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HARDtalk

ourselves, that is what happens in ourselves, download the memories, the thoughts, the emotions, the material that makes us us. onto a computer, to digitise it, to turn ourselves into digital cells which can be kept in a metal box forever. isn't that going to be a form of immortality? well, it is... certainly something that people believe is a form of immortality and is already on offer. there are already on offer. there are already promises like this, whether as a way of managing grief, so if it is a loved one that dies, or as a route to immortality when thinking about your own prospects. but i don't think this is a route to mortality... it think this is a route to mortality. . ._ mortality... it is not a means of maintaining _ mortality... it is not a means of maintaining memories, i mortality... it is not a means of maintaining memories, it| mortality... it is not a meansl of maintaining memories, it is not like keeping photos on your phone. this can be generative. this can be the essence of you, which generates new thoughts, new conversations, which keeps you in a sense alive stop your institute works on technology in the future and humanity

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HARDtalk

are all going to come together and be collaborative, it defies what we know about human history and human nature, doesn't it? well, there's no denying it's incredibly hard. and at the moment, researchers in my institute and across the world are looking at what kind of precedents are the best to follow for al. is it something like the way we manage nuclear weapons? we manage chemical weapons? or is it more like climate change, for example? what do you think? well, i don't think the nuclear weapon analogy is a good one, because there we're talking about one very specific technology, that's very hard to build. whereas ai, it isn't one problem, it's something that's going to impact on every aspect of life, and it's something that we're all going to have access to. so we need to think of it as a very broad range of problems — ai in health care, ai in weapon systems, ai and misinformation, for example, and use different regulatory mechanisms, different ways of cooperating in order to manage those. but this conversation has been, again, a fascinating mix

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HARDtalk

but my mission, and that of the new institute we founded, is to make these transformations go well. and we only do that by thinking also about how these technologies, including this one, life extension, can go wrong and what we need to do to make them go well. you say you're broadly, and in principle, excited. you don't come across as excited. you come across as deeply concerned. you talk about the earth's carrying capacity. that, i guess, means its resource base and what it can...the number of people it can manage to keep alive on this planet. you talk about the carrying capacity being overburdened, and you say that a longevity of 120 to 160 years for the average human would make life pretty much impossible. well, i am very concerned. i think everyone ought to be concerned about the drain on the planet's resources that we're exerting with 8 billion people. and we need to be tackling that. and my worry is when people say,

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The Context

of shipping containers? have a listen. marco forgione is the director—general of the institute of export and international trade. we are in a time when the container rates are frankly going through the roof. we are going to see, definitely, price pressure, we are going to see the possibility of shrinkflation, and also availability problems. and we are going to start to see those in the next week or so because the delays have been in place for about a month now, so stocks will be running low. and that cost is already being passed on to consumers. rachael waring is the managing director of an independent furniture company, warings furniture. she explained to radio it how her buiness was being affected. it is really problematic, not just for us but for our client. it just knocks out all of the profit from the job, to be perfectly honest. at the moment, the pricing, we have had a live price today for a container and it has now shot up already to about $4500. when we are now confirming prices for the end of this year and the beginning of the following year, we are going to have to bake

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Breakfast

..just a symbol of democracy. and a distinctive symbol too. i get the impression uzbekistan is involved in a tug—of—war between becoming more open and progressive and respecting its past. i'm travelling an hour outside of the city to see that past in its full glory. this is parkent, known locally as quyosh, which means "the sun" in uzbek, and there's good reason for that. and there it is now. in the middle of nowhere, on a mountain — like, nothing else around it — and it's like something from a '60s spy movie or something. it's incredible. the institute of the sun is a soviet legacy. i can't believe i'm actually allowed in here. it was once home to a top—secret project,

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Breakfast

the institute has lost some of its former glory. hard to imagine, but in its heyday, there'd have been more than a thousand of the soviet union's top minds working here. today, there's less than 200 people. but they're still making scientific advances with this space race era technology. the furnace's focal point is located on top of a tower, and i'm granted special access to see one of the experiments being worked on today. they don't fire up the furnace every day, so i'm lucky to see this. these scientists are testing to see if the material can be used to create a new heat conductor. be careful. yeah. what's totally incredible is that literallyjust a metre away from me, is this saucepan size

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The Travel Show

of nuclear power explosion, testing of protecting material of space shuttles. it works by turning 62 mirrored panels to bounce the sun onto 10,000 tiny mirrors onto the dish—shaped building. they then focus the sun's rays onto a small furnace known as the concentrator. and you can even see for yourself just how powerful the sun can be when reflected off mirrors. yeah? 0k. so you hold it... oh, look at that! immediately! within two or three seconds, this stick gets to 1,000 degrees celsius. absolutely love it. the institute has lost some of its former glory.

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The Travel Show

i get the impression uzbekistan is involved in a tug—of—war between becoming more open and progressive and respecting its past. i'm travelling an hour outside of the city to see that past in its full glory. this is parkent, known locally as quyosh, which means "the sun" in uzbek, and there's good reason for that. and there it is now. in the middle of nowhere, on a mountain — like, nothing else around it — and it's like something from a �*60s spy movie or something. it's incredible. the institute of the sun is a soviet legacy. i can't believe i'm actually allowed in here. it was once home to a top—secret project, testing the capabilities of military equipment to withstand extreme heats.

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Breakfast

testing the capabilities of military equipment to withstand extreme heats. whoa! what an incredible view! dr shavkat nurmatov is one of the people in charge. so tell me, originally, why was this whole institute created? it was a time of race between capitalistic system and soviet system. the furnace was built to rival its french equivalent, the only other of its kind in the world. first, the main idea was about achieving high temperatures in the focal spot by cheap and fast way, and 3,000 degrees c required to test some facilities.

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The Travel Show

whoa! what an incredible view! dr shavkat nurmatov is one of the people in charge. so tell me, originally, why was this whole institute created? it was a time of race between capitalistic system and soviet system. the furnace was built to rival its french equivalent, the only other of its kind in the world. first, the main idea was about achieving high temperatures in the focal spot by cheap and fast way, and 3,000 degrees c required to test some facilities. at that time, it was military tests, the focal spot... to see how military equipment can deal with extreme temperature, yes? yes, yes. for example, a simulation

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