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Because a lot of people on the right are very up in arms, you could say, about this decision. what do you make of it. >> right. well, i think you have to go to the supreme court precedent on this in the heller decision which established very clearly that there is a fundamental right to own a firearm in this country. and what the supreme court said was that includes all common use firearms. and i don't think you can interpret that any other way as to say this protects the purchase and ownership of guns like, for example, the ar-15 which is banned by maryland. the ar-15 there are millions of the...

Because a lot of people on the right are very up in arms, you could say, about this decision. what do you make of it. >> right. well, i think you have to go to the supreme court precedent on this in the heller decision which established very clearly that there is a fundamental right to own a firearm in this country. and what the supreme court said was that includes all common use firearms. and i don't think you can interpret that any other way as to say this protects the purchase and ownership of guns like, for example, the ar-15 which is banned by maryland. the ar-15 there are millions of the...

Those very culturally conservative second amendment people out to show up? >> it's something that donald trump's been talking about in his campaign all along. he's been -- including in that last debate, as you recall. there was a protracted conversation between secretary clinton and mr. trump about the second amendment. the heller decision, to be more specific. i thought her answer to that was not particularly a shining point for her. and he made very clear that he supports the heller decision, which found that we all have an individual right to bear arms. and in terms of the nra, they endorse...

Tradition of gun ownership. it goes back to the founding of our country. i also believe that there can be and must be reasonable regulation. because i support the second amendment doesn't mean that i want people who shouldn't have guns to be able to threaten you, kill you or members of your family. so when i think about what we need to do, we have 33,000 people a year who die from guns. i think we need comprehensive back ground checks, need on close the online loophole, close the gun show loophole. there are other matters that i think are not in any way conflicting with the second amendment. y...

Background checks, need to close the online loop hool. close the gun show loophole. the kind of reforms that would make a difference that are not in any way conflicting with the second amendment. you mentioned the heller decision. what i was saying that you referenced, chris, was that i disagreed with the way that the court applied the second amendment in that case. because what the district of columbia was trying to do was to protect toddlers from guns. and so they wanted people with guns to safely store them. and the court didn't accept that reasonable regulation, but they have accepted many...