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force pilot. what was his reaction as a king? the gloves have come off. as a father. disgust, sadness to the family. how far will his nation go in response to try to defeat isis? this is our war. then from next door the man who could upset israeli politics. a poll this week has the party dead even with the party of the current prime minister benjamin netanyahu. elections are just 16 days away. what does herzog think of mr. netanyahu going to washington in i ll ask him. but first here is my take. washington is getting enthusiastic about idea yonlg cal warfare these days. not democrats versus republicans but rather americans versus islamists. having spent the last two weeks insisting we label jihadi terrorist islamic, many cry we must fight them on ideological front. fine. such a struggle against radical islam will be different from vast cultural struggles and will yield somewhat surprising recommendations for action. our image of an ideological war comes from the cold war, a titanic struggle between two complete world views. that struggle was so pervasive and intense because the enemies ideas were potentially attractive to anyone anywhere in the world. communism and capitalism were both secular ideologies each trying to seduce the world s undecides into its camp. it s difficult to remember today that for decades communism was alluring to tens of millions of people. in the 1920s and 30s, many of the western world s greatest intellectual like irish playwright george bernard shaw and historian hotline g. wells were enamored of it. in 1940s, communist parties got large chunks of the vote in free elections in france and italy, leaving many observers to worry those countries would choose to become communists. around the world the appeal of socialist and communist ideas was real and at times very strong. radical islam by contrast is severely limited in its global allure. almost by definition it is deeply unattractive to all non-muslims. even within the muslim world radical islam does not do well. in the half of that world that votes, indonesia, india, bangladesh turkey iraq and pakistan. parties based on such ideologies have garnered very few votes. thus the ideological war today is really and crucially a struggle within islam. that s a war that has to be waged by muslims. if outsiders like america want to play a role they should try to listen to and support those muslims fighting the good fight. it s irrelevant what barack obama wants to call isis. what matters is what the locals here in jordan and in other arab countries whatnot to call it. against these people as you ll hear in a moment the king of jordan thinks such people should be described as out allows of islam. whatever the phrase the effort seems similar to that of the obama administration to deny these groups the mantle of religion and in effect to ex-communicate them from islam. the ultimate irony is if one does understand the ideology of islamistings properly it leads in one direction. graeme wood in his much discussed essay discussion greater military involvement against isis. the biggest proponent of an american invasion is the islamic state itself he writes. the provocative videos are clearly made to draw america into the fight. and invasion would be a huge propaganda victory for jihadists worldwide. instead koungs containment, selective airstrikes and support from muslims who are working to dissuade their brethren from falling prey to radical islam. in other words, fighting an ideological war against isis actually points one towards a sophisticated strategy that employs military restraint and political cooperation with arabs. i wonder if those clamoring for such a struggle are on board. for more go to cnn.com/fareed and read more. and let s get started. king abdullah ii ascended jordan s throne just over 16 years ago. there arguably has never been a more tense time during his rein reign. by u.n. s count ,000 refugees in january, some say the number is higher. one refugee camp is now the fourth biggest city in jordan. outside jordan s borders it has isis in iraq and syria, which is spilled over into lebanon and turkey and now perhaps even further afield. it has the palestinian problem in israel and the west bank right next door. most recently abdullah has had to lead his nation through the sadness and anger that flowed from the brutal murder of one of the nation s air force pilots by isis. we met in the al husseinia palace in jordan s capital. thank you for joining us. good to be here. this the first time you re speaking to the world since the death of the jordanian pilot and that brutal video. tell us what was your reaction when you first saw the video? in actual fact i didn t see the video. many of uses refused to see what i think is propaganda. lfb oy i had a detailed brief of what happened. we couldn t escape seeing obviously, pictures in the newspapers. discussed sadness to the family. i had met the family on many occasions. my heart went out to the father the mother brothers and sisters, his wife had only been married five months. anger as son of the army forces god bless his soul he s a brother in arms. so i think all soldiers past and present were disgusted by the brutality of what moab was put through. i think if isis or dash as we call them try to intimidate jordanians i think just have the reverse effect. if you look at our history, we re a country that s used to being outgunned and outnumbered. we ve always punched way about our weight. i think if anything dash has us as a tiger by the tail. it just motivated jordanians to rally around the flag and the gloves have come off. what do you think they are trying to do with the video? ? they are always try to intimidate scare, put fire into people s hearts. this is a group that works by intimidation intimidation. they are trying to in vent linkage to caliphates length to our history in islam which has no truth or bearing to our history. to bring in deluded young men and women who think this is sort of an islamic nation it has nothing to do with our history. actually the barbarity with the way they executed our brave hero shocked the muslim world, specifically jordanians from this region. it had nothing to do with islam. intimidation is the major lesson. jordanian government promised an earth charlottering response eringshattering response as i recall. what we ve seen so far isn t that dramatic. is there more to come? what is going to happen? earth shattering from all military capabilities is not something that happens overnight. there has been a massive response electric their campaign. there are continued operations going on in syria. we are coordinating with our friends in iraq. there is a long-term approach to this issue. and again, this is one of the issues that i d like to point out to you. one of the things that the isis and daesh has been saying why are we picked on by fellow muslims, why are jordanians getting involved in this war. it is our war. it has been for a long time. against these people for lack of a better term these are outlaws, in a way, of islam trying to use expansionist policy. the minute they set up this irresponsible caliphate to try to expand their dominion over muslims. they try to make themselves look as the victims. it is us muslims preying on them. what about the hundreds if not thousands of muslims they have killed in syria and iraq over the past year and a half. the tribes we have a responsibility to reach out to in eastern syria, important in western iraq that had been executed in large numbers over the past year and a half. so this is our war. we have a moral responsibility to reach out to those muslims to protect them and to stop them before they reach our border. in syria, are you not inevitably aligned with the assad government in the sense that if isis is your main threat, winston church hill said if hitler were to invade hell i would make common cause with the devil. do you have to de facto side with assad. there s the history dealing with regime and history of dealing with isis or dash. what has taken prominence at the moment is isis, daish at this stage. are we trying to chew gum and walk at the same time? this has to be decided by the international community. we believe there has to be a political solution that brings it to the table because there is this bigger problem. that has not been clarified at the moment. coalition, arab muslim western, so to speak, can only do so much in syria against isis. but at the end of the day it has to be syrians themselves especially when you want to reach heartland of isis. when we come back with his majesty king abdullah ii i will ask him what he wants to call the radical islamists or radical extremists that president obama doesn t want to call islam, when we come back. put under a microscope we can see all the bacteria that still exists. polident s unique micro clean formula works in just 3 minutes, killing 99.99% of odor causing bacteria. for a cleaner, fresher brighter denture everyday. ring ring! progresso! i can t believe i m eating bacon and rich creamy cheese before my sister s wedding well it s only 100 calories, so you ll be ready for that dress uh-huh. you don t love the dress? 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i think he is right. i think this is something that has to be understood on a much larger platform. they are looking for legitimacy they don t have inside of islam. when we re asked in debate are you moderate or extremists these people wan to be called extremist. they take that as a badge of honor. if you ask me moderate or extremists i m a muslim. these people terms using more and more they are in a way outlaws that are on the fringe of islam. and if you look at sort of the way they are presented inside they are inside sunni islam. sunni islam is 1.5 billion muslims. they represent only 1%. out of that may be 200 to 500,000 of these people. out of these to label islam under the term extremists and moderates is wrong. making the comparison they are extremist muslims is actually working exactly what these people want. no we are muslims. i don t know what they are. they definitely do not have any relationship to our faith. when baghdadi the leader of isis came out with his manifest okay even extremist organizations completely backed away from what he said. he has nothing to do with the tent tent tenets of islam. who should respond to this arab response muslim response or should the west be in the lead? this has to be unified. i ve said this to leaders both in islamic and arab world and to the world in general. this is a third world war by other means. this brings muslims, christians other religions together in this generational fight that all of us have to be together. so it s not a western fight. this is a fight inside of islam where everybody comes together against these outlaws so to speak together. it s a short-term part of this military part of the issue. there s medium part which is security part to it. there s a long-term element to this which is obviously the ideological one. that s the one more complicated and more difficult. in sunni islam, as you know no real priestly hierarchy. there are no popes or really anything like that. but there is historically a great weight given to people who have some family association with the prophet. your family is regarded as descending from the prophet. given that do you think that when you hear talk not just from people in isis but people who did the things they did in paris about blasphemy and punishments of blasphemy, do you think any of this has any basis in islam? again, those that are trying to use there s a difference and i m sure we can get into this between freedom of speech and hate speech. both ronnie and i president of paris, the right thing to do to stand against extremism. also a muslim policeman ahmed, the first policeman to be at the scene of that crime who paid with his life defending the laws of france. we were there to defend those innocents killed in the name of islam, whether it was the 150 odd school children killed in a school in pakistan whether it was the thousands that were killed in a nigerian village in a single day or thousands of muslims killed every day in syria and iraq. so the issue of the blasphemy, if anybody understood the prophet, may peace be upon him, and how he used to look at life he was persecuted at the beginning of bringing islam together and he always forgave. there were some brutal things that happened to him, his family and he always forgave those around him. so for these extremists now to be able to sort of be the defenders of his honor when they don t understand who he was, i find so insulting in a way, because he would have always forgiven. but that s not what they want to do. they want to create that hatred. my brother again spoke out that the sort of vilifying of religions is something we all have to stand together. then you see the good stories unfortunately not reported enough in the media. so when you look at what s happened over the past several months when people or extremists in sweden went and sort of painted insulting graffiti on a mosque door in the city in sweden the swedish people came out and put paper hearts on the door of that mosque. islamic groups went out chanting against islam. the great cathedral of cologne turned out its lights in protest against that. last week young muslims in oslo held hands around a synagogue to show a ring of peace. these are the messages that we re all united together against this fight. and not to fall into the trap that the extremists want on either side to create hate between religions. that s what we have to concentrate on. when we come back more of my interview with the king of jordan. i will ask him where isis gets its money when we come back. major: here s our new trainer ensure active heart health. heart: i maximize good stuff like my potassium and phytosterols which may help lower cholesterol. new ensure active heart health supports your heart and body so you stay active and strong. ensure, take life in. if you don t think top of my game when you think aarp, you don t know aarp. aarp s staying sharp keeps your brain healthy with online exercises by the top minds in brain science. find more real possibilities at aarp.org/possibilities. when heartburn comes creeping up on you. fight back with relief so smooth. .it s fast. tums smoothies starts dissolving the instant it touches your tongue .and neutralizes stomach acid at the source. tum, tum tum tum. smoothies! only from tums. like, literally ran into him. 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money does get supplied by individuals in our part of the world. you ve seen u.n. resolution recently to try and move us into international community to make sure those accesses are cut off. you ve also got to remember that isis was fairly successful in taking over territory whether it was in syria and more recently in iraq where they overran banks and managed to capture a lot of money. then they ran their own economic industries so they were selling a lot of oil, producing about a billion dollars worth of revenue a year. that s been degraded quite significantly since because of coalition airstrikes. but they had this own ability to run their own economy quite successfully. do you think that defeating isis will require or should require american boots on the ground american ground forces? look i think that a lot of us are looking at this it being sort of our fight, arab muslim challenge, trying to keep western boots off the ground is i think an essential part of how we move forward. i think this is why most of us are looking at it that way. at the end of the day why? do you think it would be a gift to isis to have americans? that could be an element of it because i think sort of the perception they would use occupation as the wrong issue. they will obviously always use the idea of this is a crusade, which it is not. actually this is our fight. at the same time when you look at syria and also iraq it s the integrity and sovereignty of those countries. it has to be syrians dealing with their issues and iraq is dealing with theirs. it doesn t mean they can t be aided by air, possibly special forces types of operations in the future. those are things being looked at. what i think is more important to look at challenges and holistic approach the challenging in 2015. the fixation today is on iraq and syria. we can t forget the problems of sinai. we can t forget the problems of libya. we must not forget africa boca haram, shabaab and the problems these franchises so to speak, are presenting to asia. haram, shabaab and the problems these franchises, so to speak, are presenting to asia. haram, shabaab and the problems these franchises, so to speak, are presenting to asia.k haram, shabaab and the problems these franchises, so to speak, are presenting to asia.o haram, shabaab and the problems these franchises, so to speak, are presenting to asia. so like minded countries need to come together and bone up to how we can share responsibility work together and deal with these problems in a holistic approach. do you think prime minister netanyahu has genuinely be making an effort to create a two-state solution to the palestinian problem? at this stage, nothing proactive will happen from either side unfortunately until we get passed the elections. my hope is that once we get past the elections, there is a serious commitment from both sides to move on the two-state solution. the reason is if this is our generational fight against these outlaws of islam, we have been talking about this global threat. what these people use as one of their main recruiting issues rightly or wrongly, because the israelis will say these problems have nothing to do with us and get upset when i say all roads lead to jerusalem, they use this as an argument. we saw that the spike in recruiting in the summer when the wars happened and 700 women and children died as a result foreign fighters flocked to syria and to iraq because of what they perceive as the justice of the palestinians and of jerusalem. so if we re going to have any chance of winning this generational fight, this third world war by other means, if we can t fix this israeli palestinian problem, this ongoing situation that s been there for many decades, then we have at least one hand tied behind our backs if we re to deal with this. this is the challenge to both israeli and palestinian leadership. you have to understand this problem has become much bigger than ourselves. how are we going to be able to win this? how are we going to justify us muslims with the international community, fighting with people if this thing keeps bubbling. that s the major challenge, i think. your majesty, pleasure to have you on. thank you so much. hi, this is jennifer i will be out of the office until monday, and won t be checking voicemail during this time. i ll reply just as soon as i get back to work. sail with the number one cruise line in alaska. enjoy 7-day cruises from $499. call your travel consultant or 1-800-princess. princess cruises. come back new. 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is it more sadness or anger or both? i think it s a combination of both of those feelings. there s a lot of sadness about the fact that boris nemtso v one of the country s most prominent opposition figures has been gunned down so ruthlessly on the bridge as you say, a short distance from the kremlin. you can see traffic is back here now. just about an hour ago there were thousands of people who turned out to pay their respects to express their sadness but also their anger at the direction which russia has turned with the killing of boris nemtsov. one of the signs that struck me propaganda kills, one of the slogans brandished on signs. a reference to this idea that russia has become a place where if you re opposed to the kremlin, if you reject what the kremlin says you become an enemy of the state. that s something that s been actively propagated by the governments of this country. it s within that context that boris nemtskov was killed. that s what the people who came to this rally were concerned about. what do we know about the suspect or possible suspect. apparently thoughts have a digital sketch. can you give us any more information about that? yeah. a digital sketch. it s pretty vague. there s some vague distribution put out by the police. they are looking for somebody who is between 170 and 176 centimeters tall things like that. i m not clear it s going to be the kind of description that is going to lead to a conviction necessarily in this case. that s one of the big concerns here too. russia even though it says it s going to bring the culprits to justice in this killing, it s got a very patchy record indeed in solving these kinds of political killings. the killers back in 2006 of a prominent journalist who was a fierce critic of the government. the he has been sent to prison but those that order it have not been found. so russia has a very patchy record. it is a great deal of scepticism amongst ordinary russians that it s going to be any different this time. matthew, thank you so much. this is certainly a case where you think you re watching some kind of thriller. unfortunately it isn t, it s reality. thank you. we re going to go on to other news. yesterday venezuelan president declared authorities have had arrested an unspecified number of americans, including an american pilot, for espionage. maduro claimed united states backed a coup plot against him. the u.s. denied it but the president also announced several high-profile u.s. officials including george w. bush and former vice president dick cheney would be banned from venezuela. that s all the time we have for this cut-in. i m dana bash. this has been gps and a news update. fareed will be back in just a minute from ahman, jordan. he ll have a man that might be netanyahu s political nightmare? 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that we make it clear to the american public and to our viewers that there is no difference in israel as to the strategic threat that emanates from the iranian nuclear program. clearly no israeli leader and me included will ever accept a nuclear iran. however, the way to deal with it in my mind should be different. and i think netanyahu s speech in congress is a mistake. need to work together intimately with those negotiating with the international agreement with iran and make sure that this agreement is ironclad on delivery namely there will never be an iranian nuclear bomb. when arguments emanate, such as the arguments surrounding the speech of netanyahu in congress there are questions that are raised. there is daylight between us and the administration and that s not good. and you would not have gone? hu been prime minister you would not have accepted the invitation to speak to congress two weeks before the election? i would make sure that nothing of this sort would be viewed as partisan in any way. the united states was always strategic for us was never partisan. israel knew how to work the floor both sides and keep unique relations with both parties. i definitely believe that it is a mistake to present an elected official in the united states with a question whether he prefers the white house or prefers israel. actually isn t a question. we have common grounds. you know we share the same objective of making sure that iran won t have nuclear weapons. iran is a rogue state, a dangerous state. iran spreads hatred all over the world. iran should be demanded by the international community in these negotiations to make it clear it accepts israel as part of the family of nations rather than calling for its eradication. these are the issues we should be talking about. we should define intimately between the nations what is a bad deal. the president himself said rightly so a bad deal is no deal. israeli ngo has released a report there has been a 40% rise in settlement activity construction in the west bank since last year. a lot of people believe at this point a two-state solution is really going to be very, very difficult. do you believe if you were prime minister that there is an actual path to a two-state solution and what is it? it s materialistic. i don t agree with all these opinions. i think that it is viable. however, right now our relationship with the palestinians is at a dead-end. it s actually one of the worst periods in the relationship. the palestinians opted for unilateralism. they have come forward with unilateral steps both to the security council as well as going to the international criminal court against our soldiers who have protected our nation against palestinian terror from hamas. we will stop unilateral action by palestinians and we will try to reignite the process. i will definitely try to reignite the political process with the palestinians by way of including our neighbors in this process such as egypt and jordan on a regional platform and trying our best again, not to give up but trying our best again. what do you make of this recent court decision in the united states awarding damages against palestinian authority? if you are trying to make peace, is that something that is not going to help because you need a partner, or is it something that has to be done? how do you view it? first and foremost we need to negotiate. that s what we need to do. we need to talk to each other. i met president abbas a couple of times in the past year. i must say i actually asked him, do you believe there will be a day when you will be able to come to an agreement with an israeli leader. he wasn t sure about his answer. i say to you and say to our viewers, first and foremost we need to win trust with our neighbors. we need to extend our hand and see what and how they are coming into this again, yet again, not to give up try, and not naive. i think that it will be much more difficult to start again, but we should start again. what would be the biggest difference mr. herzog between you being triple and bibi netanyahu baseball prime minister a month from now. there are many differences. internally i offer totally different social economic platform which strengthens and empowers the people which returns money to them which has a better division of income in our society and gives them hope. and secondly, i want to bring hope to our people to my people as well as to our neighbors. i believe that in our region everybody ought to live quiet, tranquil and successful life. we have to do whatever we can to give hope to our children and to the next generalerations. i will try my best i will try again, i will talk to the region. israel should be part of that coalition which fights extremism and works together towards peace and works together towards stability in the middle east. mr. herzog pleasure to have you on. thank you, fareed. that was israel s labor party leader isaac herzog. we asked prime minister netanyahu to appear but he declined our invitation. next on gps, the world s longest train journey was completed this week. we ll tell you where it went and why. k on purchases. that s a win. but imagine earning it twice. introducing the citi® double cash card. it lets you earn cash back twice, once when you buy and again as you pay. it s cash back. then cash back again. and that s a cash back win-win . the citi double cash card. the only card that lets you earn cash back twice on every purchase with 1% when you buy and 1% as you pay. with two ways to earn, it makes a lot of other cards seem one-sided. when heartburn comes creeping up on you. fight back with relief so smooth. .it s fast. tums smoothies starts dissolving the instant it touches your tongue .and neutralizes stomach acid at the source. tum, tum tum tum. smoothies! only from tums. okay, listen up! i m re-workin the menu. mayo? 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welcome to to our viewers in the united states and around the world. i m george howell. this is cnn newsroom. we start the show in russia. police are investigating the shooting death of a well-known opposition leader and vocal critic of putin. this outspoken boris nemtsov was in the shadow of the kremlin walking across a bridge when a car pulled up to him and someone opened fire. the suspect or suspects remain at large. boris nemtsov seen in a rally last year was a top official with the liberal opposition group. he had most recently been very critical of the kremlin s handling of the ukraine crisis. now we are learning that boris nemtsov gave a radio interview hours before his death. he talked about why russia needs political reform. listen. of course when the power is concentrated in the hands of one person and this person always rules everything ends up in an absolute catastrophe, absolute. boris nemtsov s death is prompting speculation he may be killed. they have ordered a task force to investigate. jonathan mann spoke to an expert from american university. the professor down played boris nemtsov s prominence as an oppositioning leader saying he doesn t pose much of a threat to the kremlin. listen. one thing i m sure we will all hear about is whether the kremlin has been come police it is or not. i think that makes little sense given where the murder happened right in the middle of moscow right next to the kremlin, a stone s throw away you could say. the truth about boris nemtsov i have met personally did not know very well but he was articulate intelligent, tall and hand smchlt politically over the past decade he s become increasingly irrelevant. so the risk or the threat that he poses to the cement lynn is virtually nil these days. so, you know, my initial impression is to direct this or to link this to the kremlin or president putin is really a red herring at this point. let s turn to our senior international correspondent in moscow with closer look at who maybe behind this killing. how hard will it be to find the people or person behind this. there is a manhunt underway that got started shortly after all of this happened. authorities saying that putin was informed of this killing pretty much immediately after it happened. then the manhunt got underway for someone in a white car because eyewitnesses said they saw someone speed away in a white car from the scene of the crime. of course the interesting thing to many people here in moscow is where this happened how this happened and when this happened. of course as we said this happened on the doorsteps basically of the kremlin. the kremlin is less than 1100 yards away from where this happened. how this happened it seems to have been a professional way in which this was done. boris nemtsov was talking next to a friend of his and the friend was not injured or wounded in this. all bullets appeared to have been on target and of course when this happened it happened right before a major opposition rally is to take place or was to take place here in moscow tomorrow. so let s have a look at how the night unfolded. the killing happened very late in the evening on friday. let s have a look. gunned down in the heart of russia s capital, investigators work the crime scene where boris nemtsov lay. law enforcement officials say one of russia s most prominent russian figures was struck in the back by several bullets. the killing happened next to the kremlin walls in the vicinity of saint ba sill s cathedral. he was walking with a friend when a car stopped and an assailant opened fire. as mourners lit candles and laid flowers, speculation over who did it. some blait blame the government of the putin and others disagre. this is a message to all of us. who will be next? we have some small part of russia people who want to break putin, and maybe they make it to show people in other country, government of country putin. reporter: it s not clear who s behind the killing but boris nemtsov had many enemies. he was russia s kepty prime minister in the late 90s but joined the opposition after putin came in to power and was jailed several times for criticizing the government. putinen condemned boris nemtsov killing and offered the family condolences and launched an investigation this to murder and said it i bears the hallmarks of a killing provoking unrest. a friend and political ally of boris pors was one of the first at the scene of the murder and criticizes russia s p. translator: i don t know who did the shooting or pulled the trigger but i believe it is russia s government and personally putin who are responsible for it. vladimir putin is responsible for creating atmosphere of hatred in our community. they have incited hatred for dissidents and for boris nemtsov. nemtsov was set to take part in a rally this sunday. instead there will be a march for mourning for one of the most else want opposition voices brutally silenced forever. certainly if you look at putin s approval ratings here in russia you can say it would have made no sense for the kremlin to be in any way, shape involved in all of this. putin currently has 86% approval rating here in russia. the big question with though george is what will happen to the opposition in this country? certainly we ll know more about that on sunday and see whether what happened will galvanized them or if people will be in fear and opposition will be marginalized more. the world will be watching as this investigation unfolds. this is not the first opposition member to have met a similar fate. how likely will it be to track down the people or person responsible for this in this investigation? well if you judge by past experiences, and certainly it could be very difficult. if you look at the case of anna people there believe the true people behind her killing were probably never brought to justice, even though there were trials that went on. it is something that will be very difficult. certainly from the point of view of the russian authorities say they they are putting all of the resources that they need to in to the investigation of vladimir putin. if you look at the manhunt, we were going around in moscow last night. there were a lot of police check points and a lot of cars checked. they have put out the order to look for white cars which were checked frequently. they appear to be putting a lot of resources in to this. whether or not it will be successful only time will tell. senior international correspondent live in moscow. thank you so much. the white house has condemned what it calls the brutal murder of boris nemtsov. president obama is calling on the russian government to conduct a prompt impartial and transparent investigation of the murder and ensure those responsible are brought to justice. mr. obama also said he admired boris nemtsov s dedication to the struggle against corruption in russia. in the united states the u.s. department of homeland security will have funding at least for the next week. close to the midnight deadline congress passed an extension to keep the agency running for now. soon after president obama signed a temporary patch as mary maloney reports the compromise came after a dramatic day in washington. the ayes are 357. the nays are 60. two thirds in the affirmative. reporter: with the sound of the gavel congress compromised and passed a stop gap measure to fund the department of homeland security. now tsa screeners, border agents and federal workers can get paid and keep working. chaos came before the compromise. for most of the day on friday, lawmakers seemed poised to avoid a nail biter showdown. when it came to the vote a shocking twist in the house to an already dramatic day on the hill. joint resolution is not passed. reporter: nearly every democrat and a few does en republicans voted against it. it all comes down to playing politics. republicans wanted a provision, blocking the president s executive order on immigration, which the bill didn t have. and democrats didn t vote for it because they wanted to force republicans to fund the department for the year rather than three weeks. as hope started to fade by the hour nancy pelosi told democrats to vote on a patch that would fund the department for a week. we certainly want to protect the american people every minute of every day. 24/7. reporter: the house took note and passed the tech rare patch. congress is expected to continue the debate next week mary maloney reporting. an american blogger who stood up for secular freedom and criticized religious extremism has died after a savage attack if bangladesh. activists poured on to the streets on friday to protest the killing of avijit roy. he founded the website free mind. and wrote for the center for inquiry. what s so sad is the way in which he was murdered so brutal and callus for someone so kind and open minded. it s horrible. reporter: witnesses say two men attacked roy and his wife with machetes on thursday night. roy died and his wife was baddedly wounded. i saw an unknown person bring out a big knife and first hipt him from behind on his head and then on his shoulders. i shouted for help from the people but nobody came to save him. no one came. a lady was with him. she was his wife. she was also hit on the shoulder. roy is the second blogger to be killed in bangladesh in the past two years. his father says islamic extremists are behind the attack. for more let s go to ivan watson in hong kong. this is not the first time a writer has been attacked in this muslim majority country. what impact is it having? what are people saying? well there have been some small protests organized in the days since this murder took place. you have top officials in the bangladesh government and the police that have come out denouncing the attack. the police telling cnn that they still have not arrested any suspects in connection with this murder. we spoke to the forensic doctor who carried out the autopsy on the victim here. the description of the wounds matches these words such as savage and brutal because avijit roy had wounds deep wounds in his skull and his in his back and neck as a result of this apparent machete attack. the u.s. state department has condemned the attack against roy. we believe to be a u.s. passport holder of bangladesh descent. the u.s. has offered to assist with the investigation. listen to the spokesperson for the u.s. state department. avijit roy was a journalist humanist and friend. he was taken from us in a shocking act of violence. this was not just an attack against a person but a cowardly assault on the universal principles enshrined in bangladesh s constitutioning. avijit roy was an outspoken critic of religious extremism of all stripes. he had published a book called the virus of faith and he wrote in an unpublished essay it was to come out in april in the magazine free inquiry, he wrote after the publication of his book last year that he was inundated with death threats from wa he described as islamist radical groups and cited one man who he alleged wrote a warning saying we can t kill roy while he s in america. we ll wait to kill him when he comes back to bangladesh and that s apparently what happened. he and his wife were attacked while they were walking back from a book fair where their books have been released in the past. he was reportedly due to leave bangladesh back to the u.s. in a few days. one other thing just pointing out here you are saying that he would not be killed in america but would be killed in bangladesh according to that person. is there a chilling effect for other writers there? there certainly has been a very worrying trend here. as you pointed out at the beginning of this report there was another secular aught yis writer blogger murdered in similar fashion two years ago in the bangladesh shi capital and another writer killed in 2004 also in what is believed to have been a machete attack. roy actually cited those two instances, those two attacks in his article that was yet to be publish ed. his father has accused islamist groups in bangladesh of being behind this attack. the most prominent islamist political party in the country has rejected any links to this murder and has called for justice behind the murder of avijit roy. it s important to note his wife is still being treated in the hospital and she had one of her fingers severed in again, what is described by everybody across the board as a savage attack. ivan watson with us in hong kong. thank you for the reporting. we are getting our first look at the man known as jihadi john when he was a school boy in london. authorities say mohammed emwazi is the man who narrates the isis propaganda video in english when western hostages are being beheaded. they identified him on thursday. former classmates tell various british media outlets, mohammed emwazi was a typical school boy growing up. he had a lot going for him in london and many say he didn t have a violent past. so why does someone like this become radicalized? 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kid. authorities say the child this this picture, mohammed emwazi went from pop groups and football to being a western front man in extremist videos. brian todd looks at the theories behind his radicalization. reporter: he s known around the world as isis best-known killer a cold-blooded brit, who waves his knife terrorizes western leaders. and then shows an innocent hostage decapitated. he may have beheaded hostages on camera himself but gee had di john the man believed to be 26-year-old mohammed emwazi was a preppy british school boy from a middle-class family. he graduated from a large, well-regarded classroom in london with a computer programming degree. how and why did a young man with his prospects join isis? an advocacy group said it started when he went to tanzania in 2009 to take a safari. instead he was detained sent to britain. cage whose leader claims to know him says he was subjected to hostile questioning five times mostly by british security services and worked over by interrogators. on one occasion at the airport he was roughed up by the police a little bit. he was strangled by an officer. reporter: british officials have no comment. analysts who know isis recruiting say this about the claim that harassment from authorities turned mohammed emwazi in to jihadi john. i think it is an absurd claim. it is not the cause of his radicalization. the reason intelligence services harassed him is because they suspected him of wanting to join al shabaab in somalia. reporter: papers say that he was part of a group of extremists called the north london boys who allegedly funneled money and recruits to al shabaab. some raise up to senior positions within al shabaab and the al qaeda cell out of east africa. he seems to have known some of these people. reporter: he said he went to syria in 2012. analysts say it is likely he joined another jihadi group first and then isis and he had at least one skill attractive to isis. to make your mark and become important within the organization it is important to speak arabic and that would have made him stand out. he was a brit, a westerner but he was also an arab. one analyst says another characteristic jihadi john has that would have moved him up the ranks is harassment. one pointed out martin luther king were harassed by authorities and neither of them resorted to beheadings. the prime minister of israel is expected to arrive in the united states this weekend. many are questioning how tense the visit will be. it s just you and your honey. the setting is perfect. but then erectile dysfunction happens again. you know what? plenty of guys have this issue not just getting an erection but keeping it. well, viagra helps guys with ed get and keep an erection. ask your doctor if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take viagra if you take nitrates for chest pain; it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. side effects include headache, flushing, upset stomach and abnormal vision. to avoid long-term 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president of the united states and the prime minister of israel is not good. the u.s.-israeli relationship is in trouble because of public rhetoric. we have a real difference around iraq sanctions. it does not make sense to sour the negotiations a month or two before they are about to be completed. i m going to the united states not because i seek a confrontation with the president. to speak up on a matter that affects the survival is of my country. because congress might have an important role on a nuclear deal with iran. the prime minister s response to the john boehner speaker of the house invitation to address the house that was awkward. if we had an opportunity to weigh in more we would welcome the opportunity and probably make a variety of changes. on both sides there is a degree of partisanship. it is destructive of the fabric of the relationship. i remember a time when you have seen members of one political party, democrats in this case threatening to boycott an address by the prime minister of israel before a joint meeting of congress. you wonder is this as bad as there have been. there been strains in the u.s. israeli relationship during various administrations. i remember in 1990 george h.w. bush was president, james baker secretary of state. they weren t happy with the new israeli president. and baker was testifying before the house foreign affairs committee in 90 when that irritation publicly burst open. everybody over there should know the telephone number is 1-202-456-1414. when you are sere s you about these, call us. reporter: what happened a year later, even made that relationship even more tense. the israelis were absorbing tens of thousands of jewish refugees. they needed financial help. they were seeking billions of dollars in loan guarantees from the united states and they basically told the shamir government you are not going to get those guarantees until you cease the settlement activity on the west bank. that caused a real rupture. what you don t see now, that you did see in 91, is cut off of aid, if you will. one of the strengths israel has had over all of these years is strong support among republicans and democrats, liberals and conservatives and if you undermine or poison that relationship it will hurt israel in the long run. they have a lot of work to do. wolf blitzer reporting there. a friend of boris nemtsov says the activist paid for his believes with his life. up next pro democracy advocate gary kasparov weighs in on the kremlin critic s death. plus police capture one of the biggest targets in the drug war and did it without firing a single shot. ahead i think by making this comparison they are extremist muslims is working as these people want. we are muslims. i don t know what these people are. king abdullah in an interview with cnn talks about the battle against isis and whether calling the group islamic helps their cause. welcome back to our viewers in the united states and around the world. you are watching cnn newsroom. . i m george howell. the headlines this hour u.s. president obama signed a week-long funding extension for the department of homeland security. congress bassed the measure averting a shut down of the agency that handle airport screening and border security. india s new budget aims to increase economic growth. the finance minister says india will grow at a rate of 8.5% starting in april. they plan to increase infrastructure investment by $11 billion and to set up a universal social system security system. russia is threatening to cut off natural gas shipments to ukraine if it doesn t get full payments. they say it received a $15 million payment from kiev but that only covers a day s worth of natural gas. also in russia police are investigating the shooting death of opposition leader boris nemtsov. the outspoken critic of vladimir putin was shot multiple times on friday in moscow as he walked across the bridge near kremlin. president putin condemned the killing. boris nemtsov was well aware he was a potential target. hours after he was shot and killed, his long-time friend and pro democracy activist gary kasparov spoke to cnn s john bermen. he believes kremlin led investigation in to the murder will turn up nothing. brave man, full of life who had been blasting putin s regime for corruption for violation of human rights up to the last hour of his life. his last is recorded 40 minutes before he was shot dead. few hundred yards away from kremlin. who do you think killed him? remains to be seen. i have great doubts they will be found. we could see pictures of police bringing machines and using powerful hoses to wash away the spots. if you are serious if you are trying to investigate it seriously you don t do that of course. i doubt that it was a direct order from putin. it is a toxic atmosphere of hatred that has been pomle gated by russian television 24/7. russian mass media has been spreading hatred. boris nemtsov and people like him have been called national traitors. i think that some of putin s cronies decided it could move further by eliminating one of the enemies of putin because murder, death, destruction, they are regular guests on russian television. when you hear it for 30 minutes you can get sick. they are preaching death to everybody outside of our country. the russian leader said he has launched an investigation. do you trust the investigation if to this murder from the government of vladimir putin. i trust the investigation will find nothing or will find someone to blame for this crime. again, what they did in the first minutes after this crime tells us that there was no interest to find those who did it. the fact is they did it just in front of kremlin. i think just tells us that it is it s impunity. so they believe the country belongs to them. you can see how putin s power base has shifted. now he relies on the most brutal cruel, aggressive elements of russian society. you heard boris nemtsov, your friend talk about the risks that he was taking as an opposition figure in that country and in that clip we just played mr. there. you haven t been back for two years. are you afraid? i left because i was called to testify or to be a witness in one of the numerous political cases. i spoke to boris and another prominent election leader what could have happened and they told me look, you enter the building of russian investigating committee as a witness and leave it if if you leave it as a suspect. so i stayed away with it is tragic to remember that when we argue with boris about the future. you could hear him being optimistic and i said it would be inevitable. this tragedy was unavoidable in my view. you told him, he would be killed. it was just about the outcome. i kept telling him no way russia would be transformed with the ballot elections and he said maybe we have to try. he was one of the few believed that russia could find a safe path to democracy. we can somehow rebuild our country without revolution and turmoil and he paid with his life for his belief. gary we are sorry for your loss. thank you for coming in tonight. large opposition rally planned for this weekend was cancelled after news of boris nemtsov s death. a mourning march is expected to take place on sunday in downtown moscow instead. mexico has captured one of the most wanted drug kingpins in the country. gomez is the leader of the knights temper cartel. the government accused the cartel of involvement in drug tasking, killing and kidnappings and extortion. reporter: mexican authorities have captured the country s most wanted drug lord. gomez, known as the teacher. the 49-year-old drug pin was the leader of a car pell separating out of one of the country s most dangerous states. the former teacher was arrested in the city. police officials say he was captured without a single shot being fired. the knights temple once dominated the methamphetamine market in mexico. he called many of the shots using intimidation extortion and coercion they controlled local politics and business. that changed when group challenged them. when the federal government took the state by storm in an effort to free from the grip of them. a $2 million bounty was put on gomez s head. in a rare interview in 2014 gomez admitted that one day he would have to answer for his crimes. [ speaking foreign large ] how does a teacher become a criminal? reporter: the arrest comes after the president ordered a crackdown on gang members and cartels in the country. the president and attorney general have been under fire since 43 students were kidnapped and apparently killed by corrupt police officers working with gang members in september. cnn, atlanta. the trial for the alleged boston marathon bomber will stay in the city of boston. a federal appeals court denied the petition from dzhokhar tsarnaev s lawyer on friday. it was their second attempt to have the trial moved, claiming that jurors from boston would not treat their client fairly. dzhokhar tsarnaev has plead not guilty to more than 30 counts stemming from the 2013 bomb ing. jury selection is expected to continue next week. canadian authorities are trying to track down at least four teenagers who may have flown to the middle east in an attempt to join the group isis. three of the teens attended a montreal community college. that school accused a leader of the islamic group who taught one of the students of spreading hate speech and suspended the group s classroom lease. the preacher denies having any links to radical islam. one of the key players in the fight against isis jordan s king abdullah sat down with our fareed zakaria to talk about how to fight the terrorist group. in the interview which you can see on sunday fareed asks about the words that should and should not be used when talking about isis. president obama has gotten in to a little trouble, or at least has received some criticism because he says he want to call groups like isis islamic extremists because he doesn t want to give them the mantle of legitimacy by acknowledging they are islamic. do you think he is right? i think he is right. this is something that has to be understood on a much larger platform. they are looking for legitimacy they don t have inside of islam. are you a moderate or extremist? what these people want is to be called extremists. they take that as a badge of honor. to label islam under the term of extremists and moderates is extremely wrong. i think by making comparists they are extremist muslims is working as wa they want. no we are muslims. i don t know what these people are but they definitely no do not have a relationship tour faith. you can watch the interview on fareed zakaria gps on sunday. for viewers in the united states that is 10:00 a.m. eastern standard time. brilten s prince william tried on a different look in japan today. he became a samurai war lord. he visited the set of a long-running drama where geishas performed for him and transformed in to a royal 16th century fighter them duke of cram cambridge learned how public tv station nhk rehearses the emergency broadcasting in the event of a earthquake. he is visiting sites impacted by the 2011 deadly earthquake and tsunami. police in the u.s. are not sure what to do after finding a stolen house moved from its original spot. we have i guess you could say, in our custody a home. i don t know where we are going to put it. why they are struggling to figure out who owns it. well, did you know words really can hurt you? what.? jesse don t go! jesse.no! i m sorry daisy, but i m a loner. and a loner gotta be alone. heee yawww! geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. jesse? welcome back to cnn newsroom. arctic air cancels flight s and snarls traffic. what a mess. the question now, where is it headed next? meteorologist karen maginnis is at the world weather center. it seems like a recurring theme here. the cold weather and the sfoe. yes. that description is any number of hundreds of cities across the united states. they have been impacted by this arctic air that has really moved pretty far to the south. we have seen those temperatures that are unlike what we are typically, or would typically see. in dallas 27 degrees fahrenheit which is kwif tloent minus three degrees celsius. single digit temperatures across the northern tier to the great lakes. not to be outdone, it is bitterly cold in the northeast and new england. that has been kind of the summation of what the entire winter season has been like. this is a view across texas. right now in dallas just to the north of the metroplex area they are seeing a little snow. there s been some freezing rain. look at what it did to the city during early friday morning. yeah. these people had some fun, even the animals did, as well. on the roadways it was slow going. the traffic was snarled. there was one 15-car pileup with some injuries reported there. at the airport, numerous cancellations having been reported. a lot of that was thanks to the black ice on the roadways that really wreaked havoc across this city that is fairly widespread across northeastern sections of texas. not just there, but spreading in to oklahoma as well as arkansas. so where is it headed? it is going to cut a wide path across a good portion of real estate in the united states all the way from kansas city to near chicago. extending to the ohio river valley and you can guess what it is headed next that would be boston. could be a record-setting weekend for snow for them. i don t know what boston does with more snow. it has been horrible. thank you so much. now on to the u.s. state of oregon where an entire house has gone missing. luckily it was found a mile away. the question how does a whole house get ripped from its foundation and moved? lyle aarons from our affiliate kobi has the story. reporter: while this log cabin was reported as stolen on tuesday, linda utley isn t sure what the fuss is about. i don t understand why they just now got around to saying it was a stolen home. it has been in plain sight for a year. the mystery isn t over. this is a situation where three parties are claiming ownership. one of the three parties sold it to a fourth party. deputy s found the home on nine mile road a half mile from where it was first reported as missing. 3750 feet away from where it was. across the meadow. no charges have been filed against the property owner where the cabin was found. he is an innocent person that bout a log cabin, to quote him. at a steal of a deal. i was getting calls from ap bbc, and you guys and everybody else. it s surprising. reporter: linda utley saw the announcement on the news too. i remembered the house from the photo. it is like i know that place it has been next to me almost a year. we have i guess you could say in our custody is home. i don t know where we are going to put it or where we are going to book it but we have a home. pretty cool story there from our affiliate kob ireporter lyle aarons reporting there. the hope is that you will be able to hear the next story. and if you can t, your music habits maybe to blame. the details are next. 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then a country that is collapsing and in response lashing out at dick cheney. it s very close to home. also in my continuing quest to remind you of the good news about the world out there, two special guests. swedish professor hans rosling will dazzle you with charts that show a very different world than you ve been led to believe you live in. one of bill clinton s favorite experts will tell you about the amazing technological advances that are changing the world for the better. but first here is my take. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu s speech to the united states congress was eloquent, moving and intelligent in identifying the problems with the potential nuclear deal with iran. but when describing the alternative to it, he entered never neverland, painting a scenario utterly divorced from rye aelt. congress joined him on his fantasy ride, rapturously applauding as he spun out one unattainable demand after another. netanyahu declared that washington should reject the current deal, demand that iran dismantle almost its entire nuclear program, and commit never to restart it. in the world according to bibi, chinese, russians, europeans will cheer, tighten sanctions and increase pressure which would then lead iran to capitulate. dreams do come true, if only we wish hard enough, says peter pan. we actually have some history that can inform us on the more likely course. between 2003 and 2005, under another practical president, mohammed khatami, iran negotiated with three european union powers a possible deal to place iran s nuclear program under constraints and inspections. the chief nuclear neglect it ser at the time was hassan rowhani, now iran s president. iran proposed to cap its centrifuges at very low levels keep enrichment levels well below those that could be utsed for weapons, and convert its existing enriched uranium into fuel rods which could not be put to military use. peter jenkins, the british representative to the international atomic agency said, all of us were impressed by the proposal. the talks collapsed because the bush administration, acting through the british government, vetoed it. it was certain, jenkins explained, that if the west could scare the iranians, they would give in. well, what was the result? did iran return to the table and capitulate? no. the country withstood the sanctions and now unimpeded by any inspections massively expanded its nuclear infrastructure. iran went from 164 centrifuges to 19,000 accumulated over 17,000 pounds of enriched uranium gas and ramped up construction of a heavy water reactor at iraq, that s one that can be used to produce weapons grade plutonium. harvard university graham allison, one of the country s mother most experts on nuclear matters, pointed out that by insisting on max mallist deplandz and rejecting potential agreements the first of which would have limited iran to 164 centrifuges, we ve seen iran advance from ten years away from producing a bomb to only months. netanyahu worries with this deal ten years from now, iran might restart some elements of its program. but without the deal, in ten years iran would likely have 50,000 centrifuges, a massive stockpile of highly enriched uranium, new facilities, thousands of experienced nuclear scientists and technicians and a fully functioning heavy water reactor that can produce plutonium. at that point what will bibi do? for almost 25 years now, netanyahu argued iran was on the verge of producing a nuclear weapon. so why have bibi s predictions been proved wrong for 25 years? a small part of it has been western and israeli sabotage. but even the most exaggerated claims by intelligence agencies would not account for a delay of more than a few years. the larger part is probably that iran has always recognized that were it to build a bomb, it would face huge international consequences. in other words, mullahs have calculated, correctly in my view, the benefits of breakout are not worth the cost. the key to any agreement with iran is keep the cost of breakout high and the benefits low. this is the most realistic path to keep iran from becoming a nuclear weapons state. not party pan dreams. for more go to cnn.com/fareed and read my washington post column this week. let s get started. for more on iran s nuclear ambitions and prime minister s netanyahu s speech to congress and much more i have a terrific panel joining me today. anne-marie slaughter, policy planning state department in president obama s first term. she s now president and ceo of the think tank new america. joseph nye, former assistant secretary of defense, former dean of the kennedy school of government former professor of mine and long time professor at harvard university. he s the author of the new book is the american century over? brett stephens is a pulitzer prize winning columnist for the wall street journal, and and peter beinart is a political commentator. imagine that bibi gets his wish that the deal is rejected by the united states. what do you think would be the reaction of europeans, chinese, the russians. when you were director of policy planning, these were your counterparts. you were dealing with them. what s their attitude? i think that s the worst outcome, there s no deal. it s because of the united states. because at that point, this coalition that we have pretty miraculously kept together, even the chinese and russians and europeans to keep sanctions on iran, that coalition will fall apart. it will be seen that there was a deal, that the deal was imperfect but much better than no deal, that the united states at the behest of israel blocked that deal. at that point our competitors, other nations will lift their sanctions and we re going to be stuck with ours and with the ability of the iranian government to continue progressing toward a nuclear weapon. no zero hour in diplomacy . there was attempted negotiations in 2009 again in wr 10 10, 12. if this deal falls through at some point people will regroup and rethink. the best thing that can happen quite frankly, now that oil is worth half as much as it was when these negotiations began is that you can renew the kinds of serious economic pressure on the iranians that will make them rethink this. by the way, i think this deal suffers from this tremendous detect of the sunset provision. telling the iranians that in ten years they re free and clear when it comes to building any kind of nuclear there was never going to be a permanent deal in perpetuity. this began with discussion of 20 years, even generations. ten years is literally the goalpost retreated and west keeps moving towards iranian position. goalposts have moved precisely because we have not been willing to agree to a deal that would freeze it where it was. they have gotten steadily closer to getting a nuclear weapon, more centrifuges, enriched uranium. if we don t get a deal, there s nothing to stop them. by the time we go to next round of negotiations, they will be even closer. whether oil prices stay low or stay strong there is not the appetite for massive economic pressure on other countries not as ideologically as us more dependent on iranian oil. to imagine we can get not just back to this coalition but to a much stronger coalition and we will be able to retard the progress iran has made in the interim i don t know anyone that studies either iranian politics or global politics vis-a-vis other major powers in the world thinks that s possible. joe, what do you think is the likelihood of these sanctions being able to stay in any event. sanctions notoriously get leaky after a while. they will get leaky. if a deal falls through and it s regarded as our fault or israel s fault, i think they re not just going to leak. the boat is going to sink. because the countries will openly say we re not enforcing this. yes. i think the key question for bret, and i d be interested in his reaction, if you really thought that low oil prices and a hope for continuation of sanctions would get you to zero centrifuges, then i think go along with that. do you think that s really plausible? we re going to hold that thought because we are going to take a break and bret stephens is going to answer joe nye s question when we get back. i am totally blind. i lost my sight in afghanistan but it doesn t hold me back. i go through periods where it s hard to sleep at night and stay awake during the day. non-24 is a circadian rhythm disorder that affects up to 70% of people who are totally blind. talk to your doctor about your symptoms and learn more by calling 844-844-2424. or visit my24info.com. i have great credit. how do you know? duh. try credit karma. it s free and you can see what your score is right now . i just got my free credit score! credit karma. really free. we re back with anne-marie slaughter, joe sif nye, brett stephens and peter beinart. for the handful of people who did not sit through the commercial. the question i was posing for brett and it is a serious question, not a set-up of any sort is do you think you can, under the pressure of low oil prices and sanctions, which may be leaky, but we re hoping some will hold. do you think you can get to a situation where the iranians will really go towards zero centrifuges? yes. let me throw in a few facts. iranian program is not 36 years old. it was started by the shaw of iran under american prodding. it is a nationalistic program. a new poll showed the nuclear program in iran is popular. it withstood the sanctions. it still withstood the iraq war. it only stopped in 2003 because of the coincidence of the high point of american power around the serious threat that the regime faced. basically they found themselves put to the choice have a nuclear program or keep the regime. when the choices were that stark, they in fact moved. so we re not going to topple the regime. they don t face that pressure. we re essentially either going to have for deal or a deal that stops things and is in a better position. threat.ing to topple the regime is the one insurance policy they could buy. you have to exact a price. this is a regime winning everywhere it looks throughout the middle east. let me ask you about this. in your and prime minister netanyahu s conception of iran there is this great paradox. they re winning everywhere gobbling up other countries but actually on the verge of collapse because of lower oil prices and sanctions. how can both be true? they are economically vulnerable. countries on the march can have general vulnerables. right now vulnerability are they very strong or are they very weak? economically vulnerable but at the same time they are playing their cards terrifically in taking advantage of an absence of american will to defend u.s. interest in syria, yemen, and iraq. what do you think about reports, new york times has a terrific one about the fact that the u.s. is tacitly relying on iran to battle isis in iraq. it s not surprising at all. iran and u.s. have overlapping interests there. part of what benjamin netanyahu was trying to say, isis is the moral equivalent of the regime in iran. that s not true. the iranian regime is a very nasty, brutal ma lev eleventhelevolent regime. it s the country that has capacity to be a stable democracy. if it westbound isis there would not be 20,000 jews living in iran with functioning synagogues. we have much more in common both strategically with this government in iran than isis. i think this is one of netanyahu s big problems. most american don t believe iran and isis are similar threats to the u.s. they concede isis is of a different caliber. what about that point. you look at afghanistan, iran and the u.s. have basically the same interests. both don t like the taliban. if you look at iraq iraq and the united states have similar interests. is it possible to go beyond the nuclear issue? not a perfect one. i have a view middle east is going through the equivalent of europe s 30-year war. you re seeing religious divisions, state divisions, non-state groups all battling. essentially in that kind of a situation, there s going to be a lot of fluidity in terms of what alliances, contemporarytemporary coalitions are going to happen. we re not going to run that any more than you can run french revolution to switch metaphors in the period after 1789. it takes two or three decades for these things to work themselves through. will we be involved in one group and another group and the enemy of my enemy, i think yes. what do you make of the death murder of boris nemtsov. is there anything to say about it? i think we are seeing what a brutal regime this is. a regime that i think is stripped more and more of any shred of legitimacy it faces, that it could have. i think that a lot comes down to whether you re basically an optimist or a pessimist. critics of barack obama are generally pessimistic. they tend to see authoritarianism is on the march. the crucial divide between them and obama, i think obama is basically an optimist. i think he basically believes economic forces, forces of globalization will ultimately make a regime like putin not be able to sustain itself forever and certainly not be on the march. i think peter s analysis is absolutely right and i m a pessimist. quite frankly part of the problem that we have with putin is that just as now we re talking about nemtsov, six years ago or a few years talking about someone else so many opponents of the regime who met mysterious ends. that was time and again we regretted the murders, wondered about the motives of the murders. then swept under the carpet for the sake of pragmatic relationship with russia. so these killings continue. i don t know who killed boris nemtsov but it s just the case a lot of his political opponents come to untimely ends. i think what s happening with britain, with inquiry of murder of alexander lipvinenko. a starting point historical accountability for what s happening in modern russia. i think russians might be paying attention. as they start paying attention they will realize their enemy not in the west, their enemy in the kremlin. there s actually good news in this story. not obviously about nemtsov. that s terrible. we don t know who did it. certainly somebody friendly to putin. with that story obscured, was that demonstration that nemtsov was planning to attend, that became a memorial for him, what that shows you is that even at a time when putin is supposed to be at an all-time high when he s supposed to have support because of the war in ukraine and crimea he s once again actually facing significant demonstrations at home. that s what he s terribly scared of. can i just ask a question. do you think we are now in a situation with russia where russia is not the soviet union, so it s not really a cold war, but relationship between russia and the united states particularly in the west is just going to be adversarial? i think we re in for a bad spell and it s not just putin. i argue in my book russia is a country in serious decline. it s a one-crop economy, which has a tibl terrible demographic problem. fewer and fewer russians. it s has a health problem. average russian male dies at age 64, a decade earlier than other developed countries. with such rampant corruption, any attempt to reform it is blocked. this is a picture of a society in deep decline. the danger is that declining societies are often more dangerous than rising ones. if you ask me which is more dangerous, russia or china, i worry more about russia. remember 100 years ago in the great war, as it was called it was austria/hungary was the only major power that really wanted war. and that s because austria and hungary were in decline. on that sober note, thank you very much. up next, there s an autocrat perhaps even more combative than putin and he s right in the united states own backyard. we will tell you who and why when we come back. in new york state, we re reinventing how we do business so businesses can reinvent the world. from pharmaceuticals to 3d prototyping, biotech to clean energy. whether your business is moving, expanding or just getting started. only new york offers you zero taxes for 10 years with startup ny business incubators that partner companies with universities, and venture capital funding for high growth industries. see how new york can grow your business and create jobs. visit ny.gov/business now for our what in the world segment. an autocratic strong man has gotten nasty with washington in recent weeks. he announced u.s. embassy staff in his country must be cut back by over 80%. he s banned some current and former u.s. officials, george bush, dick cheney among them from entering his nation. he s even said that he s had some americans arrested on suspicion of plotting a coup. no, we re not talking about vladimir putin. it s someone much closer to home. nicolas maduro. the president of venezuela. this week the president went further revealing an audio recording that maduro says links an american citizen to a plot to overthrow him. he wants this american ics extradited. the u.s. has mocked such allegations as baseless. why is he doing this? simple. he s collapsing and wants someone to blame or divert attention towards. venezuela s economy is in shambles. its inflation rate is now close to 70%. higher than any other country in the world, by far, according to barclays. the bank says the country s debt is even riskier than greek debt. the imf predicts the economy will plunge by 7% this year. supermarket shelves are empty. hospitals lack basic supplies. the terrible economic policies of maduro and his mentor the late president hugo chavez have taken their toll. barclays points to measures such as nationalizing private industries and an inefficient exchange rate policy as being the culprits. the economy was already in bad shape last year and then oil prices plummeted making things much worse for this oil-centered economy. we are witnessing the end of chavismo. the populist social agenda of the late president hugo chavez. the carnegie endowment for international peace notes chavez definitely wove together a narrative of democracy with elements of authoritarianism creating a post modern autocracy that looked democratic but was anything but. he says elections are rigged the government controls the judiciary and runs the national assembly without checks or balances. when chavez was in power, his charisma and political being aacumen along with high oil prices filled government coffers and made him popular. but maduro doesn t come close to his predecessor. his approval rating has fallen to 22% according to that analysis. so how will this play out. parliamentary elections are supposed to take place this year. but it the not believed it will happen unless the ruling party knows it will win. they predict potential riots and food shortages and maduro could be forced out of power by rifle chavez supporters. the american enterprise institute has a more dire prediction, civil war. the government is polarizing, he says, and it is not embarrassed to use violence. we reached out to the maduro government for comment but we did not get a response. venezuela may be the worst example of a phenomenon we are likely to see more of, trouble in oil-rich countries. if oil prices stay low, many regimes that have built their legitimacy on general subsidies and a well-paid apparatus of control might find themselves facing severe challenges. alas, in the short-term, this might not produce regime change in democracy so much as crackdowns repression and chaos, which is what we are seeing in venezuela today. . next on gps, prepare to have your vision of the world turned upside down. if you think the world looks grim and scary these days, my guests will give you what they say are the real facts about how well the world is doing, really. it s not likely to go away on its own. so let s do something about it. premarin vaginal cream can help it provides estrogens to help rebuild vaginal tissue and make intercourse more comfortable. premarin vaginal cream treats vaginal changes due to menopause and moderate-to-severe painful intercourse caused by these changes. don t use it if you ve had unusual bleeding breast or uterine cancer blood clots, liver problems, stroke or heart attack, are allergic to any of its ingredients or think you re pregnant. side effects may include headache pelvic pain, breast pain vaginal bleeding and vaginitis. estrogens may increase your chances of getting cancer of the uterus, strokes, blood clots or dementia so use it for the shortest time based on goals and risks. estrogen should not be used to prevent heart disease heart attack, stroke or dementia. ask your doctor about premarin vaginal cream. don t just visit new york. visit tripadvisor new york. tripadvisor not only has millions of real traveler s reviews and opinions, but checks hundreds of websites, so people can get the best hotel prices. to plan, compare & book the perfect trip, visit tripadvisor.com today. we normally save the quiz portion of the show until the end but i wanted to give you a pop quiz right now. the question is this. there are about 2 billion children in the world today. in 85 years, in the year 2100, will there be 4 billion children, 3 billion children, or 2 billion children? the same number of children that are there today. my next guest hans rosling is a professor at the karolinsk institute in sweden. he s known around the world for his dazzling presentations about the world. from health, which is his specialty, to demographics, to education, to money. i caught his talk at davos where he asked that same question about how many children there would be in 2100. only 26% of the world s ceos and political leaders got the right answer. the same question was asked to a random group off chimpanzees and 33 rs of the apes got it right. yes, chimps might be smarter than davos attendees. so what is the right answer? professor rosling will tell you in a minute. welcome backing to the show. thank you very much. so you have started a project called the ignorance project. why? we were teaching about the world and i became sort of famous. and then they said let s check if people got it. so we started to use web-based survey companies which we partner with to see what do people know. and it turns out that they are not aware of some of the most amazing strides that have taken place, some of the amazing good news. what do we know about poverty, for example? we have the question asked here. in the last 20 years, did the percentage of people living in extreme poverty, did that almost double, remain the same, or did it half? really different alternatives. show you here the results from sweden and u.s. the fact is the right answer it halved. but only 23% in sweden and 5% in u.s. got it right. when we look at vaccines, another thing that s controversial in this country these days. huge evidence it s had enormous positive effects around the world. what do we know? this is the question we put. how many of the world s 1-year-old kids have got measle vaccines? measle is that well established vaccine that is so important. is it 2 out of 10 5 out of 10 or 8 out of 10. and this is how they answered in sweden and in u.s. the fact is that 8 out of 10 children in the whole world get these vxaccines. what is the biggest change in europe. you study all this stuff. if you were to say to somebody the most important change i notice that is taking place in the world today is what? i think what follows education, what follows girls, what follows getting out of poverty, it is the size of families. europe decreased the size of families. from 1800 it was six, it was five and it came down today below replacement level. even with immigration population is decreasing in europe. in america it came down slightly later. and there was a baby boom after the second world war, but it s down to two now. in asia, which was such a worry, people label it population bomb but also a nasty expression. this is what you could see from asia. it was indeed high all the way into the 1970s and it dropped back down. it s two today. in half of india, it is two children or less. africa is something happening? yes, indeed, it is, 4.5 today. we know that more or less this will happen into the future. we don t know how fast africa will come down. we don t know at this level. but this is a big change from lots of children, which many died, to few children, which almost all survived. now we have the map of the world with the populations of the world. we talked in the past about the world being characterized not by the decline of america but the rise of everyone else. show us that picture. what is happening in the world is that the population stops increasing in europe. today we have 1 billion in europe. it s almost stopped in the americas from south and north, 1 billion. in africa today, 1 billion and in asia, 4 billion. what will happen. up to mid sent united nations population division tells us no more europe almost the same in america, but there will be 1 billion more in asia. and with that the fast population growth in asia, can increase a little, can even start to decrease. by mid century, 1 billion more in africa. so africa will double. what happens at the end of the century. no more in america, no more in europe, no more in asia but most probably two more in africa. africa s population doubles in size. doubles twice. maybe if africa is very successful, three and a half. but there will be twice as many people in africa as in the americas and europe together. look, if i take north america and west european, 1 billion. this is east europe, this is latin america. you have less than 10% of the world population here in the old west. you have 80% of the population in asia and africa. now let s tell people the answer to the question. this is the question you put, less than 1 billion when i was born, 2 billion at the turn of the century. which one of these is right. how many children will there be 2 billion, 3 billion, or 4 billion. there are currently 2 billion. the answer is 2 billion. it may increase a little. it may even decrease. but the number increase in africa but decrease in asia and europe. when you asked the swedes, they answered like this. in u.s. they answered like this. can you see 11% swedes got it right, only 7% u.s. government. i went to the zoo and i asked the chimps, as you said. they get 33%. . i went to the zoo and i asked the chimps, as you said. they get 33%. it s random. these people answer according to preconceived ideas, how things were back then. so this is an important point. to get an answer that is worse than random means you re not ignorant. you have prejudices. prejudices, you re not upgrading. you learn something in school or in university like 20, 30 years ago, the problem is that the kids still learn that in school. they learn how the world was when their teachers graduate. we really have to start getting macronumbers right. the world has changed now. africa is also changing. when this evens out, we ll be around 10, 11 billion. that s what we have to feed in the world and we can do it. that s why you have the ignorance project, to make people aware of the realities of the world. because you can t discuss the future if you don t even know the present. hans rosling, pleasure to have you on. thank you. next on gps, yet another reason to be more optimistic about the world we live in. technology now puts you in charge of your destiny and makes your voice heard in ways unimaginable just 20 years ago. we re going to tell you how you can succeed and profit through all these changes. my guests will explain. i am totally blind. and sometimes i struggle to sleep at night, and stay awake during the day. this is called non-24, a circadian rhythm disorder that affects up to 70 percent of people who are totally blind. talk to your doctor about your symptoms and learn more by calling 844-824-2424. or visit your24info.com. don t let non-24 get in the way of your pursuit of happiness. two weeks later. look, credit karma are you talking to websites again? 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the evidence is 1,000 years ago if you wanted to affect a country or region, you had to be the king or the queen to do anything. 100 years ago, you would be the industrialist, robber barron. today any of us have access to the technology that only governments had 20, 30 years ago. access to crowd funding. someone who he a driven, passionate can actually make a difference, go and start a company that can positively impact the lives of millions, eventually billions of people. in a sense, that s really to me the most remarkable, hopeful sign that there are so many people whose potential is still untapped, who have this talent that is not used in any way, people in india, china, africa. so that s absolutely right. and we re living in a time where the number of people connected online back in 2010 was about 1.8 billion. over the next five years we re going up to 5 to potentially 7 billion people connected around the world. so there s 3 billion new minds entering the global economy. these are 3 billion minds not coming online like we did back in the mid- 90s, they are coming online with access to the world s information on google, amazon web services with cloud computing, cloud printing. that s an exciting time to be alive. the number of people solving problems i don t want to have to depend on the government or large corporations. if i care about something, i have the tools to solve it create a business and really drive a world of abundance. so when people think about this issue of innovation and the future, there is a school of thought that says, you know what, this all sounds good. these people like the two of you talk about as a gee-whiz quality to it. if you would look at productivity, the way in which things improved, give me 1880s or 1890s any day when you have electricity and indoor plumbing and hygiene, and those are much more important than twitter or an app. they may be much more important than twitter and app at that foundational level of taking care of your basic needs, right? but in terms of take it one step farther, the twitter and the app kind of democratizes the power for anybody to make a living, a platform. anybody can come in and develop on that. it opens up an entire world of entrepreneurial possibilities that wasn t available back in the 1880s. in 1880s everybody had to be a generalist. one of the things you talk about in this book is how to take advantage of this world of abundance. one of the things, technologies that will do it. you talk about things that democratize, things that dematerialize, take away the money. you think about craigslist or wikipedia. right? a lot of technologists out there are looking with someone to work with. the second part of the book is about mindset. about how do the most extraordinary entrepreneur is larry page elon musk richard branson, jeff what are the ways that you can think at scale. and then the final part of the book is the realization that we have something like crowd funding. 15 billion$15 billion will go to crowd building. so the key to many of these people is thinking at scale, that ability to think, you know of solving a huge problem, and building a huge company, is that different from just being an entrepreneur once to start a dry-cleaning business. one of the things i have noticed in interviewing all the entrepreneurs, there doesn t seem to be that much input, how wart hard you re going to work. everything else is going to be basically the same. one of the realizations is that the world s biggest problems are the world s biggest business opportunities. if you want to become a billionaire, help a billion people. that level of scale used the to be only with ge or coca-cola. today an entrepreneur using this hyper technical word they can upload to a crowd and make themselves available to a billion people. that is fundamentally availability like it wasn t so years ago. stop building photo sharing apps and part taking on the world s big biggest problems and provide a positive impact for the world. next on gps, the military draft. it s coming back not in the united states but in a country that may just be a canary in the coal mine. that might be a mixed metaphor but i ll explain when we come back. now? 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stay tuned, we ll tell you the krkt answer. this week s book of the week is bold whose authors, peter and steve on carvener were just on the eshow. this is a future that describes the future of technology but also how to profit from it. both elements the science and the maybe this book will help you make money, but i m sure it will help you in the 1973 the united states did away from the draft. at least 17 countries still have compulsory military service. that group will likely soon clue the small country of lithuania. the compulsory military service will increase the size of lithuania s small military by 20% annually. and this move comes weeks avenue the lithuanian government published an instruction manual for the public called things to know about readiness for emergency situations and warfare, as the ft ain ted out. this looks like a nation poised for war. russian s actions have caused great concern throughout the entire baltic region. according to lite wayne that s president, the country can never be too careful. she told the lithuanian press that the country should be able to defend itself for at least the time it would take nato to mobilize. in the most developed county eded continue innocent in the world are back in play. the correct answer to the gps challenge answer is b, winston churchill was the first foreign dignitary to address a joint meeting of congress three times. he gave his speeches 1941 1943 and near the beginning of the cold war in 1952. if the house republicans choose to mr. netanyahu may have an opportunity to make a fourth speech. but first he has to win the israeli elections later this week. thanks for being part of my program this week, i will see you next week. happening right now in the in the newsroom flight 370 vanished one year ago today. hundreds of pages of documents supporting back ground information have now been released. -plus hiding their faces behind pieces of paper. five suspects are now behind bars for the murder of juan of putin s biggest critics. and in dallas, police say an

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his first interview since isis released gruesome video documenting the murder of one of his nation s heroes, an air force pilot. what was his reaction as a king? the gloves have come off. as a father. disgust, sadness to the family. how far will his nation go in response to try to defeat isis? this is our war. then from next door, the man who could upset israeli politics. a poll this week has the party dead even with the party of the current prime minister benjamin netanyahu. elections are just 16 days away. what does herzog think of mr. netanyahu going to washington? i ll ask him. but first here is my take. washington is getting enthusiastic about idealogical warfare these days. not democrats versus republicans but rather americans versus islamists. having spent the last two weeks insisting we label jihadi terrorist islamic, many cry we must fight them on ideological front. fine. such a struggle against radical islam will be different from vast cultural struggles and will yield somewhat surprising recommendations for action. our image of an ideological war comes from the cold war, a titanic struggle between two complete world views. that struggle was so pervasive and intense because the enemies ideas were potentially attractive to anyone anywhere in the world. communism and capitalism were both secular ideologies, each trying to seduce the world s undecided into its camp. it s difficult to remember today that for decades communism was alluring to tens of millions of people. in the 1920s and 30s, many of the western world s greatest intellectual like irish playwright george bernard shaw and the historian h.g. wells were enamored of it. in 1940s, communist parties got large chunks of the vote in free elections in france and italy, leaving many observers to worry those countries would choose to become communists. around the world the appeal of socialist and communist ideas was real and at times very strong. radical islam by contrast is severely limited in its global allure. almost by definition it is deeply unattractive to all non-muslims. even within the muslim world radical islam does not do well. in the half of that world that votes, indonesia, india, bangladesh, turkey, iraq and pakistan. parties based on such ideologies have garnered very few votes. thus the ideological war today is really and crucially a struggle within islam. that s a war that has to be waged by muslims. if outsiders like america want to play a role, they should try to listen to and support those muslims fighting the good fight. it s irrelevant what barack obama wants to call isis. what matters is what the locals here in jordan and in other arab countries want to call it. against these people as you ll hear in a moment, the king of jordan thinks such people should be described as outlaws of islam. whatever the phrase, the effort seems similar to that of the obama administration, to deny these groups the mantle of religion, and in effect to ex-communicate them from mainstream islam. the ultimate irony is if one does understand the ideology of islamists properly it leads in one direction. graeme wood in his much discussed essay discussion greater military involvement against isis. the biggest proponent of an american invasion is the islamic state itself, he writes. the provocative videos are clearly made to draw america into the fight. and invasion would be a huge propaganda victory for jihadists worldwide. instead counsels containment, selective airstrikes and support from muslims who are working to dissuade their brethren from falling prey to radical islam. in other words, fighting an ideological war against isis actually points one towards a sophisticated strategy that employs military restraint and political cooperation with arabs. i wonder if those clamoring for such a struggle are on board. for more, go to cnn.com/fareed and read more. and let s get started. king abdullah ii ascended jordan s throne just over 16 years ago. there arguably has never been a more tense time during his reign. by the u.n. s count, there were 800,000 refugees in january. some say the number is higher. one refugee camp is now the fourth biggest city in jordan. outside jordan s borders, it has isis in iraq and syria, which is spilled over into lebanon and turkey and now perhaps even further afield. it has the palestinian problem in israel and the west bank right next door. most recently, abdullah has had to lead his nation through the sadness and anger that flowed from the brutal murder of one of the nation s air force pilots by isis. we met in the al-hashmiya palace in jordan s capital. your imaginemajesty thank you for joining us. good to be here. this the first time you re speaking to the world since the death of the jordanian pilot and that brutal video. tell us what was your reaction when you first saw the video? in actual fact, i didn t see the video. many of us refused to see what i think is propaganda. obviously, i had a detailed brief of what happened. we couldn t escape seeing, obviously, pictures in the newspapers. disgust, sadness to the family. i had met the family on many occasions. my heart went out to the father, the mother, brothers and sisters, his wife had only been married five months. anger as son of the army forces, god bless his soul, he s a brother in arms. so i think all soldiers past and present were disgusted by the brutality of what moab was put through. i think if isis or dash, as we call them, try to intimidate jordanians, i think just have the reverse effect. if you look at our history, we re a country that s used to being outgunned and outnumbered. we ve always punched way about our weight. i think if anything dash has us as a tiger by the tail. it just motivated jordanians to rally around the flag and the gloves have come off. what do you think they are trying to do with the video? they are always trying to intimidate scare, put fear into people s hearts. this is a group that works by intimidation. they are trying to invent falsely, link to caliphates length to our history in islam, which has no truth or bearing to our history. to bring in deluded young men and women who think this is sort of an islamic nation, it has nothing to do with our history. actually the barbarity with the way they executed our brave hero shocked the muslim world, specifically jordanians from this region. it had nothing to do with islam. intimidation is the major lesson. jordanian government promised an earth shattering response, as i recall. what we ve seen so far isn t that dramatic. is there more to come? how should we interpret what is going to happen? earth shattering from all military capabilities is not something that happens overnight. there has been a massive response from their campaign. there are continued operations going on in syria. we are coordinating with our friends in iraq. there is a long-term approach to this issue. and again, this is one of the issues that i d like to point out to you. one of the things that the isis and daesh has been saying, why are we picked on by fellow muslims, why are jordanians getting involved in this war. this has been our war. it has been for a long time. against these people for lack of a better term, these are outlaws, in a way, of islam that have been trying to use expansionist policy. the minute they set up this irresponsible caliphate to try to expand their dominion over muslims. they try to make themselves look as the victims. it is us muslims preying on them. what about the hundreds if not thousands of muslims they have killed in syria and iraq over the past year and a half. the tribes we have a responsibility to reach out to in eastern syria, important in western iraq that had been executed in large numbers over the past year and a half. so this is our war. we have a moral responsibility to reach out to those muslims to protect them and to stop them before they reach our border. in syria, are you not inevitably aligned with the assad government in the sense that if isis is your main threat winston churchill said if hitler were to invade hell, i would make common cause with the devil. do you have to de facto side with assad. there s the history dealing with regime and history of dealing with isis or daesh. we have always believed there has to be a political solution for syria. what has taken prominence at the moment is isis, daesh at this stage. are we trying to chew gum and walk at the same time? this has to be decided by the international community. we believe there has to be a political solution that brings sort of the moderate forces and the regime to the table because there is this bigger problem. that has not been clarified at the moment. coalition, arab muslim western, so to speak, can only do so much in syria against isis. but at the end of the day it has to be syrians themselves especially when you want to reach heartland of isis. when we come back with his majesty king abdullah ii, i will ask him what he wants to call the radical islamists or radical extremists that president obama doesn t want to call islam, when we come back. i am totally blind. i lost my sight in afghanistan but it doesn t hold me back. i go through periods where it s hard to sleep at night and stay awake during the day. non-24 is a circadian rhythm disorder that affects up to 70% of people who are totally blind. talk to your doctor about your symptoms and learn more by calling 844-844-2424. or visit my24info.com. don t just visit new york. visit tripadvisor new york. tripadvisor not only has millions of real traveler s reviews and opinions, but checks hundreds of websites, so people can get the best hotel prices. to plan, compare & book the perfect trip, visit tripadvisor.com today. we are back with his majesty king of jordan king abdullah ii. president obama has gotten into a little trouble or received some criticism because he says he doesn t want to call groups like isis islamic extremists because he doesn t want to give them the mantle of legitimacy by acknowledging they are islamic. do you think he s right? i think he is right. i think this is something that has to be understood on a much larger platform. they are looking for legitimacy they don t have inside of islam. when we re asked in debate are you moderate or extremists, what these people want is to be called extremist. they take that as a badge of honor. if you ask me moderate or extremists, i m a muslim. these people, terms using more and more, they are in a way outlaws that are on the fringe of islam. and if you look at sort of the way they are presented inside they are inside sunni islam. sunni islam is 1.5 billion muslims. they represent only 1%. out of that may be 200 to 500,000 of these people. they are the crazies of this element. to label islam under the term of extremist and moderates is completely wrong. i think, by making this comparison they are extremist muslims is exactly what they want. they are muslims. i don t know what they are. they definitely do not have any relationship to our faith. when baghdadi, the leader of isis came out with his manifest even extremist organizations completely backed away from what he said. he has nothing to do with the tenets of islam. itis tolerance that reaches to other people. how should the west respond to this? arab response, muslim response, or should the west be in the lead? this has to be unified. i ve said this to leaders both in islamic and arab world and to the world in general. this is a third world war by other means. this brings muslims, christians, other religions together in this generational fight that all of us have to be together. so it s not a western fight. this is a fight inside of islam where everybody comes together against these outlaws so to speak together. it s a short-term part of this, military part of the issue. there s medium part, which is security part to it. there s a long-term element to this, which is obviously the ideological one. that s the one more complicated and more difficult. in sunni islam, as you know, there is no priestly hierarchy. there are no popes or really anything like that. but there is historically a great weight given to people who have some family association with the prophet. your family is regarded as descending from the prophet. given that, do you think that when you hear talk not just from people in isis but people who did the things they did in paris about blasphemy and punishments of blasphemy, do you think any of this has any basis in islam? again, those that are trying to use there s a difference, and i m sure we can get into this, between freedom of speech and hate speech. both ronnie and i president of paris, the right thing to do to stand-up against violence and terrorism. se also stand in the name of a young muslim policeman, the first policeman to be at the scene of that crime who paid with his life defending the laws of france. we were there to defend those innocents killed in the name of islam, whether it was the 150 odd school children killed in a school in pakistan, whether it was the thousands that were killed in a nigerian village in a single day or thousands of muslims killed every day in syria and iraq. so the issue of the blasphemy, if anybody understood the prophet, may peace be upon him, and how he used to look at life, he was persecuted at the beginning of bringing islam together, and he always forgave. there were some brutal things that happened to him, his family, and he always forgave those around him. so for these extremists now to be able to sort of be the defenders of his honor, when they don t understand who he was, i find so insulting in a way, because he would have always forgiven. but that s not what they want to do. they want to create that hatred. my brother again spoke out that the sort of vilifying of religions is something we all have to stand together. then you see the good stories unfortunately not reported enough in the media. so when you look at what s happened over the past several months, when people or extremists in sweden went and sort of painted insulting graffiti on a mosque door in the city in sweden, the swedish people came out and put paper hearts on the door of that mosque. islamic groups went out chanting against islam. the great cathedral of cologne turned out its lights in protest against that. last week young muslims in oslo held hands around a synagogue to show a ring of peace. these are the messages that we re all united together against this fight. and not to fall into the trap that the extremists want on either side to create hate between religions. that s what we have to concentrate on. when we come back, more of my interview with the king of jordan. i will ask him where isis gets its money when we come back. when heartburn comes creeping up on you. fight back with relief so smooth. .it s fast. tums smoothies starts dissolving the instant it touches your tongue .and neutralizes stomach acid at the source. tum, tum tum tum. smoothies! only from tums. i take prilosec otc each morning for my frequent heartburn. because it gives me. zero heartburn! prilosec otc. the number 1 doctor-recommended frequent heartburn medicine for 9 straight years. one pill each morning. 24 hours. zero heartburn. we are back with his majesty, king abdullah ii of jordan. people, how they finance themselves, sophisticated media operation. let s start with the money. how do they have so much cash? money does get supplied by individuals in our part of the world. you ve seen u.n. resolution recently to try and move us into international community to make sure those accesses are cut off. you ve also got to remember that isis was fairly successful in taking over territory whether it was in syria and more recently in iraq where they overran banks and managed to capture a lot of money. then they ran their own economic industries so they were selling a lot of oil, producing about a billion dollars worth of revenue a year. that s been degraded quite significantly since because of coalition airstrikes. but they had this own ability to run their own economy quite successfully. do you think that defeating isis will require or should require american boots on the ground, american ground forces? look, i think that a lot of us are looking at this, it being sort of our fight, arab muslim challenge, trying to keep western boots off the ground is i think an essential part of how we move forward. i think this is why most of us are looking at it that way. at the end of the day why? do you think it would be a gift to isis to have americans? that could be an element of it, because i think sort of the perception they would use occupation as the wrong issue. they will obviously always use the idea of this is a crusade, which it is not. actually, this is our fight. at the same time when you look at syria and also iraq, it s the integrity and sovereignty of those countries. it has to be syrians dealing with their issues and iraq is dealing with theirs. it doesn t mean they can t be aided by air, possibly special forces types of operations in the future. those are things being looked at. what i think is more important to look at challenges and holistic approach, the challenging in 2015. the fixation today is on iraq and syria. we can t forget the problems of sinai. we can t forget the problems of libya. we must not forget the challenges to africa boko haram, shabaab and the problems these franchises, so to speak are presenting to asia. so like minded countries need to come together and bone up to how we can share responsibility, work together and deal with these problems in a holistic approach. do you think prime minister netanyahu has genuinely been making an effort to create a two-state solution to the palestinian problem? at this stage, nothing proactive will happen from either side unfortunately until we get passed the elections. my hope is that once we get past the elections, there is a serious commitment from both sides to move on the two-state solution. the reason is if this is our generational fight against these outlaws of islam, we have been talking about this global threat. what these people use as one of their main recruiting issues, rightly or wrongly, because the israelis will say these problems have nothing to do with us and get upset when i say all roads lead to jerusalem, they use this as an argument. we saw that the spike in recruiting in the summer when the wars happened and 700 women and children died as a result, foreign fighters flocked to syria and to iraq because of what they perceive as the justice of the palestinians and of jerusalem. so if we re going to have any chance of winning this generational fight, this third world war by other means, if we can t fix this israeli, palestinian problem, this ongoing situation that s been there for many decades, then we have at least one hand tied behind our backs if we re to deal with this. this is the challenge to both israeli and palestinian leadership. you have to understand this problem has become much bigger than ourselves. how are we going to be able to win this? how are we going to justify us muslims with the international community, fighting against these people if this thing keeps bubbling. that s the major challenge, i think. your majesty, pleasure to have you on. thank you so much. good morning and welcome to a gps newsbreak. i m dana bash. fareed will be back in a few moments with much more from amman jordan on gps including an interview with the man who could disrupt israeli politics and israeli prime minister netanyahu s plans. first we get the latest news this morning. we start in moscow where organizers say more than 70,000 people showed up today to march in memory of boris nemtsov. he was one of president bush president s vladimir putin s fiercest rivals and critics. he was gunned down friday on a bridge in the shadow of the kremlin. let s go to where we have reporters standing by. we ll start with matthew chance. matthew, what can you tell us about the mood there at this point? is it more sadness or anger or both? i think it s a combination of both of those feelings. there s a lot of sadness about the fact that boris nemtsov one of the country s most prominent opposition figures has been gunned down so ruthlessly on the bridge, as you say, a short distance from the kremlin. you can see traffic is back here now. just about an hour ago there were thousands of people who turned out to pay their respects, to express their sadness but also their anger at the direction which russia has turned with the killing of boris nemtsov. one of the signs that struck me, propaganda kills, one of the slogans brandished on signs. a reference to this idea that russia has become a place where if you re opposed to the kremlin, if you reject what the kremlin says, you become an enemy of the state. that s something that s been actively propagated by the governments of this country. it s within that context that boris nemtskov was killed. that s what the people who came to this rally were concerned about. dana? what do we know about the suspect or possible suspect. authorities, apparently have a digital sketch. can you give us any more information about that? reporter: yeah. a digital sketch. it s pretty vague. there s some vague description put out by the police. they are looking for somebody who is between 170 and 176 centimeters tall, things like that. i m not clear it s going to be the kind of description that is going to lead to a conviction necessarily in this case. that s one of the big concerns here, too. russia, even though it says it s going to bring the culprits to justice in this killing, it s got a very patchy record, indeed, in solving these kinds of political killings. the killers back in 2006 of a prominent journalist, who was a fierce critic of the kremlin. he has been sent to prison but the person that ordered the killing has not been found. so russia has a very patchy record. it is a great deal of scepticism amongst ordinary russians that it s going to be any different this time. matthew, thank you so much. this is certainly a case where you think you re watching some kind of thriller. unfortunately it isn t, it s reality. thank you. we re going to go on to other news. yesterday venezuelan president declared authorities have arrested an unspecified number of americans, including an american pilot, for espionage. maduro claimed united states backed a coup plot against him. the u.s. denied it but the president also announced several high-profile u.s. officials including george w. bush and former vice president dick cheney would be banned from venezuela. that s all the time we have for this cut-in. i m dana bash. this has been gps and a news update. fareed will be back in just a minute from ahman, jordan. he ll have a man that might be israeli prime minister netanyahu s political nightmare. it s not president obama but herzog. isaac herzog, you re going to meet him in a moment. that still exists. polident s unique micro clean formula works in just 3 minutes, killing 99.99% of odor causing bacteria. for a cleaner, fresher brighter denture everyday. i am totally blind. and sometimes i struggle to sleep at night, and stay awake during the day. this is called non-24, a circadian rhythm disorder that affects up to 70 percent of people who are totally blind. talk to your doctor about your symptoms and learn more by calling 844-824-2424. or visit your24info.com. don t let non-24 get in the way of your pursuit of happiness. okay.listen up. i m here to get the lady of the house back on her feet. ohhhh. okay veggies you re cool. mayo, corn dogs you are so out of here! ahh. cause i m reworking the menu. keeping her healthy and you on your toes. the complete balanced nutrition of great tasting ensure. 24 vitamins and minerals antioxidants and 9 grams of protein. i see you cupcake. uh oh the #1 doctor recommended brand. ensure. nutrition in charge! in our house, we do just about everything online. and our old internet just wasn t cutting it. so i switched us from u-verse to xfinity. they have the fastest, most reliable internet. which is perfect for me, because i think everything should just work. works? works. works! works? works. works. welcome back to gps from amman, jordan. on tuesday prime minister benjamin netanyahu will address the united states congress to warn it directly of the iranian nuclear threat. it s a move security adviser susan rice called destructive to the fabric of the relationship between the two allies. two weeks later israel will hold national elections. labor party chairman and leader of the opposition isaac herzog has emerged as chief rival for the job. a poll this week had the two parties tied for the top number of seats in the new parliament. he joined me from tel aviv. mr. herzog, pleasure to have you on. pleasure to be with you, fareed. this week you said prime minister netanyahu s decision to speak to the united states congress two weeks before the election, without informing the white house, was political spin. what did you mean by that? let me make it clear to the american public and to our viewers that there is no difference in israel as to the strategic threat that emanates from the iranian nuclear program. clearly no israeli leader, and me included, will ever accept a nuclear iran. however, the way to deal with it in my mind should be different. and i think netanyahu s speech in congress is a mistake. need to work together intimately with those negotiating with the international agreement with iran and make sure that this agreement is ironclad on delivery, namely there will never be an iranian nuclear bomb. when arguments emanate, such as the arguments surrounding the speech of netanyahu in congress, there are questions that are raised. there is daylight between us and the administration and that s not good. and you would not have gone? had you been prime minister you would not have accepted the invitation to speak to congress two weeks before the election? i would make sure that nothing of this sort would be viewed as partisan in any way. the united states was always strategic for us, was never partisan. israel knew how to work the floor both sides and keep unique relations with both parties. i definitely believe that it is a mistake to present an elected official in the united states with a question whether he prefers the white house or prefers israel. it shouldn t be a question. we have common grounds. you know, we share the same objective of making sure that iran won t have nuclear weapons. iran is a rogue state, a dangerous state. iran spreads hatred all over the world. iran should be demanded by the international community in these negotiations to make it clear it accepts israel as part of the family of nations rather than calling for its eradication. these are the issues we should be talking about. we should define intimately between the administrations what is exactly a bad deal. the president himself said rightly so, a bad deal is no deal. israeli ngo has released a report there has been a 40% rise in settlement activity construction in the west bank since last year. a lot of people believe at this point a two-state solution is really going to be very, very difficult. do you believe if you were prime minister that there is an actual path to a two-state solution and what is it? it s materialistic. i don t agree with all these opinions. i think that it is viable. however, right now our relationship with the palestinians is at a dead-end. it s actually one of the worst periods in the relationship. the palestinians opted for unilateralism. they have come forward with unilateral steps both to the security council as well as going to the international criminal court against our soldiers who have protected our nation against palestinian terror from hamas. we will stop the unnaturalit lateral action with the palestinians. i will try to reunite the israelis and palestinians. and trying our best again. not give up , but try our best again. what do you think about the united states awarding damages against the palestinian authority. if you are trying to make peace, is that something that is not going to help if you re a partner? or how do you view it. first and foremost we need to negotiate. that s what we need to do. we need to talk to each other. i have met prime minister abbecauseabbas in the last couple of years. i actually asked him, zubldo you believe there will come a day when there would be a relationship with israeli leaders? i will say to our viewers, first and foremost we need to built trust with our neighbors. not to give up try, i m not naive, i think that it will be much more difficult to start again, but we should start again. what would be the biggest difference mr. hertzog between you being prime minister and abbas being prime minister a month from now? there are many differences, first of all, internally i offer a totally different socioeconomic platform that strengthens and empowers the people which returns money to them which has a better division of income in our note and gives them hope. and secondly i want to bring hope to our people to my people as well as to our neighbors. i believe that in our region everybody ought to lead quiet, tranquil and successful life. we have to do whatever we can to give hope to our childrened and to the next generations, and i will try my best i will try again, i will talk to the region. israel should be part of that coalition which fights extremism and works together towards peace and works together towards stability in the middle east. pleasant to have you on. thank you, fareed. that was israel s labor party leader isaac hertzog. we asked prime minister abbas to appear but he declined our invitation. the longest journey was completed this week we ll tell you where it was and why. when heartburn comes creeping up on you. fight back with relief so smooth. .it s fast. tums smoothies starts dissolving the instant it touches your tongue .and neutralizes stomach acid at the source. tum, tum tum tum. smoothies! only from tums. this week the federal communications commission voted to adopt strong net neutrally rules which would prevent certain potentially charging for preferential service. which brings me to my question. where does the united states rank globally in terms of broad band speed, is it second? ninth, 15th or 27th? stay tune and we ll tell you the correct answer. this week s book of the week is called disgraced. it s about the slaughter in islam between radicals and moderates. it s a riveting production and if you re not in new york you can buy the book and use your imagination. it won the pulitzer prize. now for the last look, the world s lowngest rail journey was completed this week. a chinese commerce train finished the journey from china to madrid. that means it passed through no fewer than eight countries. the journey was more than 8,000 miles each way and each leg took roughly three weeks. to put that in perspective. the round trip distance is equivalent to traveling from los angeles to new york approximately 6 1/2 timings or from l.a. to sidney and back again. the direct link to the west has been called the 21st century silk road by chinese firms. it isn t just this isolated route. last year the chinese launched a fund that it s officially the year of the sheep, or by some translations the ram or the goat. but perhaps, the silk worm would be more appropriate. the correct answer to the gps challenge question is d, as of this friday the u.s. ranks 27th in broad band download speed, right behind hungary and bulgaria according to the latest information from internet analysts. not great considering as others have pointed out, americans pay a lot for their internet. according to new america, the majority of the united states internet customers pay more than their counter parts in europe and asia. thanks for being part of my program this week coming from amman, jordan. we ll see you next week in new york. happening right now in the newsroom. their signs read i will not be afraid, thousands take to the streets of moscow mourning the death of a critic of vlad mere putin. and three teenagers believed to be on their way to join ace sis. and in about three hours from now, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu touches down in the u.s. with his trip mired in controversy, will his speech the to congress backfire? 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but perhaps the most tangible evidence of your support has been through your commitment to foreign aid into israel missile defense programs. because of this administrations dedication to israel, more than $400 million has been invested in iron dome. [applause] your support, mr. vice president during operation killer of defense and commitment to these life-saving systems enables israel to defend itself while preventing a wider conflict. million of israelis are able to sleep more soundly tonight because of the investment and commitment, you, president obama, and congress have made to israel s security. [applause] vice president biden, please give our thanks to president obama for his support in strengthening the u.s.-israel alliance. [applause] and please thank him for going to israel in a few weeks. [applause] this trip sends an important message to the people of israel and the world about america s commitment to the jewish state. ladies and gentlemen, i am honored to introduce and welcome a friend who stands with us now and had stood with us always, a steadfast supporter of the u.s.-israel relationship, the vice president of the united states, joe biden. [applause] that was really nice. thank you, mr. president. it s great to be here. it s great to be here. ladies and gentlemen, oh, what a difference four years make. i look out there and see an old friend, annette lantos. annette, how are you? her husband tom lantos, a survivor, was my assistant, was my foreign policy adviser for years, and tom used to say all the time, joe he talked that hungarian accent joe, we must do another fundraiser for aipac. [laughter] i did more fundraisers for aipac in the 1970s and early 1980s than just about as many as anybody. thank god you were not putting on shows like this. we would have never made it. we would have never made it. my lord, it s so great to be with you all and great to see you. mr. president, thank you so much for that kind introduction, and president-elect bob cohen, the entire aipac board of directors, i m delighted to be with you today, but i m particularly delighted to be with an old friend and he is an old friend. we use that phrase lightly in washington, but it s real, and i think he d even tell you. ehud barak, it s great to be with you. great to be with you. [applause] there is a stand-up guy. there is a stand-up guy, standing up for his country, putting his life on the line for his country, and continuing to defend the values that we all share. i am a fan of the man. thanks for being here, ehud. it is good to be with you again. ladies and gentlemen, a lot of you know me if you re old enough. some of you do not know me, and understand i can t see now, but on the bleachers on either side, i am told you have 2,000 young aipac members here. we ve talked about this a lot over the years. we ve talked about it a lot. this is the lifeblood. this is the connective tissue. this is the reason why no american will ever forget. you have got to keep raising it. ladies and gentlemen, we have stood shoulder-to-shoulder, a lot of us, on the auditorium, defending the legitimate interests of israel and our enduring commitment over the last four years. many of you in this hall i won t start to name them, but many of you in this hall, starting with annette lantos husband, who is not here, god rest his soul many of you in this hall have been my teachers, my mentors, and my educators, and that is not hyperbole. you literally have been, but my education started, as some of you know, at my father s dinner table. my father is what you would have called a righteous christian. we gathered at my dinner table to have conversation and, incidentally, eat, as we were growing up. it was at that table i first heard the phrase it is overused sometimes today, but in a sense not used meaningfully enough, first i heard the phrase never again. it was that table that i learned that the only way to ensure that it could never happen again was the establishment and existence of a secure jewish state of israel. [applause] i remember my father, a christian, being baffled at the debate taking place at the end of world war ii, talking about it i don t remember it at could be a debate about whether or not, within the community, of whether or not to establish the state of israel. my father would say, were he a jew, he would never, never entrust the security of his people to any individual nation, no matter how good and how noble it was, like the united states. everybody knows it s real but i want you to know one thing with some of you i have met with a lot of you over the last 40 years, but the last four years as well, president obama shares my commitment. we both know that israel faces new threats, new pressures, and uncertainty. the defense minister and i have discussed it often. in the area of national security, the threats to israel s existence continue, but they have changed as the world and the region have changed over the last decade. the arab spring, at once full of both hope and uncertainty, has required israel and the united states to reassess old and settled relationships. iran s dangerous nuclear weapons program and its continued support of terrorist organizations like hezbollah and hamas not only endanger israel but endanger the world. [applause} attempts of much of the world to isolate and delegitimize the state of israel are increasingly common and taken as the norm in other parts of the world. all these pressures are similar but different and they ve put enormous pressure on the state of israel. we understand that and we especially understand that if we make a mistake, it is not a threat to our existence, but if israel makes a mistake, it could be a threat to its very existence. [applause] that is why from the moment the president took office, he has acted swiftly and decisively to make clear to the whole world and to israel that even as circumstances have changed, one thing has not, our deep commitment to the security of the state of israel. that has not changed. that will not change as long as i and he are president and vice president of the united states. it is in our naked self- interest, beyond the moral imperative. all of you, i thank you for continuing to remind the nation and the world of that commitment, and while we may not always agree on tactics i have been there for a lot. i have been there for a lot of prime ministers. we have always disagreed on tactics. we have always disagreed at some point or another on tactics. we have never disagreed on the strategically imperative that israel must be about to protect its own, must be about to do it on its own, and we must always stand with israel to be sure that can happen. [applause] and we will. that is why we work so hard to make sure israel has its qualitative edge in the mist of the great recession. i have served with eight presidents of the united states of america, and i can assure you unequivocally, no president has done as much to physically secure the state of israel is president barack obama. [applause] president obama last year requested $3.1 billion in military assistance for israel, the most in history. he has directed close coordination strategically and operational between our government and our israel partners, including our political, military, and intelligence leadership. i can say with certitude, in the last eight presidents, i do not know any time when there have been many meetings as much coordination between our intelligence services and our military. we are getting tired of traveling back across the ocean, i think. under this administration, we have held the most regular and largest ever joint military exercises. we have invested $275 million in iron dome, including $70 million that the president directed to be spent last year on american bases to increase the production of iron dome batteries and interceptors. [applause] not long ago, i would have had to describe to an audience what iron dome was, how it would work, why funding it mattered. i do not have to explain to anybody anymore. everybody gets it. everybody saw. the world saw firsthand why it was and remained so critical. for too long, when those sirens blared in the streets and the cities bordering gaza, the only defense had been a bomb shelter, but late last year, iron dome made a difference. when the launched rockets rained on israel, iron dome shot them out of the sky, intercepting nearly 400 rockets in november alone. it was our unique partnership israel and the united states that pioneered this technology and funded it, and it is in that same spirit that we are working with israel to join and develop new systems called arrow and david s sling, interceptors that can defeat long-range threats from iran, syria, and hezbollah, equally as urgent. [applause] we are working to deploy a powerful new radar, networked with american early-warning satellites that can buy israel valuable time in the event of an attack. this is what we do. this is what we do to ensure israel can counter and defeat any threat from any corner. [applause] but that is only the first piece of this equation. let me tell you and i expect i share the view of many of you that have been involved with aipac for a long time. let me tell you what worries me the worst, what worries more than anytime in the 40 years i have been engaged and is different than any time in my career and that is the wholesale seemingly coordinated effort to delegitimize israel as a jewish state. that is the single most dangerous, pernicious change that has taken place, in m humble opinion, since i have been engaged. [applause] ladies and gentlemen, it matters. it matters. to put it bluntly, there is only one nation, only one nation in the world that has unequivocally without hesitation and consistently confronted the efforts to delegitimize israel. at every point in out administrative, at every juncture, we have stood up on the legitimacy on behalf of legitimacy of the state of israel. president obama has been a bulwark against those insidious efforts in every step of the world. wherever he goes in the world, he makes clear that although he wants better relations with muslim-majority countries, israel s legitimacy and our support for it is not a matter of debate. [applause] it is not a matter of debate. [applause] it is simple, and he means it. [applause] it is not a matter of debate. do not raise it with us. do not raise it with us. it is not negotiable. as recently as last year, the only country on the united nations human rights council to vote against i think it is 36 countries. do not hold me the exact number. the only country on the human rights council of the united nations to vote against the establishment of a fact-finding mission on settlements was the united states of america. we opposed the unilateral efforts of the palestinian authority s to circumvent direct negotiations by pushing for statehood and multilateral organizations like unesco. we stood strong with israel and its right to defend itself after a gallstone report was issued in 2009 while the rest of the world, including some of our good friends, were prepared to embrace the report. we came out straightforwardly, expressed our concern and with recommendation. when israel was isolated in the aftermath of the gaza flotilla in 2012, i was in africa. we spent a lot of time on the phone. ehud and the defense minister and i and bb and i spent a lot of time on that phone with my interceding going to the united nations directly by telephone, speaking with the secretary-general, making sure that one thing was made clear. israel had the right to impose that blockade. [applause] ladies and gentlemen, that is why i refuse to attend events such as the 10th anniversary of 2001 world conference on racism that shamefully equated zionism with racism. [applause] that is why we rejected anti- semitic rhetoric from any corner and from leaders of any nation, and that is why i am proud to say my friend, the new secretary of state, john kerry spoke out against that kind of language in ankara just this friday. [applause] by the way, he is a good man. you are going to be happy with kerry. it was in the strongest terms that we vigorously opposed the palestinian bid for nonmember observer status in the general assembly, and we will continue to oppose any efforts to establish a state of palestine through unilateral actions. there is no shortcut to peace. there is no shortcut to face- to-face negotiations. there is no shortcut to guarantees made looking in the eyes of the other party. ladies and gentleman, israel s own leaders currently understand the imperative of peace. prime minister netanyahu, defense minister barak, president peres, they have all called for a two-state solution and an absolute secure democratic and jewish state of israel that live side-by-side, an impendent palestinian state, but it takes two to tango, and the rest of the arab world has to get in the game. [applause] we are under no illusions about how difficult it will be to achieve. even some of you in the audience said, why do we about talk it anymore? well, it is going to require hard steps on both sides, but it is in all of our interests israel s interest, the united states interest, the interest of the palestinian people. we all have a profound interest in peace, so to use an expression of a former president, bill clinton, we have got to be caught trying. we have got to be caught trying, so we remain deeply engaged. as president obama has said, while there are those who question whether this goal may ever be reached, we make no apologies for continue to pursue that goal to pursue a better future, and he will make that clear when he goes to israel later this month. we are also mindful that pursuing a better future for israel means helping israel confront the myriads of threats it faces in the neighborhood. it is a tough neighborhood, and it starts with iran. it is not only in israel s interest, and everybody should it is not only in israel s interest that iran does not acquire a nuclear weapon. it is in the interest of the united states of america. [applause] it is simple. as a matter of fact, it is in the interest of the entire world. [applause] iran s acquisition of a nuclear weapon not only would present an existential threat to israel, it would present a threat to our allies and our partners and to the united states, and it would trigger an arms race a nuclear arms race in the region and make the world a whole lot less stable. we have a shared strategic commitment. let me make clear what that commitment is. it is to prevent iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon, period. period. end of discussion. period. to prevent, not contain, prevent. [applause] the president flatly stated that, as many of you in this room have heard me say, and he always kids me about this. we will be in the security room, and i know that debbie wasserman-schultz knows this because she hears it. he always says, you know, he will turn to other people and say, as joe would say, big nations cannot bluff. big nations cannot bluff. presidents of the united states cannot and do not bluff. president barack obama is not bluffing. [applause] he is not bluffing. [applause] we are not looking for war. we are looking to and ready to negotiate peacefully, but all options including military force are on the table, but as i made clear at the munich security conference last month, our strong preference the world s preference is for a diplomatic solution, so while that window is closing, we believe there is still time and space to achieve the outcome. we are in constant dialogue, sharing information with the israeli military, the israeli intelligence service, israeli political establishment at every level. we are taking all of the steps required to get there, but i want to make clear to you something god forbid the need to act occurs, it is critically important for the whole world to know we did everything in our power. we did everything that reasonably could have been expected to avoid any confrontations. that matters because god forbid if we have to act, it is important that the rest of the world is with us. we have a united international community. [applause] we have a united international community right behind these unprecedented sanctions. we have left iran more isolated that ever. when we came to office, as you remember, not because of the last administration, just a reality, iran was on the ascendancy in the region. it is no longer on the ascendancy. the purpose of this pressure is not to punish. it is to convince iran to make good on its international obligations. put simply, we are sharpening a choice that the iranian leadership has to make. they can make their obligation to meet their obligations and give the international community ironclad confidence in the nature of their program or they can continue down the path that they are on to further isolate and mounting pressure of the world, but even preventing iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon still leaves them a dangerous neighbor, particularly to israel. they are using terrorist proxies to spread violence in the region and beyond region, putting israelis, americans, citizens of every continent in danger. for too long hezbollah has tried to pose as nothing more than a political and social welfare group while plotting against innocence in eastern europe, from eastern europe to east africa, southeast asia to south america. we know what israel knows. hezbollah is a terrorist organization. period. [applause] we are urging every nation in the world that we deal with and we deal with them all to start treating hezbollah as such and naming them as terrorist organizations. [applause] this is not just about a threat to israel and the united states. this is about global terrorist organizations that have targets people on several continents. we will say and we will do our part to stop that, and we ask the world to do the same. that is why we have been talking to our friends in europe to forcefully declare hezbollah a terrorist organization. this past month, i have made the case to the leading european heads of state, as barak and israelis know, together, we have to continue to confront hezbollah wherever it sows the seeds of hatred and stands against the nations that sponsored campaigns of terror. ladies and gentle, the united states and israel have a shared interest in syria as well. assad has shown his father s disregard for human life and dignity, engaging in the brutal murder of his citizens. our position on that tragedy cannot be clearer assad must go, but we are not signing up for one murderous gang replacing another in damascus. [applause] that is why our focus is on supporting legitimate opposition not only committed to a peaceful syria but to a peaceful region. that is why we are carefully vetting those to whom we provide assistance. that is why while putting relentless pressure on assad and sanctioning the pro-regime iranian-back militia, we have also designated al-nusra upfront as a terrorist organization and because we recognize the grave danger of assad s chemical and biological arsenal pose to israel and the united states and the whole world, we have set a clear red line against the use and the transfer of those weapons, and we will work together to prevent this conflict and these horrific weapons from threatening israel s security. while we try to ensure an end to the dictatorship in syria, we have supported and will support a genuine transition to an egyptian democracy. we have no illusions. we know how difficult this will be and how difficult it is. there has obviously been a dramatic change in egypt. a lot of it has given us hope and a lot if it has given us pause and a lot or it has caused fears in other quarters. it is not about us but it profoundly affects us. we need to be invested in egypt s success and stability. a stable, successful egypt will translate into a stable region. we are not looking at what is happening in egypt through rose-colored glasses. again, our eyes are wide open. we have no illusions about the challenges that we face, but we also know this there s no legitimate alternative, at this point, to engagement. only through engagement that with egypt that we can focus egypt s leaders on the need to repair international obligations respect international obligations, including and especially its peace treaty with israel. it is only through active engagement that we can help ensure that hamas does not rearm through the sinai and put the people of israel at risk. it is only through engagement that we can concentrate egypt s government on the imperative of confronting extremists, and it is only through engagement that we can encourage egypt s leaders to make reforms that will spark economic growth and stabilize the democratic process, and it is all tough, and there is no certainty. there is no certitude about anything in the arab spring. i expect president obama to cover each of these issues in much greater detail. i have learned one thing, as i was telling the president. i learned, it is never a good idea, ehud, to steal the president s thunder. it is never a good idea to say what he is going to say the next day, so i am not going to any further detail on this, but much greater detail he will discuss this when he goes to israel later this month, just before passover begins. i have to admit, i am a little jealous that he gets to be the one to say this year in jerusalem but i am the vice president. i am not the president. [applause] when i told him that, i am not sure he thought i was serious or not but anyway. [laughter] and it will come as no surprise to you, the president and i not only are partners, we ve become friends and he and i have spoken at length about this trip and i can assure you he is particularly looking forward to having a chance to hear directly from the people of israel, and beyond their political leaders, and particularly the younger generation of israelis an i must note, just as i m getting a chance to speak to 2,000 young american jews involved and committed to the state of israel and the relationship with the united states, he is as anxious to do what i got a chance to do when i was there last, ehud, with you as you flew me along the line. i got to go to tel aviv university and speak to several thousand young israelis. the vibrancy, the optimism, the absolute commitment is contagious, and he is looking forward to seeing it and feeling it and tasting it. the president looks forward to having conversations about their hopes and their aspirations, about their astonishing world- leading technological achievements, about the future they envision for themselves and for their country, about how different the world they face is from the one their parents faced, even if many of the threats are the same. these are really important conversations for the president to have and to hear and for them to hear. these are critically important. i get kidded again, to quote debbie as she kids me sometimes. everybody quotes democrat and republican quotes tip o neill saying, all politics is local. with all due respect, lonnie, i think that is not right. i think all politics is personal and i mean it. all politics is personal and it is building personal relationships and trust and exposure, talking to people that really matters, particularly in foreign policy, so ladies and gentlemen, let me end where i began, by reaffirming our commitment to the state of israel. it is not only a long-standing moral commitment, it is a strategic commitment. an independent israel, secure in its own borders, recognized by the world is in the practical strategic interest of the united states of america. i used to say when i lonnie s brother used to say, if there were no israel, we would have to invent one. ladies and gentlemen, we also know that it is critical to remind every generation of americans, as you are doing with your children here today, it is critical to remind our children, my children, your children that is why the first time i ever took the three of my children separately to europe, the first place i took them was dachau. we flew to munich and went to dachau. the first thing they ever did, as annette will remember because it is important that all our children and grandchildren understand that this is a never- ending requirement. the preservation of an independent jewish state is the ultimate guarantor. it is the only certain guarantor of freedom and security for the jewish people in the world. [applause] that was most poignantly pointed out to me when i was a young senator making my first trip to israel. i had the great, great honor and that is not hyperbole of getting to meet for the first time and subsequently i met her beyond that golda meir. she was the prime minister. now, i am sure every kid up there said, you cannot be that old, senator. i hope that s what you re saying, but seriously, the first trip i ever made y all know those double doors you go in the office and the blond furniture and the desk on the left side, if my memory serves me correctly and golda meir, as the prime minister and defense minister, she had those maps behind her that you know, you could pull down all those maps like you had in geography class in high school and she sat behind her desk, and i sat in the chair in front of her desk, and a young man was sitting to my right who was her assistant. his name was yitzhak rabin. [laughter] seriously, that is a true story, and she sat there chain-smoking and reading letters, reading letters to me, letters from the front in the six-day war. she read the letters about and then told me how this young man or woman had died and missed her family. and this went on for i do not know how long. i guess she could tell i was visibly moved by this and i was getting depressed about it and she suddenly looked at me and said she looked at me, she said, senator, would you like a photo opportunity? [laughter] and i looked at her, i said, well, yes, madam prime minister, and we walk out those doors, we stood there. no statements and we are standing next to one another, look at this array of media, television and photojournalists, snapping pictures. we are looking straight ahead. without looking at me, she speaks to me, she said, senator, do not look so sad. she said, we have a secret weapon. we have a secret weapon in our confrontation in this part of the world, and i thought, she s about to lean over and tell me about a system or something. you can see the picture. i still have them. i turn to look at her you know, we were supposed to be looking straight ahead and i said, madam prime minister she never turned her head, kept looking she said, our secret weapon, senator, is we have no place else to go. we have no place else to go. [applause] ladies and gentlemen, our job is to make sure there is always a place to go, that there is always an israel, that there is always a secure israel, and there is an israel that can care for itself. my father was right. you are right. it is the ultimate guarantor of never again. god bless you all, and may god protect our troops. thank you. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013] israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu addressed the annual aipac conference on monday live by satellite from israel. this is about 10 minutes. [applause] thank you. thank you very much. thank you, rosie and thank you, howard, michael, robert, all the leadership of aipac. thank you for everything you do to strengthening the alliance between great israel and the united states of america. friend, vice president biden. he just spoke there, and i have to say that i have learned over the years so much from joe. i want to thank him for his [no audio] families are about from joe biden. i learned about his father. and ours are so similar, deeply grounded in values, and i just heard those values expressed. i want to also recognize and i am sure you will all join me in recognizing the defense minister barak, who i have sent

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