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President Joe Biden told top U.S. intelligence and defense officials that leaks about U.S. intelligence sharing with Ukraine need to stop, according to recent reports.
Can we make russia a pariah state? part of that is labeling them as a state sponsor of terrorism. which they clearly aren't, not just devastating attacks in ukraine, in their infrastructure, but murdering his opponents both in russia and abroad. so, it's a move we ought to make. >> ambassador, let's say we do that. let's say we give them that label. what does it mean? what happens? >> well, it makes them a pry state. it makes it hard for anyone to financially transact with them. it makes companies think twice about investing again. there once you get on that list, it's really hard to get off t...
Decisions of the ukrainian military. ukraine combines information that, another partners provide with the intelligence that they themselves are gathering on the battlefield. and then they make their own decisions, and they take their own actions. >> and so, all of this raises a very important question if the u.s. is providing realtime intelligence that is actually leading to the killing of russians and their generals, as well as the sinking of their flagship military vessel, what sort of implications does this intelligence sharing have on our rule in this war and russia's possible response? el...
Provided intelligence that helped ukraine strike the ship with cruise missiles. does that level of intelligence sharing surprise you at all? >> it doesn't. it doesn't. intelligence sharing is maybe not as important as these heavy weapons. but it's certainly on the same order of importance. the real time intelligence that allows the ukrainians to combine the information with other sources -- they've got a lot of very good sources, anderson. they have -- they have ways. of course the language is helpful. they have ways that we don't of understanding and getting information about what's going on ...
U.s. officials said they didn't know what ukraine was going to then launch, the missile strikes on the ship, and the u.s. didn't play a role in that specifically. there's a little bit of trying to distance themselves from that, though we know they provided the intelligence. the result of this was one of the most humiliating moments for the russians in the ukrainian conflict. also a big morale boost for the ukrainian forces. i think, to your question about why people are talking about this now, is there is -- for reporters, we want people to tell us things that maybe other people don't want out...