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weapon. two home defense weapons, a shotgun and a .38 revolver. listening to the of witness you were talking to earlier, senator john cornyn said that the barrel was shortened. a standard shotgun barrel is anywhere between 18, 20, 22 inches long. you're not allowed to have one with less than an 18-inch barrel or 2 in6 inches in total length. the maximum rounds may have been four, five, six rounds. he would have had to reload. we don't know if this was buckshot or bird shot or a deadly shrug round. and the five or six rounds he would have had with the .38. enough damage in that time before the police were able to interdict him to kill ten people, unfortunately. >> school of 1,400. imagine if he had something that would have allowed him to be more productive. now, there's this other aspect. charles ramsey, let me bring you in.
shotguns make excellent home defense weapons. you don't have to be an expert marksman. they are inexpensive and they are easy to learn how to use. and with the pump-action shotgun, if you have heard of a shell getting racked, that's a deterrent in its own. they are really good for home defense and because of the size of them, long guns are generally of a lot lower value to criminals than the handguns and we make sure they stay in the home. thank you for your time. we should check back with you after the program has been implemented to see how the crime rate is fairing. we will try to do that. >> thanks for having us. >> thank you. >> lasers that obliterate drones are not just for star wars. they are for the navy. the newest weapon in the pentagon's arsenal. and seven months after four americans were killed in benghazi, questions are not being answered. a group of special ops veterans