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>> he has threate civil actions for actions taken acts and certainly within the outer perimeter. whether you agree or disagree with what he did, whether you think the information was good or bad, the immunity concept doesn't present granular which inquiry into whether he was right or wrong. he was entitled to be right or wrong about the election fraud. the second part is a person impeached or convicted can then be prosecuted to the law according to the law, so on. there's an argument to be made by implication a person acquitted by the impeachment can't be prosecuted. the justice department did a $2,000 -- the year 2000 analysis of this issue, very thorough -- >> okay, david, let me just stop this there because you call this granular. i don't think people would say it's granular. you're saying there are parts of immunity if trump's attorney is arguing that this pertained to his job, these were his official duties as president. that is not, though, the argument that his attorney was making in court the other day. there was this hypothetical that one of the judges raised of course we all know it by now that if a president ordered seal team six to kill a political opponent would they be immune from prosecution unless they were impeached and convicted? do you agree with that? >> no, i do not.

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