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If they were male and cute, he liked to help even more. chez panisse became nationally famous because james beard said it was, of the four restaurants in america he loved, this new place called chez panisse was one of them. well, then all hell broke loose, you know? >> sharon: the restaurant changed from the berkeley people to the wine people and then to, as someone said, the white patent-shoed people. >> andrew: it got a little bit away, i think, from what the original vision of that restaurant was for alice waters and a number of the other people involved with it. and it became a little gran...

Apartment, and jeremiah was there and saying, "i'm going to go to hawaii and maybe i'm going to go cut vines in the napa valley, do something." and i said, "you know, what you're really good at is cooking. why don't you just call alice? we know she's looking for someone to work with. just go over there." >> andrew: one of the things i think is really important to think about when talking about the '70s and '80s in this country is how very disconnected, uh, what was happening in american restaurants was. a lot of the newspapers around the country did not have food sections. people were by and l...

Have had music and dancing and people eating with their hands and very -- a lot of informality. >> ken: a bunch of these berkeley students, kinda hippies, you know, it was a place for like, poetry readings. it was a coffee house, you know? there were no chefs involved early on. alice was -- her boyfriend was a film guy. and, you know, she'd been to france a couple of times. >> ruth: she had had this epiphany. she had been to france. she had eaten in all these little bistros. she had fallen in love with the food. basically, it was just, "i want to make this little restaurant for my friends." >>...

Country is how very disconnected, uh, what was happening in american restaurants was. a lot of the newspapers around the country did not have food sections. people were by and large very unaware of who the chefs were. there was no internet. there were not even fax machines at the beginning of this story. so, a lot of what happened in individual cities and individual areas was very self contained. and then, in the bay area, up in berkeley, was this little restaurant called chez panisse that opened in 1971. it had a bumpy road at the beginning, but over time, became, for a number of reasons, a v...

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