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Retired lieutenant colonel alexander vindman. and author of the book "here right matters". colonel vindman, thank you for joining us. look, you and i have been talking for a very, very long time. and we haven't had a full chance to explore this part of the conversation, which your book goes into very clearly. what is happening on the other side of the world, in ukraine, a country which you hail, is directly tied to the attacks on democracy that you witnessed in the white house while you were the director for european affairs at the national security council. >> absolutely. i think the first th...

The level of coordination is not normal. it's not unprecedented. this is not a administration talking to media outlets and coordinating messaging. this is intended to retaliate and punish an official for fulfilling my duties, for any official fulfilling their duties. it is intended to have a chilling effect on whistle-blowers, on good governance and people reporting corruption. there's nothing normal about this. >> it isn't normal for sure. we're going to follow your lawsuit and see the result of it. colonel, thank you so much for being on. lieutenant colonel retired alexander vindman and auth...

News you just reported, the russians indicating some willingness for face to face negotiations with the ukrainians. i'll let you get back to reporting, including on the situation in kyiv, very intense right now. we'll talk to you again in a moment. joining us now retired u.s. army lieutenant colonel alexander vindman, previously served as european affairs director for the national security council, also the author of the book "here right matters." also with us, cnn national security analyst and former deputy director of national intelligence beth saner. i want to get your perspective on this...

Negotiations about a cease fire, about those humanitarian corridors to see if those people from mariupol and the surrounding areas are able to make it west in coming days. alex. >> molly hunter, thank you so much for your front line reporting. much appreciated. joining me right now is retired army colonel, alexander vindman, former director of the european affairs. and author of the "new york times" best selling book "here right matters," good to see you again. i was watching you watch that interview that molly hunter conducted with that mother and her 9-year-old daughter. i saw you blinking...

Joining me is the former director for european affairs at the national security counsel and senior advisor after vote vets and the author of "here right matters" and intelligence analyst and author of the upcoming book "they want to kill americans." thank you for being here. lieutenant colonel vindman, you said you believe that short of doing a no fly zone, if that's not tenable, there are ways that we could make a -- something like it possible. this is what you wrote, establishing a no fly zone may be too provocative but if they don't strange that intervention, they ought to supply ukraine wi...