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Kaitlan. all over the lot. >> so i take it you weren't impressed with the way trump's attorney argued in court today? >> underwhelmed. i felt sorry for him, actually. >> do you think that it means they're going to rule against him? >> i'm convinced they will. it would be so stunning for trump to succeed in this argument. i think it's a make weight argument where they're just trying to get delay, delay, delay, they're going to go for the full en banc hearing of the entire d.c. court of appeals. then they'll lose there. then they'll go up to the supreme court and they'll argue there. and pretty ...

That is not the case, that this is actually the legal backstop. but even if we do live in that world where it is up to the senate, would this republican senate, i mean, donald trump would -- would the republican senate that existed then, he would have never been convicted. >> he wouldn't have been. i think that's part of the reason that mitch mcconnell said what he said initially and why he's doubled down on it now. you know, ideological or argumentative consistency is not a strong point for donald trump. it is for mitch mcconnell. unfortunately, here i think he doesn't necessarily represent t...

>> yeah. that was a point that they made. and john dean, you know, looking at this, there was a lot of historical context that was brought up today including your former boss, richard nixon. obviously, you were the former white house counsel. so i wonder what you made of listening, given you know nixon's conduct as well as anyone and what was actually happening inside that administration at that time. there was this argument that that was, you know -- that this was purely private conduct. that was the -- by nixon. that was the argument that trump's attorney was making today, is why that's not ...

And i thank you. good to be back with you on this second hour of msnbc reports with jose diaz-balart. it is 1:00 eastern, 10:00 a.m. pacific. i'm in today for chris jansing. what happens today in a d.c. courthouse could be one of the most important days yet for the former president. donald trump's lawyer facing off against jack smith's special counsel team about the durability of trump's presidential immunity argument. it is now in the hands of three judges, but could this case as trump's lawyer put it open pandora's box? >> a president has to have immunity. and the other thing is i did nothin...

See and hear the judges. they seemed skeptical of trump's lawyers' arguments, especially that a president is immune unless he is impeached, found guilty by the senate. what did you make of those arguments? >> right. i think this panel very clearly did not buy the former president's immunity argument. the most difficult questions that they lobbed at government lawyers were, if we rule for you, what does the rule look like going forward? are presidents prosecutable for everything they do while they are in office? there's a detailed conversation where the government lawyer said, you don't have to...