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in front of the secret service, that seems stupid. that is what you are expected to believe. my god. we got the affidavit. it is fascinating. it is unbelievable. look. look. all someone knows how to use a magic marker and a ruler, we have 7 sentences, let's see if we can figure out what is taking place. look at this. and the senior legal analyst of this show, right here. they move the ball and leaking, they wanted absolute secrecy, let's start with this point. if i'm wrong, and the other side is right, how is it that hillary clinton is still walking on the earth free? she should be g...

beforehand, and it was essentially a diatribe against new york state attorney general letitia james accusing her of being biased against him and conducting a politically motivated witch hunt for political gain. he acknowledged he said in the past that if you're innocent, you have no reason to take the fifth amendment. he said recent events in his life have caused him to change his tune including the recent fbi raid -- search of his compound in mar-a-lago, florida. he said it just made no sense for him to cooperate in any way with this civil fraud investigation. what's interesting abo...

volunteering information so we can understand what in the world happened down in that white house. >> so why do you think, nick, he's not? the idea he could have such access and give firsthand accounts of trump's efforts to seize the power of the doj as we heard from one hearing to corrupt it. the idea of the scheme to try to oust the acting attorney general but i suspect to the extent that cipollone is trying to carve out certain areas he doesn't have to talk about, i'm assuming privilege will be a part of this and obviously, he can bend the ear of the president. will that be enough...

>> why do you think he is not? he could have such access and give first-hand accounts of the effort to seize power of the doj to try uncorrupted in the scheme to oust the acting attorney general. i suspect to the extent that pat cipollone is trying to carve out certain areas, i assume privileges part of this. will that be enough to overcome the obligation that he is speaking about? >> not at all. there is no attorney client privilege. the white house counsel does not represent the president of the united states personally. he is not the personal lawyer. there is no personal attorney ...

that hearing will take place after the committee has videotaped the testimony of pat cipollone. cipollone, think, is the trump white house's top lawyer. he's a man who, at least as far as we know, appears to have pushed back on some of the most dangerous and brazen ideas conceived of by the ex-president and his closest allies as they worked to overturn the results of the 2020 election. cipollone also held the same job as john dean whose legendary 1973 testimony was a turningpoint in the watergate investigation. here is what january 6 investigator john wood had to say right here on ms...