, we re on the same page. so when the white house says it doesn t meet the standards, well, we re using the standards they suggested to us, and if they have a better idea, talk to us. exactly. exactly. if he wants to get something done. so you need money to speed up the process to get these kids back home where they belong. critics say it could be a dangerous situation. number two, a lot of democrats don t want to change this 2008 law and that s the main problem. you know, it s unfortunate. but i think we ll get more democrats. when the vote comes on the floor, we will get democrats. right now the only ones we have are blue dogs that some of the blue dogs have signed on. number two, is keep in mind that even hillary clinton has suggested she says she s open to the 2008 law cause she understands we have to have not only resources, but we have to change that loophole and take the incentive out that the smugglers have taken advantage of. thanks so much. coming up straight ahead, spiderman unhinged. what caused this costume-clad thug to flip out on police in times square? 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apparently that s what the new york times thinks. the newspaper is now going full throttle to legalize pot. according to an editorial. but would a move like this put drugs in the hands of more kids? former drug czar john walter joins us now from our dc bureau. good morning to you. good morning. so the new york times on the editorial page yesterday said it s time to repeal it. it s essentially been a prohibition. i m gog read an excerpt. they write, it s been more than 40 years since congress passed the current ban on marijuana. inflicting great harm on society just to prohibit a substance far less dangerous than alcohol. the federal government should repeal a ban on marijuana. what do you say? pretty stupid. they act like they live on another planet. more people are in treatment for marijuana than all other illegal drugs combined. more kids, as teen-agers, are treated for marijuana than alcoholism. we re not keeping it out of the hands of kids and explode ago substance where we have alcohol and tobacco, which is the single biggest cause of illness and death that s preventible, adding a third substance this is the way they treat environmental toxins. that s not the way they treat things that treat the health of america. all of the science, you covered it at fox, all the science, monthly, is showing more risk at a time when science is telling us one thing, the new york times wants to act like it s time to be ruled by cheech and chong. insane. it is insane. you re talking about the science. you have been on this program talking about the science. it is proven that pot makes you dumb. yeah. steady use, especially as you start as late teens, now can reduce i.q. by eight points, which is not just eight points. if you had normal i.q., you drop by a whole fifth and your capacity to compete. when we want to be competitive, we want to be good to our children, how do we lower their i.q. on a wide scale? to say you re going to keep this out of the hands of kids, look what s going on in denver. disaster. people cannot keep it out of the hands of kids. it s being marketed to kids, in high potencies. people are scared. we re going to try to help them. but the administration is utterly irresponsible and it s just horrifying to the people who live there. regarding the experiment, the legal experiment that s going on out in colorado, during the commercial break we were talking about what s going on out there regarding the legal use of marijuana. you had a jaw-dropping statement regarding kids sending their kids to school are afraid of what? well, parents cannot send food or drink with their children. i met with some of the parents in suburban denver because of the concentrates, because of the things that can be put in food, being marketed in fruit juice, brownies, so kids cannot bring any food or drink to school a woman i met with, parent, all consumables at school have to be prepared under the supervision of school officials to prevent kids from being poisoned. why would we do this to our children? why to our community? it doesn t stay contained. 40 states have been recipients by law enforcement cases of colorado-made marijuana. when your neighbor does this, you re doing it. so this is not an experiment. this is a wholesale failure to enforce the law by president obama. speaking of presidents, the president of our country met with the president of honduras over the last couple of days and the president of hon occur has came out and said, look, i have a very violent country. that s kind of his fault. but he also said, the united states is responsible for this crisis on your southern border because americans use too many of our drugs. what do you think about that? well, this is not cooperation. this is a failure to recognize responsibility, as you point out. this is a country that s riddled with corruption. i hope the new president will step up. the united states asked for extradition of key and bad actors there. they haven t done it. we ve asked for the ratification of a treaty to help us with interdiction, they haven t done it. we ve tried to provide aid i do blame president obama for not being more aggressive, but you have to engage with a country that wants to help. we did this in colombia. cocaine is down over 50%. honduras needs help, but you have to have hondurans at the front line. john walter used to be the drug czar for george w. bush. thank you for joining us today. thanks. coming up, a soldier s kids and pregnant wife were kicked to the curb and their house demolished while he were deployed because of a building code violation? 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they tore down his house. a federal judge recently ruled that that county violated federal law. a trial is set for september to decide how much that soldier is owed. if you believe this study, it ought to be smart wife, happy life. researchers found that today s husbands are the first generation to find wives with an equal or better education threatening. not only are men less worried about being bread winners, but the rise of a smarter woman is making marriages stronger. what to you think of that? those are your headlines. i m the first to say, my wife is a lot smarter than me. she picked you. i ll be the second to say your wife is smarter than you. i think elisabeth would make that third. a lot smarter. a wise note. all right. extreme weather hounded millions in the southern part of the united states. possible twisters ripping through tennessee. entire neighborhoods just like this one in speedwell, reduced to rubble. in lexington, kentucky, tossing trees everywhere. one smashing into the back seat of a car. thousands now waking up in the dark. maria molina has been doing some storm chasing on the weekend and joins us live from 48th and sixth avenue. good morning. that s right. i was in kentucky yesterday. we saw several funnel clouds and some strong storms that later went on to produce some possible tornadoes in parts of tennessee and all of that damage that you just saw on your screen. but today that same storm system is on the move and there is a risk for more severe weather stretching from parts of mississippi into the carolinas and the risk out here today is going to be large hail, damaging winds, and isolated tornadoes yet again today. the other concerns are hot temperatures and a lot of humidity. we have a number of heat advisories. it could be as hot as 112 degrees. that storm system responsible, by the way, for more than 350 reports of severe weather stretching from tennessee up into the northeast has produced a big cooldown now across portions of the great lakes. high temperatures well below average. could be setting record lows by early tomorrow morning. tonight it will be a chilly one across parts of the great lakes. take a look at cleveland. the high there forecast to be 67 degrees. low 70s in chicago. let s head back inside. thank you very much. time magazine has a great item where they talk about whether it s a sign of the time or health consciousness or for whatever reason, there are things that americans have historically bought a lot of that suddenly we re not buying so much of. for instance, did you realize in the last four-week period, cereal sales are down 7% because a lot of people are starting their day with yogurt or fast food or they want more protein. they don t want cereal. in terms of sales, gum is down. it turns out people look like big cows chewing cud and they re tired of it. no, it s because they re buying mints and candy. that, too. but it s true, they do look terrible when they do it. gun sales have also begun down. razors are down right now because the beards were back. so razors kind of made a comeback originally. but then the beards came back, razors were down. but marketers now are trying to improve man scaping techniques. way to go, duck dynasty. cupcake sales are down. crumbs closed 65 stores last week. the last item, for 86 years, they ve been canning pasta. chef boy ardee. sales are down. people are look forother stuff. overall, we re cutting down bread, aware of sugar, diet sodas taking a hit. different types of flavored water and energy drinks. convertibles kind of taking a hit. yeah. since 2004, they ve been falling off a cliff. i still drive mine because i m having my mid life crisis. so anyway, what things have you stopped buying and do you agree with that list? 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most restaurants fail. most restaurants don t work. they go out of business. they work on very thin margins. most people lose money. they have the proceeds pentecost of a 50% chance of not making it. on top of that, we re getting these ideas now, part-time workers should have certain rights. union workers. these restaurant workers and minimum wage workers, somehow their civil rights are being trampled on. yeah. whatever happened to the country that talked about the maximum? like sky is the limit. we are quibbling over things where it s really about creating divisiveness. it s not economic solution to anything. by the way, it still would be the minimum wage. i think people out there want to think about maximum. what do those numbers mean? here are the states that increased minimum wage, hawaii, maryland, massachusetts, vermont, connecticut, washington, d.c. well, you re talking $15. most people watching this show, their haul househead median income is the same as 1989. you re talking about doubling the salary for the lowest skill sets out there. you re talking about really encouraging people or enabling people not to better themselves. hey, why should i go to college at night if i m going to get a raise from 7 to $15? 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(shuuuuuuuh..zzzzzzzz.de ee.dong.shuuuhh.) hello? not all credit report sites are equal. classic. experian.com members get personalized help plus fraud resolution support. join now at experian.com. with enrollment in experian credit tracker. good morning. today is monday, july 28. i m elisabeth hasselbeck. a fox news alert. a big flash of light and a boom and it felt like someone punched me in the back of the head. it sounded like a sonic boom. a day at the beach turns deadly when a rare massive lightning bolt strikes more than a dozen people. a shocking confession from hillary. i am proud to be an american. when i go to sub saharan africa and people say, i want to thank president bush and the united states for george w. bush makes hillary proud to be an american? we re going to talk to bret baier about that in about 60 seconds. somewhere in texas george bush just collapsed. ever fall asleep with your cell phone? imagine waking up and seeing this? the phone that burned a hole in the pillow. warning, kids. it could happen to you. mornings are better with friends. i m donnie osmond. you re watching fox & friends . welcome aboard to our montel cast telecast. we turn to bret baier. 6:00 p.m. tonight, good morning to you. good morning. the people in that big white round building behind you, they must be exhausted. they got another vacation coming up starting on thursday. i think five weeks of recess. nothing has been done so far regarding this invasion on our southern border. we hear so much about the do nothing congress, but the brand-new whip on the republican side, he says he s not going anywhere. hear this first and then bret baier s take. the president s been awol from the very beginning. the president has a lot of time on his schedule to secure fund-raisers. he has no time to secure the border. he has not taken his job seriously in this regard. the house is willing to lead. 89 house laid out the house laid out what we ll do to solve this problem. the president wants to sit back and play politics. he s flying around the country doing fund-raisers. he doesn t have time to come and work with congress. the house can pass something, but without the senate, nothing. yeah. that s true. i think chris wallace pressed congressman scalise whether they would extend and not take their vacation and he wouldn t get there. the hope is that they can come to some deal on this supplemental and it will be much scaled down money wise. but the main thing is change the language as we ve talked about of the 2008 law that would enable them to speed up the deportation process for the central american kids. that could happen this week before the end of the week. you re right, five weeks recess. that s not a bad deal. they re going to get a v.a. deal, on paper it seems like it s a bipartisan agreement. they also have to come up with some type of funding on the highway bill. when it comes to this 2008 bill, it s democrats who don t want to change it. republicans are in to changing that, which is kind of odd this time. yeah, it is. especially since the administration at first came out and said they were open to and wanted to see that law changed, the specific law and the wording. so there is this pushback. the thought is that they can get around it. they can get through it before the end of the week. if they don t, the question then will be to congressman scalise and others, are you going to stick around? are you going to wait until it gets resolved? george wills said this when it comes to deportation. we have 3141 counties in this country. that would be 20 per county. the idea we can t assimilate these eight-year-old criminals with their teddy bears is preposterous. so that s something you don t hear from many conservatives on television, bret. he is suggesting with these kids, don t deport them. make them americans. just spread them around. yeah. you do hear that from some. brit hume has said something similar. and others. but i guess there are a lot of people, especially along the border towns, that want to know where the line is drawn. they want to know where the end of that is and they also want to know that the line that s established of people who are in line to get citizenship is respected. what about governors aren t even prepared to have this happen. they re finding out on line that 760 in the case of tennessee, the governor there found out that there were 760 of these kids dumped there unbeknownst to him. this is the governor there, not only was our state not informed prior to any of the children being brought there, still not been contacted and have no information about these individuals or their sponsors other than what was posted on the hhs web site and subsequently reported in the media. they re being caught offguard. they don t know if the kids had their immunization, if their sponsors have been legal with paperwork. they have no information and he has 760 kids there. over 30,000 of these children this year alone have been placed into the hands of states from the federal government. what is going to be done? this is the most amazing part of this story, that this is not getting more outrage, more coverage. this isn t just republican governors speaking out. there are democratic governors in similar situations finding out that there are kids being transferred to their state and they didn t know about it. and originally when asked about this, the white house press secretary, josh earnest said it was a matter of privacy for those children. yeah. for the central american kids. whoever they are. that really was spell binding because it s not true. it s not true and we care about their rights more than the rights of americans. i m curious to see if the president will wait for vacation and start issuing executive orders addressing it the way he wants. speaking of the president, what did you think of this poll out when americans were asked, who would they vote for if the vote was today. romney gets 53%. the president, 48. president romney hasn t had to make a decision in two years. president obama has made a few. that has a lot to do with it. that surprise you? no. the president s approval rating has taken a dive, as you ve seen all these things around the world. you ve seen a lot of sound bites about how mitt romney said that russia was the number one geopolitical foe in the wake of the russian ukraine situation. you ve seen a lot of looking back. you re right. mitt romney is not making decisions day-to-day. but it s still an interesting poll if you look at all the things that have been said about that race since then. hillary beats mitt romney head to head in the same poll. yeah. not surprising either. despite a little bump in the road with the book launch has managed to hold up her favorability rating. but it does show you the voter dissatisfaction with our current president. meanwhile, i want you to listen to here is hillary clinton talking about george w. bush and how he made her proud to be an american. george w. bush is very popular in sub saharan africa. why? because of the president s emergency program for aids relief. whether you agree or disagree with a lot of what else he did and i disagree with a lot of it, i am proud to be an american when i go to sub saharan africa and people say, i want to thank president bush and the united states for helping us fight hiv aids. she makes a good point. george bush did a lot regarding hiv aids in africa. but what s going on there? is she, a, proud to be an american because of george bush, or b, trying to distance herself from her former works barak obama? i think it s a combination. you have to take her at her word. there were a lot of democrats who praised the efforts of president bush in africa and what was done there, a lot of people don t even remember. changed the entire perspective of the u.s. in africa. you have bono and others who have spoken out about president bush s efforts throughout that. it often gets overlooked. too, she is on this crusade to say america needs o do a better job around the world of talking about itself and promoting its own values and in essence, criticizing the current administration for not doing that and making the wrong decisions again and again. so it is a subtle dig, but probably warranted praise that she talked about before. perhaps a strategic reachout as some describe president obama s methods as retreat from the globe. bret, we re going to be watching you ten hours from right now. have a great day. we ll see you later. heather nauert is here. you have some headlines. good morning. there is wild weather all across the country. particularly california. a day at the beach ending in panic and chaos when a rare thunderstorm hits southern california. lightning striking venice beach, killing a 20-year-old man and injuring more than a dozen others. at least two victims were in the water during this strike. witnesses recording it as lifeguards pull one person to shore. beach goers say the storm took them completely by surprise. it was an incredibly loud flash, like a bomb went off. people that were just frightened for their lives. people running. people looking up in the air. really scary. that same storm hit catalina island where a golfer was struck by lightning and is expected to be okay. a freak accident on a florida beach leaves a father dead and his daughter in critical condition this morning. a single engine plane was forced to make an emergency landing on a beach in sarasota. that s when 36-year-old man and his nine-year-old daughter who were just out for a walk were hit by that airplane, stunned witnesses immediately called police. nothing you see every day, that s for sure. i was not expecting to come to the beach and see a plane on the ground. they were performing cpr on him. he had blood on his face. it looked like he wasn t breathing at all. he was pronounced dead at the scene. his daughter is hanging on for life at the hospital this morning. another woman reportedly suffered a heart attack after she witnessed that incident. the pilot and passenger on board that plane are both uninjured. the ntsb is investigating the cause of that crash. do you remember when those three daredevils jumped off the new world trade center building in manhattan last fall? okay. now their lawyer has a stunt of his own. he s doing this for his clients. he jumped out of a plane with them. the attorney and them going sky diving for research, making the jump in new jersey, saying he hopes it will help their cause. the suspects face several charges, including felony burglary. and listen to this one, parents and teen-agers, this is exactly why you should never sleep with your cell phone. a texas teen-ager woke up after she smelled something burning. it turns out it was her samsung galaxy s 4. it was on fire and it was underneath her pillow. i didn t think much of it. i went back to sleep and then i woke up again, it was more prominent. we have a reasonable expectation that the products we buy will be safe. the girl s dad says he suspects the phone overheated and that caused the battery to swell and start on fire. a spokesperson for samsung says their products are safe and pointed out that the battery inside that phone was one of those replace ams and not a part of the original unit. by the way, important to read the fine print on these things. apparently samsung says do not cover these with any bedding or heavy she had it under her pillow! now we know. i have never read a warning, ever. i know. now we know not to do that. i m always using electrical devices in the bathtub. never read the warning. think the invasion of illegals coming into our country just hits border states? think again. the sheriff who has been fighting this for years and is even on a cartel s hit list joins us live next. that s a list you don t want to be on. and here is what not to do if you ever encounter a crocodile. don t really know what he was thinking. we ll try to find out. what s in your wallet? padvil pm gives you the healingu at nsleep you need, it. helping you fall asleep and stay asleep so your body can heal as you rest. advil pm. for a healing night s sleep. ohio might be a long way from the mexican border. but the illegal immigration crisis is hitting there, too. one sheriff is calling on the president to do something about it. in a letter to the white house, he writes this: our nation s current immigration crisis is a direct result of our country s inability to secure our border. it will only result in another failed immigration plan. please secure the border now. the man who wrote that letter joins us. the sheriff of butler county in ohio, richard k. jones. sheriff, this is not the first letter you wrote. you also wrote to mexico. i have wrote a letter to mexico. i wrote a letter to president bush. this has been a problem, it s been ongoing with both parties, republican and democrat. we can t get any resolve. we re a long way from the border. we border canada by water. but we don t have an issue with canada. we have an issue with the people coming from mexico, bringing their kids, bringing the adults, bringing the drugs, and it s actually killing our communities. when you wrote that letter to mexico, somehow the drug cartels got word on it and you got alerted by the f.b.i., you re on their hit list. i was told by the f.b.i. i was one of three sheriffs 3200 sheriffs in the united states that i was on a hit list. but you re not going to back down cause here you are that was in 2007. here you are in 2014 saying the same thing. people watching this and saying oh, come on, sheriff. have a heart. these are kids who need a break. what s your reaction? it s pretty simple. i have homeless kids with their families here in my own community that were born here and my idea is, hey, send aid back to the country that they re coming from, get them some food. get them to stay in their countries. we ve got enough issues here. we ve got kids that are born in these hospitals to the illegals that we can t afford to pay for. a third of the hospitals, the births here, just in our community, are born for free. and they re illegals having these children and then the ones that are coming over to our school system in ohio we have a school system to where you it s a ballot issue. it s a property tax. we can t pass school levees here. if they do pass or fail, it s within a 50 vet or 200 vote radius. if you don t get the extra money, but you have the extra kids who are illegal immigrants, illegal alien, then every kid in ohio gets less? every kid gets less. imagine being in a school and you have a classroom with 25 or 30 students, then you have an interpreter for each one of these kids that are sitting can you imagine the disruption when the teacher, the professor is doing the instruction, the interpreter has to do the interpretation. who pays for that? that comes out of these school systems. i talked to the school people that work in these schools off the record. they said it s a total disruption. it comes out of the money that they don t have and it s killing our system here. sheriff, you ve been speaking out for a while. hopefully people will begin to listen because we re at a crisis point and from the schools to the gangs, it all comes back on your desk. sheriff richard k. jones, butler county, ohio, thanks so much. thank you. coming up straight ahead, we change gears. it was supposed to be a fun zombie walk until a frustrated driver plowed through. so why wasn t the driver charged? we ll explain. it s one of the most sought after jobs, driving the wiener mobile across the country. everybody fantasized about driving it. why do so many people want to do it? i m going to go behind the wheel to find out, i believe, if they put enough gas in it. r studied day and night for her driver s test. secretly inside, you hoped she wouldn t pass. the thought of your baby girl driving around all by herself was. you just weren t ready. but she did pass. cause she s your baby girl. and now you re proud. a bundle of nerves proud. but proud. get a discount when you add a newly-licensed teen to your liberty mutual insurance policy. call to learn about our whole range of life event discounts. newlywed discount. new college graduate and retiree discounts. you could even get a discount when you add a car. call liberty mutual for a free quote today at see car insurance in a whole new light. liberty mutual insurance. we got quick headlines for you. the terrorist group boko haram attacking a small town in camaroon, killing three people and kidnapping the wife of the vice prime minister. camaroon sent 1,000 troops to battle the islamist militants after they kidnapped nearly 300 school girls back in april. malaysian airlines planning a name change and new route plans following the shootdown of mh 17 in the disappearance of a plane over the southern indian ocean. this as united nations officials say the missile attack on flight 17 could be considered a war crime. united states accusing pro-russian rebels of using a missile system supplied by russia. that s the news. outside to elisabeth. that is right: imagine graduating from college like matt and alex who are sitting next to me and telling your going to be driving the oscar myer mobil. you are going to see why these kids are treated like rock stars almost everywhere they go. take a look. oh, i d love to be an oscar mayer wiener . i think the reaction we get is pure joy. people don t really understand why we re here with the 27-foot long hot dog. but they know it s fun and funny and it s there to make their day. when you re driving a 27-foot hot dog on wheels, you re bound to get noticed. our first drive from madison, wisconsin, to cleveland, ohio. i switched driving. we were getting on chicago highway and i was scared already, i m getting over in traffic and someone lays on her horn and i m terrified. i didn t know what to do. this is my first drive. i look over, and she s just waving, two hands. all she wanted to do was wave at the driver. i was like, this is cool. the vehicle changed a lot over the years. in the early days, they were basically sweatboxes with barely enough room for two people. the sleek modern version sleeps six comfortably and equipped with all the modern conveniences. it s not something you see every day. we have six traveling the country. even if you ve seen it before. when it comes down your neighborhood street, how can you not smile? the wiener mobile is an american icon. and whether you re eight or 80, it seems like everybody can have a connection with the wiener mobile. they started making the connections when it hit the roads of chicago in 1936. it was sort of the brainchild of carl myer, the nephew of oscar myer. can you imagine that conversation? he walks into uncle oscar and says i have this idea for a giant hot dog on wheels. it may seem old school, but it s more relevant and more effective today than it may have been ever. that may be true, with each stop, people record the event on their smart phones. many go on to post the experience on social media sites. oscar myer has taken notice. fans can now track the hot dog s every move with the company s new wiener mobile app. technology is awesome. it allows us to connect in so many ways that we couldn t anticipate before. nothing beats that face-to-face, the connection you establish as humans together. no tablet, no smart phone can beat that. the big winners in this exchange are the hot doggers. over 1200 candidates apply for only 12 brand ambassador spots. after two weeks at the company s training school, they are ready to drive these big rigs around the country. hot dog high, you re going to be kind of a mini celebrity on the road. and i m sure it s for the wiener mobile. but you feel kind of special when driving it and waving back. while the first job may come as a shock to some parents, one look at this thing up close and somehow people get it. on my first drive out of hot dog high, it was on father s day. i got to stop home and drive the wiener mobile to my house in the driveway, got to see my dad on father s day. i don t think my dad has ever been more proud of me. hot doggers work six months with one partner before switching teams and working another six months with someone else. the experience builds life long connections. you learn how to be more patient and not hold grudges. i know my first partner, alex and i became best friends. i might be short with her in the beginning. but by the end, she knew how to judge me. i knew how to judge her. it s a skill i don t know if i d pick up in a regular job. hot doggers build friends for life. these are friends that they ve gone through thick and thin with and that they ll be connected to for life. people will come up to our events, and tell oscar myer thank you for keeping this around. there are so few things from their youth. people say, do you know what this is? this is the wiener mobile. i go, yeah, i get to drive it. i understand how cool this is. this is when i realize this is like the iconic oscar mayer wiener mobile. steve, i told you we would get one of the hottest jobs. we re joined by steven, who you saw in the piece. i know you finished your one-year tour. what s the craziest thing that s ever happened to you while in the wiener mobile? we had a competition last summer and one of the challenges was to get someone to get a tattoo of the wiener mobile. we found a 75-year-old lady in wisconsin to get a tattoo of the wiener mobile on her and she got it on her back of her ankle. as much fun as we had, she said it was one of the best things of her life and she bought use steak dinner afterward. a pleasure to get to know you. you have a fun group here. thank you. thank you. next time my america will head to flushing meadows and the u.s. open. we ll give you a behind the scenes look at another interesting job. this time you re going to get on the side line and see what it takes to become a ball person at the u.s. open on the next my america. coming up, dozens of fans at a keith urban concert sent to the hospital. even more arrested. what the heck happened? we have all the details for you and this weekend, we got to meet some of the biggest fox fans out there behind the scenes of fox fan weekend at the ballpark, coming up next. i m going to take a ride in this wiener mobile. honey, look i got one to land. uh-huh. (vo) there s good more. honey, look at all these smart rewards points verizon just gave me. ooh, you got a buddy. i m like a statue. i just signed up and, boom, all these points. .and there s not-so-good more. you re a big guy. .oh no. get the good more with verizon smart rewards and rack up points to use towards the things you really want. get the lg g3 for $199.99. oh, man. it s your shot of the morning. a reminder why you should never try to jump over a crocodile. this dare devil showing off and getting a little too close. sometimes i forget. i see crocodiles and i think, i can probably jump over them. there was no sign that said don t jump over the crocodile. i learned that in australia, don t jump over them. you did? yeah. i wonder if it s a crocodile or alligator. anyway, looks like the gator almost got him. how many animals did you deal with in australia? too many. the humans. how many on the view ? turning now to something else. a lot of fun we had indeed this weekend for fox fan weekend. we had a blast. i m going to show awe behind the scenes look at that. fox fan weekend is ridiculously fun. filled with fox fans who are the best in the whole world. absolutely. it s really an honor to get a chance to meet people. look at the fans behind me. look at these ladies. it s absolutely wonderful to see everybody and we re such huge fans. so this is really a pleasure. to wake up with fox & friends and they re watching all the way through sean hannity. they re die hard. the most honest news channel there is. i think these guys came the furthest. madagascar, right? fox fan day is a prescription for good health. they watch us every day and we couldn t do it without them. it s our chance to say thank you and meet them. really cool. it s a chance to see what makes fox & friends the number one show in morning cable news that we havehis connection. we want the real news. you got to watch fox. we re giving them free food. holy cow are they happy! the fox news fans are the most energetic, dedicated, wonderful, friendly people. we re grateful for them. i know they re grateful for fox. it s the best day ever. a good couple of days were had by all. every day at 4:15 in the afternoon, week days, we get the ratings from the nielsen company and we know how many people watch. it s not very often we get to see the faces attached to the people. we got to see 1,000 of you over the weekend. it was great to meet you. thank you all for joining us throughout the day here. one thing i would love to do is get the romper room mirror and look at the fans because they were able to stare into that mirror and see them. she was just pretending, so you could pretend you have a mirror and you could pretend you see them. excuse me. she was not pretending. my think she was just you re talking about miss nancy? you know what? i see heather and i see headlines. now you re pretending. i know the difference. you were great with all the kids yesterday, brian. i like kids. especially the fox kids. i was responsible for raising all of them. he was cover corralling mine and elisabeth s. i got some news now to bring you. there was chaos over the weekend at a keith urban concert. that was on stage in massachusetts. but what was happening on the lawn was an entirely different story. 22 people were sent to the hospital in ambulances and 50 others were arrested for drinking. this was at the infinity center in mansfield, massachusetts. keith urban wasn t completely oblivious to the crowd. he tweeted this after the show. gosh, out on the lawn, that was nutso. anyway, if you came tonight, thank you very much for giving us all the love and energy. concert promoters say the number of problems is small compared to the 18,000 people who were in attendance. it sounds like a country song, doesn t it. a driver plowing into a crowd of people dressed as zombies near san diego s popular comic-con festival. take a look at this. that was the annual zombie walk. there was a driver who was reportedly frustrated that he couldn t cross the street until it was finished. a 64-year-old woman hit the ground. she broke her arm. the driver says that as he tried to pull forward, the crowd started banging on the car, even smashing the windshield. that s when that driver hit the gas. police say the driver and his passengers are all deaf and they were frightened by the crowd of zombies. no charges have been filed at this point. a federal judge striking down washington, d.c. s ban on carrying hand guns outside the home, calling it unconstitutional and effective immediately. dc police can no longer arrest anyone for legally carrying a gun. fox 5 investigative reporter and author of emily gets her gun joined us earlier to talk about this major victory for second amendment rights. dc is the only place in the country that has a total had now a total ban on the right to bear arms. that s shocking when you talk about constitutional. dc s attorney general saying they are trying to decide whether or not to appeal that decision. listen to this story coming out of colorado. a guy there arrested on suspicion of a dui and that s not necessarily out of the ordinary, except for the fact that he was driving a lawn mower. police say he was on his own private bar crawl. he was driving his ride-on lawn mower from one pub to the next. his license had already been revoked once before for multiple dui s. those are your headlines. he told reporters he was just trying to mow some weeds that needed to be mowed. remember that movie called the straight shot where the guy rode the mower from his house to the house of his family? remember that? sounds like a great movie. it was a great movie. maybe that s where he got the idea. maybe. out to the streets, maria joins us. good morning. hello, everybody. i want to start out by showing you some video out of southeastern kentucky. i had the opportunity to go chasing out there and these storms were very extreme. they produced all kinds of severe weather. we had funnel clouds coming down across southeastern kentucky. some of these super cells ended up moving into parts of tennessee and out there, there are reports of significant damage to several homes, unfortunately. and also reports of severe weather stretching as far north as interior portions of the northeast. we expect more severe weather across southeastern parts of the united states stretching from parts of mississippi up into the carolinas. you re looking at the potential for large hail, damaging winds and isolated tornadoes. heat is also a big concern. a number of advisories out here because heat index values could be as high as 112 degrees. your actual high temperatures will be in the 90s out there, from florida, into georgia and the carolinas. behind the storm system, it s going to be a chilly one. highs only in the 60s in cleveland and tonight we could be setting some record lows out there across portions of the great lakes and even into the interior northeast. we ll take a look at how chilly those temperatures get. we could be looking at them in the 50s as we head into tonight. let s head back inside. great. chilly. get your pullover. or have someone come behind you and rub your shoulders. while you re sleeping? 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i would. switch to comcast business internet and get the fastest wifi included. comcast business. built for business. a very special guest made her debut on the house floor this week. here is abigail rose butler. if you look closely, you can see one-year-old abigail rose in the arms of her mom, congresswoman jamie butler. lawmakers applauding the miracle of that little girl s life because when butler was pregnant, she and her husband were told abigail would not survive. abigail suffering from potter s syndrome. she had no kidneys. she was told to terminate her pregnancy of the unwilling to do that and after prayers and experimental treatment, abigail was born and now she is thriving and she joins us now with her parents, congresswoman jamie butler and dan butler. good morning to you. good morning. she s starting to talk, sorry about that. we don t mind that here at all. that voice is a miracle voice. you can talk any time you would like. we hear your story and it was such a joy to see the applause there on capitol hill for you, your family and your decision. what did the doctors tell you that day in the ultrasound room? they told us that with 100% certainty she would not survive. they said 100% fatal. no baby has ever survived this. she will die. and it was terrifying cause they said it she would either miscarry or if we happened to give birth and she made it that far, she would suffocate because of her lack of lung development, because of the lack of kidneys. as you can see, even well-meaning doctors don t always know. only god knows the end. because now we see abigail. see her smile. she s gorgeous. so remarkable is the sight right here. dan, when you hear that from a physician, that this is 100% not going to work out well for you guys, not going to work out well for abigail, she was going to die. when you hear that, you decided to do what? well, it took us kind of 24 hours of reeling and regaining our feet, but we decided we felt the lord calling us to be parents right away. not to wait til she s born, but to begin fighting for her and advocating for her. so that s what we did. we were really grateful to be put in touch with a doctor who was willing to give her a chance. and try something experimental. that spermal team, can you that experimental treatment, can you explain that? it s very basic. it s not a high-tech treatment. it s back of saline water and a needle. very long needle. it s like a reverse am nio. but basically she would take a needle and put fluid into the womb because that was the problem, without kidney, there is no amniotic fluid. then her lungs won t grow. she put the fluid in once a week and we would watch abigail grow in the ultrasound each week. her feet were originally clubbed. we watched them unclub. her lungs grew and you can see she s happy and healthy. she s got a great smile. now is her treatment continuing and how is she today? she looks great. she s great. she s a happy, healthy, growing little baby. one of her doctors said she s a happy baby who happens to not have kidneys. she s on dialysis every night. hopefully when she gets bigger, she ll be able to get a kidney transplant and things will be even better. dad said that modestly. dodd volunteered to give her one of his kidneys. we re both a match, but dad wants to be the one to do it. wow. we re just growing her. you ve got a good mommy and daddy there. congresswoman dan, we thank you for joining us and sharing the miracle that is abigail rose with us. we love you, abigail. so thankful. thank you. amazing. still ahead, peyton manning takes a tough hit behind the line of scrimmage from his own kids, you see had here and you ve got to see this cute video. next, the big tackle ir is perfe. so s his serve. but like up to 90% of us, jim falls short in getting important nutrients from food alone. jim, here s $2 off one a day multivitamins to get key nutrients you may need. go to oneaday.com for savings. scheck it out.? 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ask your doctor if crestor could help you. if you can t afford your medication, astrazeneca may be able to help. each time at the end of the show kind of, we try to get one story and give you one story for the road. so peyton manning watt out of football for a year and a half. when he comes to practice for the denver broncos, you re not supposed to hurt him. this time his own kid sacked him in practice. that s a no-no, for the 40-year-old. look at this. colts kicker signs a baby girl at training camp. he signed the whole girl? right on the onesy. meanwhile, they did some research. here is a reason you should stop shaking hands. researchers in the u.k. discovered that hand shakes are the germiest way to salute somebody. a little cleaner would be the high five. but the best way to do it, the fist bump. ladies and gentlemen, as we leave today, let s all fist pump. very nice. so clean. donald donald was ahead of his time. he said that years ago. he did. thank you for joining us today. we ll see you back here tomorrow. watch the zoom out.
bid committee. a beautiful place to be. nightly news is next. at 5:00, the stanley cup finals. good night. on our broadcast tonight, plan of action with heavily armed fighters working their way across iraq. president obama lays out the options for u.s. military power. tonight, what s on the table, what s not with iraq on the verge of collapse. bergdahl s return, the army sergeant held captive by the taliban for five years now back on u.s. soil, tonight an update on his transition to american life and what he knows about what s been said about him. the surge on the southern boarder with mexico, an exploding number of children flooding into the u.s. illegally. tonight we re there with a firsthand look at this growing crisis. and dear dad on this father s day weekend, a new father on our team gets a preview of what is to come. nightly news begins now. from nbc news world headquarters in new york, this is nbc nightly news with brian williams. good evening, their name is isis, heavily armed, ruthly motivated fighters, they carried out daytime crucifixions to make their point and swept from syria to the east and are rolling across iraq, and on their way, they have taken over major cities, some oil facilities, u.s. weapons and vehicles. make no mistake, what is happening in iraq now is a direct out growth of the u.s. decision to invade the country over a decade ago. the question of what the u.s. should do now, what it can do, the president talked about that today. we re not going to allow ourselves to be dragged back into a situation in which while we re there we re keeping a lid on things and after enormous sacrifices by us, as soon as we re not there, suddenly people end up acting in ways that are not conducive to the long term effects of the country. what we ve come to know as iraq could fall, it appears iraq is headed for partitioning, if indeed, that hasn t happened already. we want to begin coverage with richard engel back in iraq after living there for much of the decade. richard, good evening. reporter: good evening, brian. today the president talked about days to consider options but many iraqis aren t sure they have days before this fight reaches baghdad. militants from isis are 40 miles from baghdad and they are growing in number joining forces with other sunnis who opposed u.s. backed shiite government and former military officials from saddam hussein s regime looking for any chance to get back into power. isis also now has the money to buy allies. it stole $450 million from the mosul central bank. the governor told nbc news today making it the richest terrorist group in the world. and after robbing mosul, today isis imposed islamic sharia law there ordering women to wear vails or stay at home. out lawing freedom of religion and barring all other armed groups from entering the city. and the men the united states trained to fight the isis assault, they are still surrendering. some told us they were ordered to by commanders. without the army s protection, hundreds of thousands of civilians are leaving mosul. they are building tents as fast as they can. there is a massive wave of people fleeing homes. the fear here is that this is just the beginning. this family, all 12 of them walked 20 miles to escape mosul. now at a refugee camp, a mother of five calls iraqi troops cowards, says she would be better fighting than them. but today this conflict may have changed, today the committee awoke. in the holy city where islam was surged in battle 14 centuries ago, volunteers signed up for a new war. clergies called the faithfully to arms and promised those who die fighting isis, a place in paradise. the war is closing in on baghdad where it is tonight. the people are worried that when you speak to them, you sense there is fear about perhaps the unknown would come. reporter: tension in the capitol, the u.s. freed from a dictator but fears it is once again in the cross hairs. and brian, as we talked about last night, there are still several thousand american contractors and u.s. diplomats in this country. many of them at the embassy in baghdad. the state department won t say if extra security procedures have been put in place but i can tell you in some of the streets not very far from the embassy, the locals are barricading homes. brian? richard engel in the north of iraq for us tonight. thanks. you heard the president say he s considering options, none of them are good. while the u.s. is making it clear, the iraqi government needs to step up, chuck todd there with more, chuck, good evening. reporter: the president chose his words carefully. laying the ground work for possible military action but he also had a clear message for iraq s political leaders, any american help comes with conditions. in a hastily arranged press conference, the president outlined his options quickly eliminating one of them. we will not be sending u.s. troops back into combat in iraq, but i have asked my national security team to prepare a range of other options that could help support iraq security forces. reporter: but even as he hinted at some military action, targeted drone strikes the most likely, the president made it clear help won t come if the prime minister doesn t stop shutting out his sunni adversaries. the u.s. is not going to involve itself in military action in the absence of a political plan by iraqis that gives us assurance they are prepared to work together. reporter: the president didn t stop there. he went on to blame the government for the performance of the security forces. the fact that they are not willing to stand and fight and defend their posts indicates that there is a problem with moral ultimately that s rooted in the political problems that plagued the country. reporter: and illustrating how this crisis created strange international problems, the president called iran to help but never mentioned the name. iraq s neighbors have responsibilities to support this process. nobody has an interest in seeing terrorists gain a foothold inside of iraq. reporter: iran s president took to the airways yesterday promising iran would quote not tolerate the terrorism in neighboring iraq. the president who is keeping his weekend schedule, which includes down time in palm springs, said a decision whether to get involved military is not imminent and it s that delay that spurred criticism by republicans on capitol hill. this request is made to take action with drone strikes. it is far past time for us to take a decisive move here. reporter: brian, two reasons the president is hesitant, first, pentagon officials say their intelligence is not good enough right now to launch strikes and they certainly don t trust information from the maliki government. they said he won by promising and delivering american withdrawal from iraq so the last thing he wants to do is go back in. chuck, thanks. we re joined by david gregory, moderator of meet the press. he s in our washington newsroom. david, how does the president sell any action at all to the component of the american people who feel to coin a phrase, it s not our dance after the blood and treasure spilled there even though to coin another, we broke it? right, that pottery barn rule you broke that you own it, you got to somehow fix it. this is a terrorism problem, brian. that s what the president made clear today. this is not about the civil war in iraq or a neighboring syria. those are certainly involved in a really the foundation of this. the reality is you ve got terrorists who are much greater in numbers going to the number of foreign fighters perhaps even at 10,000 between syria and iraq. this could be a real threat to the united states. the american public may not want to get involved again but the president has to outline the fact it s a core belief of his that he cannot allow a failed state to emerge while saying politics is at the root of it. he s not going to help unless the iraqis demonstrate they will help themselves. there will be a debate about that. david, i saw at least one news organization fond of branding isis as the group too extreme for al qaeda. what about al qaeda in all of this? well, this is really a fight for what al qaeda is going to be, post osama bin laden in the middle east. you re right, there is branded an organization that s too extreme for al qaeda. that tells you how awful it is. i spoke to one source who said this is worse than afghanistan before the 9/11 attack. so that might draw in iran that doesn t have a good relationship with al qaeda, either. david gregory, in our newsroom. the situation in iraq will be among the major top picks covered on meet the press. among david s guest, mitt romney. he will sit down for an exclusive interview. for this nation s military men and women, those who served in iraq the pictures are confusing and tough to watch. it was a big topic at the home of the unit known at the time as the tip of the spear. fort steward, georgia where the third infantry is based, nbc s stephanie gosk is there for us tonight. reporter: in the spring of 2003 the u.s. military s third infantry division from fort steward was among its first to fight its way to baghdad. there were four deployments in total, more than 400 soldiers killed. you don t know what the outcome is going to be. reporter: he served three tours as a combat engineer, the guys at the front of the front line. do you ever think we should never have been in there in the first place? no, i don t ever have that opinion we never should have been there. we was called on to go, and we went there. we done our part. they got to do it on their own. it s their fight. reporter: each person we spoke with here has strong opinions about iraq, whether they fought or not because in a military town, everyone feels like they have been at war. ellen mark s husband fought in korea. she thinks the u.s. military did pull out of iraq too fast. they should have left some back and brought them back in smaller quantities at a time. reporter: at the opening of a brand-new va clinic, there was a sense of relief that years of combat are finally ending and there is not a lot of appetite to go back in. kerry harvey was a tank commander in the first gulf war. we can t keep putting soldiers in harm s way over and over and over again. you know, somewhere it has to stop. reporter: no one we spoke with here wants boots back on the ground. does the u.s. have a role now? we have a supporting role, yes. but we don t have a role in fund. we should assist them from the back. reporter: for the war weary, the battle to secure iraq now feels like somebody else s fight. stephanie gosk, nbc news, georgia. the uncertainty over the crisis is having, as you might have guessed, immediate economic impact at home. iraq is the number two oil producer in opec. analysts say gasoline prices will go up five to ten cents a gallon in coming days following an increase in crude oil prices for a second day today. their highest levels now in ten months. while the attention on much of the world is on iraq, russia is moving tanks and heavy weapons into ukraine to aid russia and back separatists there is. the tanks and multiple rocket launchers were moved into ukraine yesterday and are now being spread out across multiple cities in the eastern portion of the country that has been the center of so many of those violent clashes of late. tonight, u.s. army sergeant bowe bergdahl back on american soil after more than a week in a u.s. military hospital in germany and five years held captive by the taliban, nbc s katy tur is out brooke army medical center tonight, katy, good evening. reporter: good evening, brian. he did the first two stages of his reintegration in germany and will continue onto the third here in san antonio. he arrived around 1:40 a.m. last night on a military plane and was immediately taken to the medical center. here, they will start the process of helping the now 28-year-old make decisions for himself one. one of those is seeing his parents. they are not here now and so far he hasn t had contact with them. doctors say it is up to him to decide when he is ready to reach out. now when asked if sergeant bergdahl is aware of the controversy surrounding him, no, he is not. they wouldn t go into many details about his state of mind, whether he s happy, sad, excited or nervous but they did mention one of the things that he is starting to request is peanut butter. in the coming days, he ll undergo more comprehensive testing, including conversations about just what happened during the five years in captivity. brian, there is no word on exactly how long he ll be here. katy tur in san antonio for us tonight. thanks. still ahead for us this evening, crisis on the boarder this friday night, a sudden surge in children all alone making their way into the u.s. illegally and later, that luxury home teetering on the edge of a cliff in texas, we ll show you what happened to it today. texa what happened to it today. two medium cappuccinos! let s show em what a breakfast with whole grain fiber can do. one coffee with room, one large mocha latte, medium macchiato, a light hot chocolate hold the whip, two espressos. make one a double. she s full and focused. 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[ male announcer ] ask your doctor about lyrica today. it s specific treatment for diabetic nerve pain. back with more on this growing crisis involving children along our boarder with mexico. the number of unaccompanied children trying to cross into the u.s. has increased 92% in the last year. the reason being blamed for this huge surge, more smugglers are selling a safe passage to escape increasing violence in central america. tonight the situation is overwhelming local and federal officials. we get our reporting tonight from nbc s mark potter on the boarder in mission, texas. reporter: in a field near mission, texas, boarder patrol agents gets four young men and teens from central america. but the agent in the chopper spots something else and it s a startling sight. a young man who had been hiding in the mud after entering the country illegally slowly crawls out of the field to join others. he s part of the wave of more than 47,000 unaccompanied children, mostly central americans picked up at the u.s. boarder. in the last 90 days, it s gone through the roof. reporter: the surge puts a big strain on his department. the river is shallower, as you can see. reporter: along the rio grand, he shows us where the water is so low, the immigrants simply walk into the united states keeping his and other officers so busy, they have little time for other boarder police work. it takes a group of officers leaving other areas unattended where something else can come across. this is the neighborhood where i was raised. reporter: dutch piper says it s so bad immigrants have been hiding in his yard. by the time i got in my vehicle and made the call, they were gone. reporter: undercover video shows seriously overcrowded conditions facing newly arrived immigrants at the u.s. boarder patrol station in mcallen. advocate groups allege young arrivals are being mistreated. federal officials say they are scrambling to improve conditions and praise the overworked agents. i ve been watching them do absolutely heroic efforts. not only rescuing children but taking care of them way beyond some of the skill sets. reporter: skills constantly tested as more desperate kids cross the u.s. boarder every day. mark potter, nbc news, mission, texas. another break, we re back in a moment with the end of an era tonight in the tv business. 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[ woman ] got me to 70 years old. i m going to have to rethink this thing. it s hard to imagine how much we ll need for a retirement that could last 30 years or more. so maybe we need to approach things differently, if we want to be ready for a longer retirement. about that house we showed you about that house we showed you earlier this week teetering on the eroding cliff on lake whitney in texas, it was condemned because the collapse was inevitable. today the owners received permission to set their own house on fire. they figured it would reduce the amount to tear down and salvage from the lake below and after becoming fully evolved, most of it burning in place. president obama focused on the struggles of native americans today. he made a visit to the standing rook reservation home to about 850 people and where unemployment is 60%. with that in mind, the president talked about job creation and education among other things. with his visit today, he becomes only the fourth sitting president ever to visit an indian reservation. tonight in the pacific northwest, an era is coming to an end. jean enersen is signing off as anchor of king 5 in seattle. she s been described as the queen of king, the brand and the franchise. jean was the major market female anchor in this country and the longest serving. she won t mind us saying she turns 70 on monday and been on the air for 46 years. she s a proud stanford grad who went on to get two masters degrees and traveled the world and brought her viewers along with her. she was the first local tv anchor to report from china. put it this way, if you re a 50-year-old living seattle, jean anderson has always been on tv in your viewing lifetime. it s with respect and awe that we add our congratulations to our friend. well done. when we come back on a friday night, one assignment they have no trouble completing. you ll hear tributes to dad this 2014. completing. you ll hear tributes to dad this 014. l fibrillation, or afib. he has the most common kind. .it s not caused by a he2014.art valve problem. dad, it says your afib puts you at 5 times greater risk of a stroke. that s why i take my warfarin every day. but it looks like maybe we should ask your doctor about pradaxa. in a clinical trial, pradaxa® (dabigatran etexilate mesylate). .was proven superior to warfarin at reducing the risk of stroke. and unlike warfarin, with no regular blood tests or dietary restrictions. hey thanks for calling my doctor. sure. pradaxa is not for people with artificial heart valves. don t stop taking pradaxa without talking to your doctor. stopping increases your risk of stroke. ask your doctor if you need to stop pradaxa before surgery or a medical or dental procedure. pradaxa can cause serious, sometimes fatal, bleeding. don t take pradaxa if you have abnormal bleeding or have had a heart valve replaced. seek immediate medical care for unexpected signs of bleeding, like unusual bruising. pradaxa may increase your bleeding risk if you re 75 or older, have a bleeding condition or stomach ulcer, take aspirin, nsaids, or blood thinners. .or if you have kidney problems, especially if you take certain medicines. tell your doctors about all medicines you take. pradaxa side effects include indigestion, stomach pain, upset, or burning. if you or someone you love has afib not caused by a heart valve problem. .ask your doctor about reducing the risk of stroke with pradaxa. 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[speaking foreign language]. happy father s day, daddy. happy father s day. there you go. wishing a happy father s day to all. thank you for being here with us. i m brian williams, we of course hope to see you right back here on monday night. have a good weekend. we ll leave you tonight with pictures of a darken and stormy friday the 13th night here in new york and up and down the east coast. good night from new york.