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doing it in the dead of night. bret: that is it for the report. fair, balanced, and unafraid. tucker is next. tucker: we have the fox news alert, a gunman is shot and leaving others shot. we begin our show with a fox national correspondent he was live on the scene in florida. we receive on lockdown from the broward county sheriff s department. going through grudges, checking every single vehicle as well as every square inch of the property that includes all four terminals as well as the tarmac s. there helicopters with spotlights tonight fighting over the runway is making sure there is nothing suspicious out there.
passengers. the deck below me here at terminal 2 is where the baggage claim area is and around 1:00, that is when about 4 minutes of carnage were released when witnesses say they named it shooter suspect in this case, esteban santiago, and to baggage claim, got his luggage, and then went into the bathroom, took his gun out of the luggage out of the lockbox, which he had packed and checked in anchorage, alaska, to fly via minneapolis to fort lauderdale, they loaded the gun, and went out into the baggage claim area and started shooting people. 13 people shot, blood everywhere, five people dead, and eight people wounded and currently being treated at broward county hospitals. then it seemed like the airport was kind of starting to settle down, but then, 45 minutes later was absolute panic and terror again as there were reports of shots in the garage, fought the mecca s.w.a.t. teams running in
with heavily armed. across the runways with their luggage, running as far away from airport property as possible because there were other reports that others heard gunshots and terminal 1. the sheriff says none of that was actually gunfire. there is only one shooting instance today and that was the 1:00 according to witnesses which lasted about 4 minutes, 13 people were shot, eight wounded, five brutally murdered, and of e law enforcement that responded fired no weapons. they order the government onto the ground, he surrendered, was handcuffed, and insulin custody since shortly after 1:00. at the latest on his personal background, his brother and mother to the new york daily news, he is being treated for mental health recently. law enforcement sources are telling fox news that in november of last year, so two months ago, he went into the anchorage, alaska fbi field office saying that u.s.
intelligence was planting devices in his brain. it may check to mel, put him on their list, said they found no connection to terror. it was an absolute terrorizing two hours for these hundreds of thousands of travelers here today. tucker? tucker: thank you so much. what a sad story. we are joined by fox news national security correspondent who has more on the gunmen tonight. jennifer? i just got off the phone with law enforcement sources here in washington who tell me that the gunmen flied demonic flu first class. not only by the fbi, but also the army cid, that s the criminal investigative division. we know that he served and alaska and in alaska narration demonic national guard in august of 2016 pure 2016 fod
serve one tour in iraq, that was from 2010-2011, february 2011. i would know that that was not a very active time in iraq. that was just before they pulled out at the end of that year. he was a combat engineer, he was separated from the national guard from the alaska national guard for performance we are told by the spokesman out in alaska. he joined the national guard, the puerto rican national guard and 2007 and that is when he deployed to iraq. his family says, has told reporters, he did suffer some mental problems after returning from iraq and what we do know and met dean our producer asked the justice department has talked to law enforcement sources who have confirmed that in november, he did go into an fbi field office in anchorage, not far from where he was livin living, and he did say that he
was having, he believed the u.s. intelligent had infiltrated his mind trying to convince them to join isis and forcing him to watch isis videos as bill keating just reported. that s when fbi turned him over to law enforcement and law enforcement had him taken to be mentally checked out at a hospital and at that point, the fbi and department of homeland security opened and enter agency review, they looked into his background, they began talking to his family members, but they did not find any connection to foreign terrors overseas at that time. back to you tucker. tucker: jennifer, things a lot for that. congress confirmed president trump s by accepting his electoral votes. at that did not stop a group of democrats in congress from setting up a taxpayer
the protecting our democracy act will give a full 18 months to look into the matter. congressman, thank you so much for coming on. thank you for having me back. tucker: we talked to you last month and you made it case for this commission and your point was look, there s a lot we don t know. there is a lot we do know with the delivery of this report. why do we need your commission? the public report that the white house put out made clearer than ever that russia attacked our democracy. it was ordered by vladimir putin and they intend, and other countries likely, want to attack again. we joined this effort to say let s find an infant dependent way to find out why this happened, why are we so vulnerable, and let s make sure we don t let this happen again. tucker: the report said that the russians planned to harm hillary clinton.
and the russians were gathering information to use against her should she win. i assume use except that findin finding, shouldn t we find how they penetrated her server, which seems to be the least protected piece of electronic in the united states, that was not mentioned in the report. i haven t heard any democrats mention that, if you get this panel, should she be subpoenaed on that question? is a bipartisan effort. republicans and democrats want to get the bottom of the truth. this is about making sure our elections belong to us. the committee should have a wide scope and looking at what russia did to try and undermined our election. i m not going to prejudge the results. tucker: two points. you say replicants have signed on to this? i continue to reach out to republicans. the commission would be a bipartisan appointed. it would be republican and
democrat appointed. i still believe that republicans accept that we were hacked. john mccain held a hearing yesterday accepting that. i would like to take this out of congress, have members fully devote themselves to finding out once and for what happened because after all, the president-elect doesn t even accept that russia attacked our elections. this gun can i you there? there s something very disingenuous about you continuing to say you want to take this out of the political world. with a russian friendly president taking office january, it s important to make we are strong. that is suggesting that he is pro-russian. obama was president. you are very busy. if you tucker: it s not honest of
you to say they re not partisan. it s apparent in what you say. it s apparent and what donald trump says that he admires vladimir putin. tucker: what does that have to do with any of this? sure, he says nice things about put in. i m not here to defend it. i don t like putin personally. what is i have to with the penetration of john podesta s server? do you think that trumpet was somehow involved in that question mike what is russia have to do with this story? we are less safe as a country because we have a president-elect to visit if you have something ticking out of congress and have experts look at that, hopefully once and for all, we can sign off on what happened and move on. tucker: you said the purposes of this was to restore faith and our electoral system and americans are nervous about
what s on the level and you want to reassure them that it is. if that s true, why have you suggested that our voting machines were hacked, and you said it right here on december 7th, you said hacking included scanning in arizona, illinois, and florida . do you know that they had any effect on our voting? tucker, he should be the part that came out today. no tallies were changed. three election systems were hacked. that should concern us, but they intended to go into election systems. i don t want to relitigate their it is a gmac results in order for us to be a safer country and secure our democracy, we need to know what happened and assure people in a bipartisan way that it will not happen again. tucker: you can see that barack obama was president when this happened, right? it was president obama who
tucker: soon it going sort or maybe they got that from the russian spy masters who are controlling them if they got that from russia, they should disavow them now. tucker: it fair enough. it congressman, good to see you. you too, thank you tucker. tucker: donald trump was given a 90 minute intelligence briefing today. they were saying the country had no effect on this countries outcome . we are joined by our expert on that, katherine harris. okay, so it s my five pages, is unclassified and i don t think i ve ever read a document that s more strongly worded and very definite about its findings. the findings are this was ordered by vladimir putin, the goal is to damage hillary clinton, it was to reduce the likelihood she would be elected and over time, they developed a preference for
donald trump. they also say that their job is not to measure the impact on public opinion. that s something they can t measure. certainly the propaganda was a campaign on a level they had a not seen before. you really have to take a document at face value and you have to take a lot of faith in the underlying data. if you re looking at this for a review of evidence, there is no evidence here because of exposing sources and exposing methods. tucker: it isn t usual for a document like this to make claims this concrete about a leaders motives? this is a great question because i was really taken aback by his high confidence on so many other of the conclusions. high confidence is likening an a or an a- on on high school paper. it means there are high quality intelligence and multiple data points if they put together. i ve never really seen a
this fake news operation had exposed 200 people to russian propaganda, a huge story that went everywhere. as it turned out, it was based on a list compiled by a secret group, a new group, that was accomplished only by putting huge sites, mainstream sites and various clinton critical sites on the left, labeling russian propaganda outlets. that story clapped after two weeks. there s a huge editor s note at the top of the story. the editor announced or nonstad it on twitter. twitter. when the story collapsed and had to discount their own source, he said nothing, the paper said nothing. the story went everywhere, the retraction was heard by a tiny fraction of the people. we see this over and over throughout the last year when it comes to russian reports. tucker: interesting. we ve also seen anybody who raises questions about it denounced as a tool of the kremlin. just be clear for our viewers, i
these are really furious charges, we should see evidence of that. tucker: exactly. that s my perspective precisely. thanks a lot for joining us. great to be with you, talker. it s the oncoming outcome of the republican party is hoping to repeal obamacare as it soon as president trump is sworn in. that s what they told you, but it might not happen thanks in part to senator rand paul who is also an opponent of obamacare. he joins us and asked to expend what exactly is going on. a high intensity tens device that uses technology once only in doctors offices. for deep penetrating relief at the source. aleve direct therapy.
no one is offended by obamacare more than myself. i ve seen it up close, i ve seen it firsthand, i ll do anything to get rid of it. however, i don t want to have to vote for a budget that never balances and a budget that adds $9.7 trillion in debt in order to get to it. what i told my colleagues is, why don t we introduce a good budget? when the balances and then repeal obamacare? the rules and congress are you can t repeal it until you pass a budget. but what is and be a bad budget? we are not getting any democrats to vote for the budget. this is in a compromise with democrats. were going to vote for a budget. this is a republican product, why should it not be a vision of conservative budget, a fiscal conservatism russian mark why is it a budget that adds so much debt? tucker: that s a good question. you also said it could eventually lead for a tax to insurance companies. you wrote that. i understand that reasoning too.
republicans promised that if there ever to achieve power, both chambers and to the presidency, to repeal obamacare right away. why haven t they thought this through? [laughs] good point. we should vote for replacement on the same day as a repeal. we should expand health savings accounts so people can save to buy insurance. we should let them buy anything. we should let them pay for their insurance premiums and their health savings account, we should be able to pay for a diet plan, you should be able to pay for a an exercise plan, you scribble to pay for vitamins. you should be able to pay for a vast variety. tucker: why haven t they come up with an alternative? the speaker of the house said we are going to have her placement pen within a year yesterday. really? we ve been waiting for six years. do not have a replacement plan in order? why haven t they done that? i don t know. i m putting forth a plan.
i m putting a replacement plan together and it will be next week. i will replace replacement plan. it will be expanding hsa s, going across state lines, buying any kind of insurance and insurance companies want to sell, and will also involve something very important with sludge be expanding corporations you should be allowed to associate. if we do those things, the cost of insurance comes down, and get rid of the pre-existing spewing republicans haven t told the entire congress for a while. you just got elected to her second term, you re hardly the most senior guy in the senate. why haven t they agreed on a replacement plan until now? here s the thing. there are 50 plate replacement bills out there. i met with congress when tom price who s been appointed to the cabinet, i m supportive of him, i m supportive of many of
his ideas. many of the ideas which are in bill form are his. you have all these bills, put together a replacement bill and vote on the monday one, but if you don t, the secondly repeal it, we re going to be rude blamed for all the unraveling of obamacare. and mark my words, it s going to unravel and unravel even quicker and we are going to be blamed for the bankruptcy of the insurance companies that may come as a result. skin on my obvious question is, don t you think promises like this made by republican candidates seeking office that they knew they could never really make good on as part of the reason republicans voted for trump in the first place? we didn t believe any republicans who were already in office. we could repeal obamacare and we could vote for replacement the same day. next week i will reap release . i can guarantee it will be
accepted, i m telling everybody in my caucus and i m trying to tell everybody, we need to have replacement the same day we repeal obamacare. tucker: good luck. senator rand paul, good to see you. thank you. thank you. tucker: up next, temperatures are deftly rising on campus. a meteorologist says she s quitting her job because you can t take the pc atmosphere anymore. she joins us next. nutrition made with only 9 ingredients, plus 25 vitamins and minerals and 10 grams of protein. and look where life can take you! boost®. be up for it.™
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tucker: and climate scientists at georgia tech is quitting because she can t take it anymore. she doesn t deny the climate is changing, but she says the university has come so politicized on the topic, she can no longer handle what she calls the craziness of it all. thank you for coming on tonight. it s a pleasure. tucker: is a pleasure for me. you ve said that research money only goes to researchers pursuing only use lines of inquiry and they re all the same and that prevents good science from happening. my understanding correctly? not really, but what you re seeing is this dominant theme of human cause climate change which is where all of the research and focuses being directed and it s
going to understanding. gun is not the key debate, not whether temperatures are changing, because they have, but why. it s been warming for several hundred years. the question is how much of the recent warming say for the last 50 years is caused by humans. my interpretation of the evidence is that we really can t tell and i don t see a clearer signal that is caused by humans predominantly. tucker: for your position, you said we really can t tell. you re sort of open-minded it sounds like. if you believe you are penalized for that view? i ve been vilified by some of my colleagues who are activists
and don t like anybody challenging their big story. i walk around with knives sticking out of my back. in the university environment if alec is beating my head against the wall and not being effective tucker: people disagree and have strong ideologies. that s the opposite of what i understood science to be is that you are led by inquiry and evidence to conclusions. university should be places of research, freedom of investigation, honest and open debate, diverse perspectives et cetera. in certain fields that are politically relevant, you re definitely not seeing that. tucker: this is one that has relevance for all of us.
the research you re doing, or your colleagues as activists are doing, will affect everyone on the planet. this takes really high, no? the stakes are really high. i think i could have more of an impact outside of the universit university. in the private sector, sort of free market, academic freedom. tucker: it let me ask you this, when you hear people that ask the question that you just asked, to what extent is climate change being driven by human activity? people who ask that are derided as climate deniers. what is your response to that? my response is that really don t know. humans are contributing something, we don t know how much. from the evidence that i ve seen, i don t think that it s the dominant cause.
tucker: your not listing tv. because 90% of science is globalists really believe one thing. you must be in the 2%, right? ironically, the way the question is framed by the consensus is that yes, it s warming, yes, humans contribute to it. everyone agrees with that, i m in the 90%. it s when you get down to the details that there is genuine disagreements that is really glossed over in the media. tucker: we need to do them multiview show on this. i hope you ll come back for that. thank you for joining us. thank you. tucker: straightahead, will donald trump s affection for political rivals provide the chill and their relations? that is a head next.
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tucker: here s a something new. a local news report about amazon s spend happy voice assistant, alexa, has sparked a bigger shopping spree. alexa confused a 6-year-olds chatter for an actual order. one san diego news station said that their echo devices tried it to order dollhouses. apparently they really were listening to television. the new world has no choice but to obey alexa if she wants you to buy products on amazon. time now for the friend zone. we have one of our friends from fox here on the show. tonight we are joined by someone we literally could not like
more, janice dean, cohost of fox and friends. fox and friends, who wrote that? tucker: we just upgraded you. i have a couple questions for you, i have to start with the weather. what is going on? that s what everybody is talking about. we have cold temperatures that has sunk as far south as the gulf coast. we have a raging snowstorm that is happening across the south. we re talking about minus 20 s, minus 30s, single digits, teens across the south. the stage is set paired we ve got cold air in place and a storm system coming out of the gulf, tucker, that is bringing snow and ice to areas that don t typically see wintry weather. people are freaked out, rightfully so, a couple of years in atlanta, georgia, we have people on the highways for days that couldn t move. they have taken precautions there. they know they have a big storm on the way.
the west, on the way, also getting pounded by rain and snow in the next couple of days. really the most they ve seen in years it could put a dent in the drought. a good thing, but too much of a good thing could bring flash flooding. this is a big deal it s happening across the south as we speak. ice and snow and areas like louisiana, mississippi, the carolinas. in some cases, tucker, we could see more of the snow and the carolinas that we have seen in new york city all season. this is a big deal and people are taken precautions. the good thing is it s happening on a weekend. it s happening when people don t have to go to work, they have told go anywhere with their kids. tucker: at one of those years where anything can happen. we sent our until our reporters return with their forensic background report they did on you, i didn t know that you were a comedian professionally at one point.
noel, noel, noel. i was never a comedian. they have these things in new york city. you have thetape? is it the comic strip here and new york city, i won first prize, tucker can you believe i it? tucker: you re such a modest person. how did you prepare for this? how did you go from being on tv to being a winner of a stand-up comedy competition? i have always loved comedians and what they do i just wanted to give it a shot. i just want to make people laugh. on fox & friends, loved to make the audience laugh as well. this is a big challenge. i will say it s one of the most rewarding things i have done, because i was so nervous about this and to stand up there and just be raw and just try to make you laugh, i will say, it really was the most challenging thing. what i did, was i took my experience.
i talked what i do with the weather person. when i was pregnant, i got an email that said janice dean when you having that baby because you re blocking mississippi and i need to see my hometown! i had some fun with coworkers as well. i think you have a clip of that. tucker: here we go. i ve been doing this for a long time, been doing this for ten years. speaking of being on television, the hair and makeup and things, it takes a lot. it takes a village. you ve got to get the hair tease, the hair color, the highlights, the spray tan, the botox, the makeup, the jewelry, and that s just eric bolling. [laughter] tucker: i ve seen him and end out of makeup. it s a tossup between geraldo
and eric bolling. please know i kid because i lov love. it was a challenging thing and it to make people laugh, i understand the rush performers get, comedians get. working with comedians, they ll say one night you have a great routine and the next night you do the same routine and you won t get any laughs. hats off to people who do that. i don t think i ll be doing it again, but i m glad i have the trophy in my office. tucker: i wish i d been there. janice dean, peeling back layers of the onion. it gets sweeter as you get closer to the core. by the way, congratulations to 9:00. i m so proud of you. tucker: i hope you re up late enough to be on. all right, i m next, we got an update on the fort lauderdale airport shooting. we value information on that, details coming up. stay tuned quit smoking.
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travelers. the airport when i m locked down around 2:00 p.m., after a second shooting which ended up not to be related. or was not an additional shooting. the fort lauderdale hollywood airport. disunited jet behind me, just pulled up, this is one of several large bodied aircraft that had landed here at the airport when suddenly, it was put on security lockdown. they could not get to a jetway. nobody was allowed to leave the airport property, nobody was allowed to gain access to the airport property, this was all around 2:00 in the afternoon, so presumably, there are a lot of people on that plane club and stuck out on the tarmac for the past six hours because they couldn t get to a jetway to
debark the plane. here comes another one of these planes full of passengers. you know their miserable. at the people inside the terminals are now finally being allowed to leave the airport now that for the most part, the airport has been checked square inch after square inch for any further threat that did not materialize. hundreds and hundreds of people are now leaving terminals one, three, and four. if you have a car in the garage is, you re allowed to go get your car and drive off the property. a lot of the people are returning from cruises, the plane got canceled, they re not being allowed to leave the airport, they re sending people to the port of everglades or you can on cruise ships. they can at least get some food and figure out where they re going to stay for tonight and rebook their travel plans and return home. absolutely a miserable day, but not nearly as horrible as the
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who sent us on twitter. she wants to know more about the wall. president obama s wall. here s the story. after president obama vacates the white house and about two weeks, he ll be moving to an upscale neighborhood. the neighborhood of the people, very rich people. what are they doing to prepare for his family s arrival there? they re building a wall, of course. they re constructing a wall to help keep out unwanted people, poor people, off the property. they may confine the human spirit, but he wants one around his house. monday, our segment news abuse is back. send your evidence @tuckercarlson, or email us tuckercarlsontonight@foxnews.com . that s it for us tonight. our last show at 7:00. next week we are at 9:00, the show that his sworn enemy of

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lewis was all talk and no action, news came out that he plans to spend martin luther king day tomorrow visiting the new smithsonian museum focused on african-american history and culture. john lewis is the one who introduced the bill to get that museum built in 1988. eugene, you touch on this. i want to push forward on it as well. facts do matter. trump called lewis district crime i hridden which does incl major part of the city of atlanta. no one is defining there is crime in the city. to try to define an entire city in 140 characters of less is a massive overgeneralization. what will happen when he is in office saying these type of things? well, if he continues this,
he can expect to be criticized increasingly but more than that, people really would like to see what his solutions to the problems he arises are. he had a meeting with talk show host, steve harvey, and his hud secretary nominee friday saying they would focus on some of the challenges in inner cities such as housing. if you recall during the campaign, he put out a new deal for black america that he said would focus on high-paying jobs, improving schools and safer communities. all eyes will be on the president-elect to see if he is all talk and no action at this point. eugene, also, i want to talk about this. this started after lewis said he didn t believe that trump was a legitimate president. still, the topic of legitimacy. it came up during barack obama s presidency. my colleague, poppy harlow, touched on that speaking with conservative commentator. let s listen to this. i also think it is
unprecedented that a congressman with a stature was able to come out and say i don t believe donald trump is a legitimate president. i cannot imagine the fallout and backfire you would have if a republican would have implied that about barack obama, bill clinton, or jfk for that matter? that is what many presidents did, including the president-elect, questioning the legitimacy of the first black president. ben ferguson making the point and poppy harlow back-checking making the counter point there. legitimacy has come up before. it has and very fraucoften f donald trump, our current president. we saw barack obama prove his birth certificate proving he was born in the united states, a very legitimate candidate for a
looking for a leader that will be more bipartisan in his approach to dealing with the issues that affect the united states. to many critics, it doesn t appear that donald trump is that president but the fact is, as you mentioned, there is a lot of time left and there are people hoping to see significant change from him. many people that plan to attend saying they plan to keep an open mind to give this new president-elect a chance once he takes the oath of office. eugene scott, live in washington, d.c. eugene, thank you for your time. also, on the international stage, china is responding sharply to donald trump s suggestions that he might change the one china policy once in the white house. that is a long standing policy that means the united states recognizes relations with china and not with taiwan, which beijing considers to be a breakaway province. a spokesperson for china s foreign ministry said, quote, there is only one china in the world. taiwan is an inseparable part of
chinese territory and the people s republic of china is the sole legitimate government regarding china. these are facts recognized by the international community and no one can change this. with regards to the president-elect s feelings thinking about russia, he says he is open to that nation seeing how it can have sanctions lifted, u.s. sanctions. he has indicated he is open about getting rid of those sanctions and he would be fine with meeting with the russian president, vladmir putin, after taking office. matthew chance is following the story live in moscow. the simple fact that president-elect trump is willing to meet with the russian president, how is that being perceived there in russia? they haven t made an official comment on that prospect except to say any meeting between president putin of russia and
donald trump when he becomes president of the united states will be carefully arranged. in terms of the specifics, that s not been made public here in russia as, indeed, it hasn t been made public in the united states either, the subject of press speculation at the moment. clearly, the russians very much want to see this one-on-one meeting between the russian president and the president of the united states would be flattering to the kremlin, because it would portray them as being on an equal footing with the united states. that s been one of have the big objectives for the kremlin to be seen and treated as a player on the international stage and to have a seat at the top table. it is something that is speculated motivates vladmir putin very much. i think they would be very receptive to the idea of a sort of summit between the cold war style summit between these two leaders sgchlt will there a leaders. there are mixed messages.
you hear the president-elect indicating that he would be open to lifting sanctions and open to meeting with vladmir putin at the same time. legislators have a different position. they say the united states should continue a tough stance with russia. in fact, it could potentially get tougher. how is that being viewed with everyday russians to try to square the circle with these mixed messages? if you are talking in terms of everyday russians, i think they believe it would be the president of the united states who would make the final decision? everybody is aware the significant opposition in the u.s. congress to closer relations with russia, i think that is characterized in the russian public as being the vestiging of cold war thinking in the united states p russians believe it is the guy at the top that makes the final decision. when it comes to the issue of sanctions, they are probably right. the vast bulk of the sanctions against russia were implemented
by president obama as a presidential decree. it can be lifted just as easily with the simple stroke of a pen when donald trump becomes president of the united states. those sanctions that were imposed predominantly over the annex sayings of crimea m. matthew chance reporting for us in moscow. thank you for the reporting sgchlreporting. despite uncertainty about trump s policies towards nato, the alliance is push ago head with its show of resolve against russia. it is all prt art of nato s buip to convince moscow they will defend against the election. ru rush has brings ld againagainst
reporter: the star spangled banner play ns poland welcome the u.s. troops for nato s operation atlantic resolve. this is the official welcoming ceremony for those u.s. troops. poland s prime minister is here. she made a point to say this is an integral part of poland s national security. that everyone had a right to feel safe and secure. this is what the arrival of u.s. troops here has done. poland s prime minister spoke to cnn after the ceremony. she said this is very important for poland and the region. we live in europe where there are many external threats. russia s policy is confrontational. this constitutes a real threat. we are conscious that poland must strengthen its alliances. it is an impressive rollout. four battalions of 1,000 soldiers each, more than 2000 pieces of military hardware
including u.s. tanks and armored vehicles coming from the third armored brigade team out of ft. carson, colorado, here for nine months, deployed in poland, romania, hungary and bulgaria. a show of force to deter russia. there is no more powerful combat corporal ma combat formation in the united states army. this is another sign of the united states commitment to deterrence and our commitment to not only our polish allies but those allies in nato. u.s. tanks in poland, the kremlin says, are, quote, a real threat to russian security. still, in less than a week, moscow will have a new administration to face in washington and make its case for policy changes. russia may not be happy with this deployment but polish public opinion, that s another
matter. this is just some of the armored vehicles and tanks that have been brought over for this operation. they have been put on display for the day here in poland to show the public some of the hardware that is coming across. it s all part of this effort to show that the nato alliance remains strong. that poland will be collectively defended. atika shubert, cnn, poland. still ahead, the first major foreign policy test for donald trump once he is in office. coming up, his ad hin administration invited to the next round table of the syrian peace talks. plus, france is hosting a peace conference on the israeli palestinian conflict. why that meeting is so controversial. live around the world, you are watching cnn newsroom.
kazakhstan held three days after the donald trump is set to become the next president of the united states. let s bring in mohammed lia live in abu dhabi. what does it mean for the u.s. to be invited to the table for these talks? well, george, if the united states accept that is invitation, what it means they will have a seat at the table for the first time in months, if not years. this is going to be donald trump s first and major policy question mark. this is an issue with syria that many people would say was president obama s biggest failure that he oversaw the rise of iraq and syria and allowed al qaeda to take route in iraq and syria. the united states might have a role in trying to curtail some of that as well as help determine the future of bashar al assad. it is certainly a very big challenge and a big question
mark of the obama administration trump is going to have to deal with three days after being inaugurated. of course, the other thing to mention, george, is that when the u.s. is invited to these peace talks, you have to remember these peace talks have been led by turkey and russia for several weeks, if not months now. so there was a point in time where american foreign policy in the region dictated that america would be able to lead these negotiations. in this case, it seems as though russia and turkey have advanced quite far in what they are hoping to achieve in syria. if trump does take that offer and decides to have the united states at that negotiating table, will it be in the position of simply an observer or will they have a meaningful role? that s something we won t know until those talks take place. an observer or meaningful role. this is being led by turkey, russia. the u.s. just invited to the talks. it was not invited when it came to brokering the actual peace
deal. the question goes further. would the u.s. be at any sort of a disadvantage in even taking part in these talks? well, there is no question. you have to remember the major players are turkey, iran, and russia. they all have their own interests in syria. they all want to see some sort of settlements that gives each of those country what is they want. the big test for the united states moving forward in these peace talks is we ll have to see if the united states under the new trump administration is willing to play a bigger role in syria or whether they are planning to be more hands-off and essentially let turkey and russia dictate the terms of the see fire? the reason that is important, it will indicate something of president-elect donald trump s foreign policy. he is planning to fulfill his promise in terms of being more hands off and targeting only esis and leaving the other problems in the middle east of the country toss deal with themselves or will he be more interventionist and take a more
active role than president obama did. so far, the indications are that given the closeness of donald trump and the warming up certainly of donald trump and russia, the question is, will the united states try to intervene and limit russia s gains in syria, so to speak, as a result of these syrian peace talks. if donald trump s words and statements are any indication, it may be the case where he may step back and let russia play the main role in this which would effectively give russia even more control in syria in a cease-fire and peace deal would be assigned. whether they attend or the u.s. decides not to attend, it will be a very important statement for the trump s administration or the u.s. stance in the world thank you so much for your reporting. to another peace effort that is underway. this one happening right now in paris. some 70 countries are meeting to pressure israeli and palestinian
leaders to commit to a two-state solution. the racilies and palestinians they will not be attending that conference. the u.s. is represented but not by the incoming administration of donald trump. cnn s warren lieberman joins us live in jerusalem. the trump administration will not be there. israelis and palestinians will not be there. what, if anything, can truly come from this meeting. many other countries get together and talk about different ways to solve different solutions and deal with the most complex issues in the conflict. jerusalem borders refugees. this isn t the u.n. or the eu. many of those member countries are ripped. this is a conference on how to advance the peace process in some way. whatever comes out of this, it doesn t seem like it will have any practical, immediate effect. what worries the israelis is
what comes out could be brought to the u.n. security council for a follow-up resolution. that is the concern the israelis are looking at right now, not the conference itself but how it plugs into the bigger issue of what s happened the last few weeks, the u.n. security resolution, the kerry speech and now this. warren, the meeting will be underway. some 70 countries will be there. will it put pressure on the israelis and palestinians to reach a solution? that certainly is the intent to get the sides back to the negotiating table as much as the statements have been made back and forth and the finger pointing. the truth is there hasn t been a negotiation since april of 2014. the pressure has no consequence. if one or both sides ignore what comes out of the conference, there is no cons fence equence ignoring it.
my suspicion it will be very little. we will see statements from both sides. the israelis and palestinians aren t invited. this is supposed to be the rest of the world figuring out how to deal with the conflict and both sides wrere invited to a follow-on hand shake or symbolic sfoert of pea support of peace statement. we ll see what recommendations come out of this. it could be economic incentives to get back to negotiations. we ll see. the conference is supposed to last today. we will have statements afterwards to see what they came up with and see if there is a new idea of how to move forward. ice will be watching. palestinians and israelis will not be there. neither will the incoming trump administration. warren lieberman live in jerusalem. still ahead, not just donald trump s opponents who disagree with his policies.
how the u.s. president-elect might face opposition in his own cabinet. broadcasting in the united states and around the world. you are watching cnn newsroom.
happy about donald trump s suggestion that the united states could change its position on the one china policy once he is in the white house. a ministry spokesperson called the policy non-negotiable. also, donald trump firing back at john lewis after he said trump was not a legitimate president. trump responded by saying that the civil rights icon is all talk and no action. lewis is one of several that says he will boycott trump s inauguration come january 20th. john lewis is not the only one in washington not seeing eye to eye with donald trump. still some of trump s own cabinet picks seem to disagree with him on key issues. donald trump is facing a new round of opposition on capitol
hill. not in democrats but his own cabinet nominees. at one confirmation hearing after another, trump s team is contradicting the president-elect on some of his key campaign trail promises. on russia, trump taking a far softer tone on vladmir putin than his pick for defense secretary, retired general james mattis did. if putin elects donald trump, i consider that an asset, not a liability. i have modest expectations about areas of cooperation with mr. putin. on the intelligence probe into russian hack, can trump sounded less concerned than mike pompeo. it is pretty clear about what took place here, about russian involvement in efforts to hack information and to have an impact on american democracy. i am very clear-eyed about what that intelligence report says. at trump tower friday, the
president-elect down played the differences between his views and those of his perspective cabinet. i told them, be yourselves and say what you want to say. don t worry about me. i m going to do the right thing, whatever it is. i may be right. they may be right but i said, be yourselves. his rhetoric before the election and since is now colliding with governing. sending mixed signals to americans and allies about where the new trump administration stands. on the campaign trail, trump railed against nato while his defense secretary took a different view sxwrchlt th. nato is obsolete. it is over 60 years old. having served once as a nato sue pre supreme allied commander is the most successful military alliance in modern history. they spent time asking if they agreed on hot button issues
like torture? congress is taking an action now. it makes it absolutely improper and illegal to use waterboarding or any other form of torture. on one of his biggest pledges of all, building a wall on the border with mexico. we are going to build a great border wall. his pick to lead the department of homeland security, retired general john kelly disagreed. it has to be a layered defense. secretary of state no, ma minee tillerson conflicted the view on climate change saying he believes it exists and require a global response. donald trump says he wants members of the cabinet to have their own views but whose views, the cabinet or the president, become the policy of the new
administration. jeff zeleny cnn, washington donald trump says mexico will ultimately pay for a border wall with the united states. mexico says, that s not going to happen whachlt peop happen. what people are saying in mexico city. learn as much as i can about my culture. i put the gele on my head and i looked into the mirror and i was trying not to cry. because it s a hat, but it s like the most important hat i ve ever owned. discover the story only your dna can tell. order your kit now at ancestrydna.com.
prompt fear in security among the mexican people in this very vibrant city. the mexican pay so has plunged against the u.s. dollar and add to that the mexican government s decision to raise gas prices has sent thousands of protesters to the streets. others to the church. in mexico s holiest shrine where thousands go to pray, the hope is that a higher power is listening. concerns, worries, fears, can be left behind. ramon hernandez worries about the future, his family, the economy, when ford backed out of plans to build this new factory, his hometown lost potential jobs. the same administration that calls this a victory says mexico will eventually pay for a wall on the u.s. border. he tells me the idea sounds
crazy. he is not alone. president-elect is better off paying for a wall to be built around his own home. making mexicans pay for a wall on the border is just a threat. counsel general carlos garcia acknowledges his job as a top diplomat for the u.s. has changed. reporter: will plex co-pay for that wall? no way. the president of mexico, president pena nieto and the entire government of mexico again and again have said mexico won t pay for the wall. reporter: garcia calls the relationship between the two countries one of the most complex in the world. i respect the government of mexico. i respect the people of mexico. i love the people of mexico. . reporter: does that improve anything? it doesn t fix but it helps.
we need to change language. it is time now to start speaking with respect. p pedro adds, the respect must go both ways. even he and a lot of his fellow mexicans recognize this may take an intervention perhaps from the divine p. reporter: we talked to about 20 mexicans across this city, many echoing similar sentiments repeating the words humiliation, racism. saying, let s wait and see what happens. i couldn t nifind one person wh believed that mexico will ever pay for this wall. leila santiago, cnn, mexican city. thank you so much. now, to talk about cold weather that continues to plague many parts of european, let s bring in cnn s allison chinchar to talk more about that. with the cold, you often get
snow. up fortunately, some may think. specially ski resorts. they love to have snow. you can have too much of a good thing. take a look at this. this is from the down hill skiing world cup, canceled on saturday due to too much snow. they picked up about 40 centimeters of snow overnight friday night. crews just couldn t get to the cleanup process fast enough. winds around 70 kilometers hindering. as they would clean it up, the wind would blow it right back over into the same spots. they were forced to cabs that will event. we are expecting more snow on the way as we head into the next week. a surge of cold air that will be return tog unfortunately a lot of the same spots that got a look at the cold. up near the alps, we could be looking at an additional 40-60 centimeters on top of what they have already had. tuesday, incredibly high amounts in the pyrenees, as much as 100
centimeters of snow. the dreaded cold blast coming in. notice where the pink and purple colors are. that s where we are going to see the focus. prague, for example, the average high, 1 degree celsius. we won t get to that for the next seven days. we will be about 8-10 degrees below that average. on the other side of the atlantic, we are keeping a close eye on the ice storm. here is a look at some of the amounts of ice that have already accumulated. we are talking about almost 1.25 of a centimeters. around kansas, about a half centimeter. 1 in joplin, missouri. as high as those numbers are, we are actually expecting more ice accumulation on top of it. the purple areas right here could pick up an additional .5
to 1.5 p of ice. we are talking widespread power outages that could be affected with a lot of these regions. if you have travel plans, please check with your air travel carrier before you do so. stay in touch with you and our meteorologists as we continue to follow. thank you so much, allison. still ahead, the legacy of michelle obama. we look back at her years as america s first lady. stay with us. sometimes you justw when you hit a home run. that s how i feel about blue-emu pain relief spray. odorless and fast-acting. it soothes all my muscle aches and pains. and it s convenient for those hard to reach places. and if you re like me, you ll love blue-emu super strength cream. it s made with real emu oil, it s non greasy, it s a deep penetrating formula that works itself down into your joints. take it from me. it works fast and you won t stink.
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remember the family back then. barack is home at least once a week and we are really doing family stuff. reporter: on the campaign trail, young malia and sasha talk about the weirdness of seeing their parents in magazines. pretty cool. because you see people like angelina jolie. real important people, no offense. mommy is important. the beginning was not so easy. moving into the white house where the bullet proof windows can t be open, the secret service always there. she recently described that first day. i will never forget that winter morning as i watched our girls just 7 and 10 years old pile into those black suvs with all those big men with guns. i saw their little faces pressed up against the window and the only thing i could think was, what have we done? reporter: she did face criticism, even before the
election. for the first time in my adult lifetime, i am really proud of my country. soon after that, portrayed on this new yorker cover, today, how far she has come. on the cover of vogue three times. she has long since found her footing, her causes. by her husband s second term, she eernlg med much more comfortable in public, polished but loosening up in more ways than one? roses are red, violets are blue, you are the president, and i am your boo. the first lady seemed to not only accept the public eye and the constraints of the white house. there are prison elements to it. but it is a really nice prison. to embrace the opportunity to let her voice be heard including her fashion voice, taking some risks, competing with the best of them and making headlines. remember the bangs. we borrowed one of michelle s
tricks. p america has seen michelle obama, harvard educated lawyer and mother, use her humor, hr star power, even her viral mean power occasionally shedding light on what it is like to raise now teenagers in these circumstances. we have one who generally stays here and then we have one we call our grumpy cat. our salty business kit. as her time in office drew down, the once reluctant, now determined first lady drew upon her sweeping popularity to enter the campaign trail as one of the most powerful voices for her party, earning her nickname, the closer. i wake up every morning in a house that was built by slaves. and i watch my daughters, two beautiful, intelligent, black young women, playing with their dogs on the white house lawn.
she took on donald trump s access hollywood tapes. it has shaken me to my core in a way i couldn t have predicted. it is cruel. it is frightening. the truth is, it hurts. reporter: speaking her mind even after the election. we are feeling what not having hope feels like. in her final speech as first lady, her emotion raw. she urged americans not to give up you, to celebrate diversity and talent. thank you for everything you do for our kids and our country. being your first lady has been the greatest honor of my life. i hope i have made you proud. does this mean the first lady has embraced the public eye and loves hanging out with the press. she doesn t do interviews very often. her staff is extremely
protective of her and selective about what she does and when. post white house, we expect first there will be a vacation. the first couple has mentioned many times is badly needed. they will settle into their rented house in d.c. where they will stay for a couple of years until sasha finishes high school. we expect the first lady to keep working on issues she believes in although she has insisted many times now that she will not run for public office. michelle kosinski, cnn, the white house. thanks so much for reporting. now, to a follow-up story we have been reporting an p the young woman kidnapped as an instant and only recently found 18 years later. she ways taken from a florida hospital by someone posing as a nurse. she was taken when she was only a few hours old. she met with her birth parents for the first time on saturday. that is her father, this person you see here. he says that the meeting went
well and that he told his daughter he loved her. first meeting was beautiful, wonderful. it couldn t have went no better. what is the first thing she said to you? are you planning to bring her to here? we are taking it one step at a time. that reunion came after an emotional meeting the previous day when mobley visited gloria williams, williams is in jail. williams is awaiting a hearing on kidnapping charges. say it ain t so. the american circus known as the greatest show on earth is shutting down fr good. the parent company of ringling brothers barn number aum and ba says it is closing the 100-year extravaganza. the last show will happen in may. they dropped elephants as featured performers last year
and business suffered. the ceo explained the decisions and says the tickets have been declining but following the transitions of the elephants. we saw a more dramatic drop. this coupled with high operating costs made the circus an unsustainable business for the company. a successful launch and return for a spacex falcon 9 rocket on saturday. four, three, two, one. liftoff. falcon 9. always so cool to see that. it blasted off from a us air force base in california carrying ten communications satellites. this was the first launch for the private space company since a similar rocket exploded in september. it was followed by a smooth return landing for the rocket s first stage booster and then collided on to an ocean platform known as the drone ship. spacex and its rivals have been trying to perfect the landing,
because reusing the rocket is the key to making space travel more affordable. from outer space now to your inner peace, this newly discovered buddha statue has been sitting undisturbed in a southeastern china reservoir for hundreds of years. archaeologists say it dates back to china s ming dynasty. the top of the buddha s head appeared when the water level dropped. remnants of a temple have also been found below the water. that wraps this hour of cnn newsroom. i m george howell at the cnn news center in atlanta. i ll be back after the break with more news from around the world. thank you for watching cnn, the world s news leader. if you have medicare
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toxins in the body. but the majority of doctors say there s no such buildup of toxins in the body certainly they can t be measured using scientific methods. many detox programs resemble therapeutic fasting the patients say they feel free a mentally and physically afterwards it s the hormones associated with happiness that are responsible the body releases them as you fast. if there were toxins in the body before a detox there should be demonstrably fewer toxins after the detox right the mess and measuring detoxification is a tricky matter we don t pursue any scientific research on this but there s nothing better than seeing the faces of our guests at the end of the program when they say
i m feeling much better i can feel myself again i feel motivated to exercise there s no. i think better so in that sense i don t need scientific research when i hear these sentiments all the time maybe i should conduct the studies myself. but there s no shortage of studies looking into health and nutrition says lilian crist from the charité in berlin. barely a week goes by without new medical recommendations. but often they re based on research that isn t scientifically rigorous they have too few participants or there s no control group lillian christe studies all the major diseases of modern civilization such as cancer dementia and heart attacks.
looking at what might protectors and what might increase the risks the epidemiologist is hoping to counter scientific myths such as detox with facts davison shaft mr. science wants to bring the truth to light and he wants to dispel myths rushed into it once to explain links and determine whether treatments help or not. the aim is to find out more about the human body for example. million crist works for the nationwide narco health study narco is the german national cohort and has been running since two thousand and fourteen the scientists want to examine two hundred thousand people at regular intervals over a period of twenty to thirty years.
the scientists have set the bar high for their study all the tests are strictly standardized from the questionnaire to the smell identification test. despite great progress in many areas science often cannot find simple solutions to complicated problems that clemens i should mention our of course people cling to results that sound like they can be put into practice easily. if the study says he just have to do x. and y. and you ll live ten years longer then that s reported on by the media because people want to hear. these medical myths are akin to a religion. that. we believe quite
a lot of things such as vitamin c. helps against colds this idea dates back to the seventy s new studies have shown it to be a myth once a cold is there vitamin c. has no effect on. reading and dimly lighted harms the eyes. fortunately not it s just tiring it could lead to headaches if the eyes can relax overnight they re fit again the next morning. cherries and water together cause tummy ache that may have been correct in the past microbes in on clean drinking water coupled with the fruit could have triggered unpleasant fermentation process is in the stomach and guts but improvements in water quality mean that this isn t generally a problem any more. so what about the miraculous power of spinach
the green leafy vegetable became famous thanks to popeye. several generations of children were made to consume large quantities of the stuff it would make them a strong as the comic strips ala writes. the rule university in boca is welcoming young guests today you re right students from a nearby high school. they want to examine spinach more closely they re testing the iron content of the vege in the lab. and. the spinach project was dreamed up by katherine sama professor of chemistry didactics. and. she s interested in how
chemistry can be taught in an engaging manner. maybe these students will go on to become scientists themselves one day. katherine zama is convinced that examples from people s everyday lives are helpful like popeye. i used to love what s in popeye and my parents made me to spend it before i was allowed to watch the show. and that s when he ate the spinach he got huge muscles he was a role model whenever i ate spinach i imagine becoming strong. but the notion that there s a lot of iron in spinach is just a myth. scientists themselves created this myth because sometimes they to make mistakes and for mood it it probably came about due to
a transcription error in the lab a scientist forgot a decimal point as a result three point five milligrams became thirty five nutritionist really picked up on that the recommendation was eat a lot of spinach it ll make you strong. but there wasn t just one mistake quite by chance a chemist in basel found thirty five milligrams of iron in dried spinach powder. after the transcription error an error of logic because the fresh hydrated vegetable only has a tenth of the sign content the myth was born. to commit him. but the misunderstanding was cleared up decades ago and yet we re still left with the feeling that spinach is a miracle vege you know. indian fire in this case
we ve taken the myth that spillage makes you strong so we can sensitize the student to the idea you don t have to just accept such assertions you can question them and there are even methods by which you can question it. as part of this student lab project we re doing scientific testing to dispel myths. the students have incinerated the spinach and dissolved it in hydrochloric acid the coloration reveals how much iron the solution contains. the result spinach is merely average when it comes to iron content. wheat bran and pumpkin seeds for example contain far more.
but myths weren t just created in the past the present is also able to generate new myths. can mobile phones cause planes to crash. by heem enders and his colleagues at the german aerospace center in braunschweig are investigating this potentially life or death question. the aircraft s electronic heartbeats in the fuselage. test engineer thomas heineken performs a final check before today s experiment can begin. the test plane is an airbus a three twenty one of the best selling aircraft for short and medium haul flights. can cell phones
really cause their tried and tested technology to seize up. this question has preoccupied us since the first mobile phones came out in the eighty s. fears of electromagnetic radiation were and still are considerable. and shall know me so but i remember having an electronic alarm clock that my phone interfered with when this possibility was transferred to the context of flying where safety is the top priority and it was a sensible idea to be really restrictive about phones at first for fear it could be dangerous but today we can say that we ve gone too far. as a child good for. that s why our him end as wants to test the aircraft s ability to withstand electromagnetic radiation. so how much phone radiation can
the on board system cope with. the systems for navigation and communication are particularly sensitive. to not sufficient vision and a special antenna is going to measure the electromagnetic waves. this plane can take more than one hundred fifty passengers for this experiment the scientists have only invited a few test subjects but the data can be extrapolated from a fully occupied plane. mobile telephony and aviation technology have adapted to each other cell phone radiation is lower than it was thirty years ago and aircraft are better protected. you always have to bear in mind that lightning bolts strike airplanes directly so
that planes fly through radar waves sometimes very close to the source and the airplane has to withstand and this test of the test compared to those threat levels the radiation coming from a phone is ridiculously low. what about hospitals why are there still signs banning the use of mobile phones. and often the radios in the nurse s office cause much more interference than the modern phones visitors have. nowadays almost all medical devices have shielding to protect them from electromagnetic interference so phones don t cause a problem at all. this is been the official position since two thousand and fourteen for planes to the european aviation safety agency decided that passengers don t have to put their
phones into flight mode anymore but each individual airline has the last word. ok with your movies. of unknowns with. one phone can t interfere with the technology on board an aircraft but in reality there are hundreds of passengers on a plane and many of them are carrying several electronic devices such as laptops smartphones in the room. it is. him enders can measure this combined radiation but it s very very weak. we ask again can a lot of electronic devices a lot of active mobile phones collectively endanger the safety of an aircraft
definitive the answer is definitely no it s not even so much about phones which deliberately send out strong signals mobile phones also contain microprocessors tiny computers that can emit electromagnetic radiation interference including in the frequencies used by planes. but these signals are so weak they re insignificant. during takeoff and landing phones should nevertheless remain switched off in the event of an emergency passengers shouldn t be distracted and the devices can cause crackling in the line between the pilots in the tower but that s all. myths often arise from fear parents are particularly at risk. mozart s music makes children more intelligent even before they re born. that was
the claim of u.s. scientists twenty five years ago. follow up studies weren t able to corroborate the effect listening to music has many positive effects but becoming more intelligent isn t one of them. reading to children is also said to improve children s intelligence studies have shown that frequent reading to children particularly in early childhood makes them somewhat more successful in school but scientists are convinced that intelligence originates more from d.n.a. than from the parents behavior. it s different with this myth just let babies cry it out that s not harmful that strengthens their lungs it is said. but in truth infants can t see themselves they need their parents care.
scientific myths are just created through mistakes or uncertainty the media are involved to. xenia past works at the institute of mass communication and media research in zurich she researches how scientific insights are presented in the media climate change for example to this day certain groups continue to deny manmade climate change they describe it as a lie a hoax a myth in this way self-proclaimed climate experts managed to bring well founded scientific insights into disrepute reports about the so-called myth of climate change are particularly popular in the united states paradoxically one reason for the distorted portrayal of
facts is the professional ethos of those in the media. in the west. especially journalists in the united states tries so hard to be objective that when they give air time to an opinion or position they also give a voice to the counter position that means that french positions are given a much stronger or disproportionate weight in the debate. and british archivist in a common. view is mightn t realize that an overwhelming ninety seven percent of all climate scientists are agreed global warming is down to human activity. xenia past has been analyzing the relationship between climate scientists in the media
for years. one of her findings is that the scientists are scared that their study results could be hijacked and misrepresented in public. controversy in the us to keep we were able to say that climate scientists had greater objections to publications when the finding suggested that climate change was progressing more slowly. they were worried that this finding could be instrumental ised by interest groups to say that manmade climate change was a myth and it was all a lie i moved us constantly and gotten danus gonna skipped. senior posts advice communicate science openly and objectively without exception. there s nothing more scientists can do to prevent new myths everything else is in
the hands of the media their readers and viewers. march two thousand and fifteen people who eat chocolate lose weight more quickly this headline in germany s mass circulation builds newspaper created a stir. publications and broadcasters around the world reported on the new miracle diet from germany. in the chocolate museum in cologne we learn what s really behind this incredible study. or rather who. deanna lobel. excellent filmmaker seen here with museum confectioner i got moolah deliberately engaged in some pseudo science
she just invented the chocolate diet. deanna lobel is a television journalist her idea was to test the gullibility of her colleagues to do that she needed a headline nobody could resist slim through chocolate. together with her co-author peter on a can she managed to expose a sick system. our intention was to take a close look at what s happening on the nutrition and diet market we found that the argument very often goes like this a scientific study says if this or that makes us healthy or sick this one and that we should consume more or less of it and if you take a closer look at these studies they re not scientifically repute over most of the time after that s what we wanted to document in our film. all you need
is a white lab coat and ordinary people immediately become deceptively real scientists . studies tend to follow a similar pattern in various groups a set up and have to adhere to different rules afterwards the scientists compare how much weight each group lost. in the case of the chocolate diet it went like this. group a was put on a diet and was given chocolate group b. was only put on a diet group c. continued to eat as before. the on a level and peter on a can started their experiment with sixteen test subjects they were only told afterwards that there s no such thing as a chocolate diet. for three weeks every candidate was weighed daily all changes were recorded. unfortunately
many disreputable studies are conducted this way the desired result is cherry picked from a large mass of different data. i mean we were a data leech we wanted to get as much information from the test subjects as possible so they even had to measure their urine every day which is a completely pointless piece of data but we thought would generate as much data as possible so that we could put everything together in such a way that we could spin it and market our findings as best we could and it worked . the two journalists didn t completely make up the chocolate diet idea but they twisted the data of the test subjects to fit their purpose. the bad thing is that many nutrition studies follow this formula they don t deserve
the label scientific the diet industry creates its own myths in this way. the journalist s final step was to release the fake study to the public they wrote a press release and even invented a research institute that had a reputable sounding name. they created surprised even the un a little. it was crazy we had a made up institute with the address of the production company that produced our film nobody called and it was just a little press release these stories about food and about what we should eat and what we shouldn t run really well we all want to know what the perfect diet is.
deonna lobel managed to create a myth with the help of pseudo scientific methods and her professional knowledge of what makes for good headlines. particularly when it comes to food and drink we like to put facts aside we only listen to those things we want to hear. for example strong liquor aids digestion in truth alcohol relaxes the stomach muscles we feel less full but it s a false message alcohol actually slows down the rate at which we process food it makes it harder for us to digest. but we shouldn t reheat mushroom dishes and outdated rule today
mushroom dishes can be kept in the fridge for a maximum of two days and then we should heat them to more than seventy degrees that way mold and bacteria won t spoil our appetite. is glutamates responsible for nausea headaches and rashes the chinese restaurant syndrome is probably triggered by allergens such as peanuts shrimps and herbes glutamate isn t to blame it occurs naturally in almost all food stuffs and is completely harmless. myths about alcohol aiding digestion for example and the fake chocolate diet awaken false hope. patients in the arthritis clinic in finger near freiburg
are hoping for one thing in particular to walk without pain one day. the orthopedic specialist spend auster maya is an expert in nice surgery and arthritis osteoarthritis is a common complaint in germany more than one in four women and almost one in five men suffer from it their joints wear out too early and too quickly. as fan austin my as patient today also has arthritis in the right knee. the specialist is performing an arthroscopy. the cartilage is smoothed out and the joint is flush to clean it out. the problem is that statutory health insurance companies in germany don t pay for this surgery anymore. one of the companies commissioned
a study and concluded that arthroscopy is more ineffective. flushing out the joint was pointless it s benefits a myth. how do orthopedic specialist feel about this decision the islands are some say it s an outrage others say so what i ve always done things differently anyway my quick count shoes as freely as we could in the past. for. as a result of patients who have statutory health insurance are barred from the possibility of a useful thought. it was here in cologne that the institute for quality and efficiency in health care that knee arthroscopy is were declared a myth. the
assessor stephan s our law and spent eighteen months reading anonymizing everything written by scientists about arthroscopy is. a trained medical expert he concluded that knee arthroscopy is one of the commonest operations in germany were ineffective they had a placebo effect but nothing more. tests showed that a faked arthroscopy was as effective as the actual procedure. cboe effect is all the stronger the more authentic invasive than risky and intervention appears on surgery has a much greater placebo impact than just taking a pill. stephens our lines team of us ss research ne
arthroscopy is with the help of a matter analysis. they compared the data from eleven scientific studies with a total of one thousand two hundred patients. the testers say it s no coincidence that the weaknesses of arthroscopy weren t found out sooner. many of those involved in the health care system had a strong interest in keeping the myth alive. everyone had a collective believe that nice we re benefiting from this patients were happy doctors were happy the industry was happy with us it was lovely and then it had the magic taken out of it that s what s exciting is that you need it very crystallized scientific methods here to debunk the myth it isn t me just twenty one. and
some orthopedic specialists like spannaus the maya are still convinced by knee arthroscopy is and so the myth lives on. how can we get rid of myths from our minds once and for all. the cognition psychologist eka explains that the brain doesn t have a delete button once we ve stored a myth it s difficult to overwrite it with new information. basically what he s discovered is that we re mentally lazy. feeling that with many of the things we hear we don t have the interest or the motivation to investigate them fully our convictions often play
a role to if i want to believe in something and i m convinced of it and it fulfills a certain function for me if it s important to my identity and belief then i won t want to see the counter of a dense i prefer to hold onto the most. people like to stick with the familiar prefer him to block out things that are new. well eka is visiting the university of the zeile and he did his doctorate here years ago he conducts neurophysiological experiments to learn about the brains of test subjects. he discovered that attempts to debug myths rarely work sometimes it even has the opposite effect. such refutations often courses the myth to be repeated and that just makes this
false information seem more familiar if i want to tell you that vaccinations don t cause autism i m just repeating the association between vaccinations and autism the more i do that the more familiar this idea becomes at some point when you think back your recall this association and that s what it comes to mind. in his experiments the psychologist present stories containing different pieces of information some of that information is later retracted or invalidated. his finding our brain prefers to store false information rather than leave a gap in the story. the only chance is this. you need an alternative explanation and if you don t yet know the truth it s important to find out the truth and then it s equally important to present these findings to people
that you have to explain them in a way they can understand. it s the kiss principle keep it simple stupid keep it simple stupid and for. these insights from psychological research provide a recipe for dispelling myths it s crucial not to repeat the myth. an alternative simple explanation is needed instead. but even this method can t combat one of our most popular myths. one glass of red wine a day is healthy. no doubt there are very few people in the wine growing town of eating an in south west germany who don t believe this.
sub in about a from the local tourism office even found an old guidebook in her book shelf entitled the wine dr it dated back to seven hundred fifty three. you know. hildegard stigler helps decipher the old fashioned german writing she discovers recipes to treat colds and improve memory. with. of course all the cures contain one thing wine. this. this is. it contains alcohol and carbon dioxide there are lots of things in wine that we like and that stimulate us. that s why we have such good conversations when we ve
had some wine. women i m not kidding because if you get a cold or you notice you re coming down with one before you ve developed a temperature you can preempt it with red wine you have a glass of red wine in the evening you wrap up nice and warm and then you go straight to bed that way you won t get sick but you have to catch it at the right moment to moment. with the people of iran going take these tips with a sense of humor. but what do doctors recommend. the healthiest thing is to consume no alcohol this single glass of red wine is more of a kind of risk limitation that s not the recommendation basically if you re going to drink wine then don t drink more than this amount. the wine festival in your indian is attended by eighty thousand visitors every year. it s said that the antioxidants in the wine have a positive effect on the hearts and circulation. yet.
the earliest studies that declared a moderate amount of wine to be healthy suffer from serious methodological flaws. scientists compared moderate alcohol consumers and strict teetotallers with yeah they forgot to filter out those who didn t consume alcohol because they were recovering alcoholics or because they were very sick and didn t consume alcohol for that reason so a healthy group was compared to a sick a group the error is that you weren t comparing the alcohol consumption but the preexisting health of the patients and having studied and i quote confirmations and i didn t post and it s a big national here and. so why in isn t a medicine after all.
nevertheless belief in this idea is firmly lodged in our collective consciousness. because we like it that way. and that all too human. myths will always have their place in our society and scientific myths in particular. we always say scientists have found and we like doing everything scientists tell us to and we re all gullible when it comes to science. but not every study is really scientific and the current state of research is always changing anyway. and it s important to teach children to think critically we have to tell them when they re young that there s a lot of information in the world and much of it it s not correct fuse to french
timpanist. that doesn t mean we shouldn t believe anything anymore but we have to check how plausible information is and the reliability of its source. people who need myths need this feeling of security but scientists want to find out what really helps. eco africa. one is the largest predatory
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relationship with trump. did this break campaign finance laws? let s go outfront. good evening. outfront tonight, shutdown victory. president trump taking a victory lap as more than 30 democratic senators join all republicans in a vote to end the three-day shutdown. the house voting moments ago to end the impasse. the deal was done in congress and it was done by senators. that s who made the deal. the president was silent. today president trump only issued a brief statement which said in part, quote, i am pleased the democrats in congress have come to their senses and now willing to fund our great military, border patrol, first responders and insurance for vulnerable children. the short term spending deal came after mitch mcconnell, declared his quote, intention. intention to hold a debate on the dreamers in the come weeks. that s it. intention to hold a debate in a few weeks. there s no formal mechanism to
repeatedly brought up this three-day bill to keep the government open but to force dedicated negotiations. not two or two and a half weeks with doing nothing and then negotiations. you re saying it s only going to negotiate two or three days. that s the point you re making? absolutely in was all supposed to be done since october 1st of last year. the republicans were too busy with that health bill trying to destroy health care for some 30 million americans and the tax bill, which plundered the national treasury to deliver a trillion dollars to richest americans. they couldn t compel themselves to deal with the fundamentals of governing. a spending bill addressing children s health care, addressing community health centers and the opioid crisis. let s talk about this issue. sarah sanders pointed out that s not only in this continuing resolution but that other things in it are also things that democrats like you care deeply about. here she is.
i think democrats realize that the position that they have taken was indefensible and they had to focus on first funding our military, protecting border patrol agent, funding vulnerable children through the chip program. these were things that they didn t disagree with. they agreed with everything in the cr. she brings up funding vulnerable children. doesn t she have a point? our three-day resolution, continuing resolution also had the chip in it. we ve been fighting since last august to get this bill on the floor. this was forged and bipartisanship. it should have passed last september instantly. they held it out as a bargaining chip in a shameful practice of holding 800,000 children hostage. you re saying that you plooef senat believe senator mcconnell because he made this promise to people of his parties.
kamala harris told reports she does not believe mcconnell made any real commitment to deal with immigration. do you think she could be right or you truly do trust mcconnell? i do not trust him at all. he has promised lindsey graham and susan collins, jeff flake. made promises, commitments that he has not honored. however, realize republicans control the presidency. republicans control the senate. the mcconnell has decided to put the amendment box where we put amendments so they can be brought up on floor. he s decided to put his amendments in and lock the box so no democratic amendment can be considered. that s why we couldn t put up be bipartisan understanding we had with many members of the republican party for consideration. in that type of control we realize our leverage is modest. we do hope to hold mcconnell accountable for this promise but i m not sure that we will
succeed. you re being honest here saying your leverage is modest. you don t trust him. let me put it to you straight. the congressional black caucus leader said they re getting their butts kicked. talking about you guys. is he right? we wanted to attach the dream act and opioids to a must pass bill that would get to the president s desk. we failed in that effort. now we re on plan b. it did work in 2013. we re going to carry that battle forward. thank you. i appreciate you. our senior political analyst is out front. mark, i have to say at first he tried to say the promise was to lindsey graham by mcconnell. he s trying to be optimistic but i thought he was more frank later in the interview. our leverage is modest. i don t know if we ll get
anything. he said we re going to hold them accountable. i m going to throw something out. senate democrats did house democrats a big favor by agreeing to this. allowing house republicans to pass this bill, this cr, this continuing resolution for a couple more weeks. it allows the house democrats, all of them who are up for re-election to take a stand and vote against it. that s interesting. i guess it s long term, short term strategy when it comes to the midterm. let me ask you, the president. i played the ad where it s illegal ill grammigrants. the white house is trying to say an outside group did this. hee here he is speaking specifically about dreamers and during the
campaign to talk about the tale of two trumps. it should be a bipartisan bill. it should be a bill of love, truly should be a bill of love. i will immediately terminate the president obama s illegal executive order on immigration. immediately. we re talking about dreamers for other people. i want the children that are growing up in the united states to be dreamers also. mark, look. you put that together with the ad and you hear senator the murkley saying we don t know which president is going to show up. which president is going to show up? who knows. depends what happens tonight. a republican said this to me who is no fan of stephen miller said stephen miller is the last person that whispers this his ear and that s why we re in this problem. republicans are not happy about this. if you look at polls we know that overwhelmingly the majority of americans want the daca issue
fixed. they want to take care of these dreamers. there s that small group of hard liner, specifically stephen miller and some cases the chief of staff who are whispering in trump s ear as well as senator tom cotton and that s why he s stuck on this. nobody knows how to negotiate with the president because they don t fwhoe wiknow who will com door. are they the ones pushing hard line on immigration and winning? new pressure to release a controversial memo in the russia probe. trump s bragging about low unemployment among african-americans. does he and will he get the credit at the voter box?
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it s not laughing matter. it s a serious question. you heard that just discussed. former white house counselor to clinton. also our newest political commentator. paul, let me start with you. you heard sanders say stephen miller is not running the show. do you buy it? no. we thought the show was going to be the apprentice. it turns out to be who s the boss. i was honored to serve president clinton in the white house. every president has to defer on some issues. say if this was agricultural policies, he has an agriculture study at purdue, i think it would be wise to defer to secretary purdue. this is the president s signature issue and on it he has said many times, that he would
sign legislation to regularize the dreamer status and he s flip-flopped because stephen miller, the staff yanks it back. we know who is running the show down there and it s president stephen miller. steve. well, i would say to that paul as long as we re talking television shows, when you say president stephen miller, i would tell you that s as laughable and fictional as the show barney miller. i m thinking of a purple dinosaur. anyone who observes, which is everyone in america, president trump knows whether it was from the apprentice, candidate trump, president trump, knows this is not a man who cedes authority and control. i have the privilege of knowing him personally. the idea he would give up control to a second president or a pseudo president is laughable in its face. what s really going on is the left realizes that they lost in this showdown over the shutdown.
what are they trying to do now. they re trying to create a boogeyman in stephen miller. here s the problem. president trump ran unambiguously on a program of controlling the border and reforming our immigration system as candidate. he was elected primarily probably on that basis and now he s following through on it. he may be out of step with the mainstream media. he s not out of step with america. i understand you all disagree on the power he has. even republicans like lindsey graham says stephen miller has that power. sometimes it s not reality but perception that matters. stephen miller is getting the same headlines that upset when they applied to steve bannon. president miller shutdown. business insider, report some now referring to miller as president stephen miller.
john kelly the chief of staff. how are these headlines for stephen miller and john kelly s future? there s some reporting that general kelly is looking for the exit which i would not blame him. he s an american hero and deserves our respect. mr. miller, slightly less of a hero. he s a 32-year-old guy, worked on the hill. that s fine. i never saw steve bannon overruled the president like this. the president sat down. we all saw it on national television. it was remarkable meeting. he sat in the cabinet room. tuesday meeting. senator dianne feinstein said would you sign a clean daca bill. allow the dreamers to stay with nothing else attached. no strings attached. let me read you what he said. he said yes and then move to phase two which would be come prehencive immigration reform but i think we need to do daca
first. that s the president making a deal until steve miller overruled it. it s unprecedented. the idea that stephen miller, who i really respect. that makes one of us. that he s the pup i said respect steve miller. i don t loik like a staff guy overruling the president. the idea he s the puppeteer is an absurdity. he s an important voice among many important voices. he has the mandate of american people and changing this country when it comes to the economy. yet when it comes to immigration steve miller, not
only is being credited by democrats and republicans with having the final word on this, whether you want to say overruled or convincing. he is passionate about immigration. he actually is the only one who has come out and take questions on immigration from the press. here he is in a combative exchange in the press briefing room. aren t you trying to change what it means to be an immigrant come sboing into this country i you re telling them you have to speak english. can t people learn how to speak english when they get here? first of all, right now it s a requirement to be natural iedsed you have to be english. are we just going to bring in people from great britain and australia? i am shocked at your statement that you think that only people from great britain and australia would know english. sounds like you re trying to engineer the rational and ethnic flow of people into this country. that s one of the most outrageous, insulting and
foolish things you ve said. for you that s really the notion that you think this is racist bill is so wrong and so insulting. combative to say the least, paul. to say the least in that sense i think he s reflecting the president. it s a tragic thing. the majority of americans believe our president is racist in the polling. over 50% thinks he prefers white people to non-white people. why? because he said so. he was in that infamous meeting and he said we need more immigrants from norway and not from unflattering comment countries in africa, the caribbean or central america. when you say you want more white immigrants. that that sense mr. miller is repeating the president s view which is a racist view. what s actually racist is telling minorities and i say this as a hispanic the telling minorities at election time we value you and value your vote and forgetting them between.
we just shut down the government for them. for his panic americans. they shut it down for ill leega immigrants. they have done tremendous harm to the economic prosperity of legal hispanic americans. of legal african-americans. what the president is doing is saying america first no matter your creed or color. your economic prosperity norway first he said. it s my first priority. there s nothing racist about it. that s the opposite of racist. it s saying we re not here to exploit you. we re here to improve your lives. that s what president trump has done. all right. thank you both. paul you have the first. i appreciate your time. next, republicans pushing harder on that controversial memo alleging fbi wrong doing in the russia probe. why won t they let the fbi see
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of partisan talking points and nothing more than an attempt to distract from the russia probe. obviously this memo release the memo has gotten national attention. what is the latest on the push to relohse it an what s in it? i m told by key republicans they are pushing very hard to release this memo very soon. as soon as next week when the house returns to session after a rece recess. it s taking now a verecess. it alleges the fbi acted improperly by not telling the judge who has overseen the warrant that they are using part of the justification that the trump-russia dossier that included the allegations comp e compiled by the british agent. this is something the fbi has requested to review this memo.
full of these republican allegations but the chairman of the committee will not give the fbi an opportunity to review this memo. i talked to one key republican earlier tonight about why the fbi should not review it. this is what he said. i m not in favor of looking at doj and fbi weighing in. they ve been less than cooperative on a number of fronts. they need to have a role in reviewing the memo first? no. they know more about what s in the memo than perhaps anybody else. at this point i think they understand the wrong doing that certainly the memo would highlight. now to release the memo the process is this. the house intelligence committee would vote to do that. it would go to the president who would decide whether or not to declassify it. if he does, the memo is public. lawmakers are seeing nearly
400 new pages of text messages involving fbi agent that was removed from bob mueller s team, some 50,000 text messages. they re saying it shows an effort by the two fbi agents. they were biassed against then candidate trump. it alleges that then attorney general loretta lynch knew they were not going to move forward on some of these charges against hillary clinton as part of that clinton e-mail investigation. republicans are raising concern as about five months of missing tex messages that were not turned over to congress. democrats are saying it s part of an effort to distract from the russia-trump investigation as republicans are starting to pursue this new line of inquiry going forward. thank you very much.
let s talk about the text messages that we have. put aside the ones that are missing. let s talk about the ones we have first. as he points out some of them seem to raise red flags. where they suggest loretta lynch who was then the attorney general knew the conclusions of the fbi s investigation when she seemed to imply i ll accept whatever it is. these texts, let eets just s j clear, were made before comey made the announcements. timing looks like hell. it s her reply that seems to damming. she writes back it s real profile since she knows no charges will be brought. that s the operative text.
does it look bad? absolutely. you re going to read the tea leaves the way you want to. in june of 2016, you have that phoenix tarmac meeting between attorney general lynch and the former president. that s what comey uses as the basis for coming out on july 5th and doing shotgomething unprecedented weighing in and saying we re not going to bring charges but here are things that happened. the fbi has never done that before. we have been around for 110 years. we follow the evidence. does it look bad? absolutely. it absolutely looks bad. i think a lot of people are uncomfortable with it. the only way to get to the bottom is some folks are brought forward and asked to testify under oath. what do you say, richard? i think these two people maybe shouldn t be working for the government. they shouldn t be using their official texts, phone lines to be sending messages to each
other. big picture is that there was absolutely no legal precedent for charging someone with what happened to hillary clinton. we ve been over and over this. that s a 2016 story that they are trying to dig up in 2018. no legal precedent for charging someone for negligently handling classified information in an e-mail account like that. zero. talking a bt computer with hillary clinton e-mails on it. that was used to spread the rumor they are re-opening investigation. they threw the election for trump. the notion they were favoring clinton is laughable to what happened in 2016 that last week of october.
absolutely. let s talk about the texts we don t have. the other issue is we have five months of texts that we do not have. all the inappropriate phone calls to the russian ambassador, the national security advisor, michael flynn. that s a strange time line, let s say the least. they say these are missing because they were switching their sam sung phones. have not answered whether it s these two people s messages that are missing or perhaps others. do they owe it to us to get to the bottom of that? i think they do. at a minimum it fuels conspiracy theories. they look at this and go five months. one month after the election through the transition which is the greatest period of time we re look at this counter
intelligence investigation into russia meddling into our election. yes, it s going to have a huge impact. under normal circumstances, and i ll disagree with richard on this. i would leave this in the office of inspector general. they are apolitical and they do great work. under the current set of circumstances we re dealing it, i think a special prosecutor needs to be appointed. i want to give you chance to respond. information about the fbi. they won t give it to the fbi for the fbi to look at. democrats say it s political who have seen it. when you put all this together, is there any reason to have a second special counsel or is that ceding to conspiracy theoryists. i would have a special counsel. what i blame president obama for is not having the fbi be on top
of the situation with the russians interfering in our election. you re saying you would do a special counsel? no. i think congress, needs to investigate why the fbi wasn t on top of the the russians messing in our election. in 2016, why were the obama administration slow to deal with this. we had the russians interfering in our election, the fbi was aware of it. they just sat around in 2016 and did nothing. it s not this stuff in this report. this is irrelevant to the big picture of what happened in 2016. there was an investigation. just because the president
didn t push it at the time because president obama thought it would tilt the election or he thought hillary was going to win. exactly. there s always been an investigation into that. we worry about china, north korea, russia meddling in our election. that investigation was under way. thank you both. next, a complaint just filed with the justice department over stormy daniel and alleged hush money paid to silence her about an affair with donald trump. did the payoff break the law. trump taking credit for gains that benefit african-americans. does he deserve it? i don t see a lot of what he s doing that has affected the black community. there s a vacation at the end of every week with hilton. whatever type of weekender you are, don t let another weekend pass you by. get the lowest price when you book at hilton.com we can go down this what do you think? never been in love by cobra starship feat. iconapop
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michael cohen has just told me that your complaint is baseless along with the allegation that president trump file ad a false report. what s your agent? the argument is that michael cohen is an agent of president trump. he s president trump s personal lawyer. he was the head lawyer at the trump organization at the time of this payment to stormy dan l danie daniels. we allege two violations. two different types of violations. one is pretty clear that the president or someone closel related to him spent $130,000 to influence the election. hush money to prevent embarrassment of the president with an individual with whom he had an affair who was talking to major media outlets at the time. this came about a week after the access hollywood tape went public. violation number one, failure to disclose an expenditure by the trump campaign committee in the amount of $130,000. the second violation that we
allege is possibly having occurred is if this money did not come from president trump, there was an illegal campaign contribution. if it came from the trump organization, that s an illegal contributi contribution. if it came from another individual, that s an illegal large contribution. that s your logic there. as i said, michael cohen is telling me your suit here is baseless. obviously, daniels has denied the affair. trump also denied via trump s attorney. i guess the question for you if you cannot prove it was hush money that was paid to her, does that take away your case? do you have to prove it was money to shut her up? we don t have to prove anything. the legal standard for filing a complaint like this one at the federal election commission is it s there reason to believe the law was broken. they have subpoena power. it s the dent of justice job to
investigate. they like wise have subpoena power. it looks pretty obvious this was hush money payment given the timing, given the reporting that ms. daniels was talking to major media outlets. she was negotiating with media outlets about appearing and given an interview a view years prior to in touch magazine with great detail about the alleged affair. does it matter if donald trump knew about the money? if michael cohen went and did this without trump s knowledge, does that take away any concern about the campaign? it definitely matters. if he was acting without donald trump s knowledge and authorization and completely without any knowledge or authorization by other trump campaign committee staffers. this will not be. it s not a contribution to the trump campaign. our complaint is invalid.
it should not be prosecuted. i highly doubt that was the case. we re talking about donald trump s personal lawyer who seemingly orchestrated this whole thing. he set up the llc. i m pretty sure an investigation would reveal that donald trump was fully knowledgeable about this. of course as you point out it was tone just before the election. thank you very much. i appreciate your time. thanks so much for having me. next, some gains for african-americans in the past year on unemployment which trump is taking loud credit for. does he deserve it? the white house spending out pictures of donald trump working. i don t know if that s what this is. can i just call it out. sometimes you just have to see that what you see looks a little strange. was he posing? i couldn t sleep and get up in time. then i found aleve pm. aleve pm is the only one to combine a safe sleep aid plus the 12 hour pain relieving strength of aleve. i m back. aleve pm for a better am.
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already employed 50 people says he plans to hire more in the up coming months. we should have a big creation of jobs from a neighborhood of chefs, bartenders as well as server. reporter: it is the kind of economic boost president trump has been eager to take credit for. along with the surging stock market and a record low african american unemployment rate. i am very proud of that. reporter: slipped to 6.8% in december. part of that drop could be attributed to fewer people looking for jobs. and still the latest good news as part of a long-term trend that began under president
obama. i think president trump is sitting if a position where things have been set and the road map was already there. reporter: parks says trump does deserve credit for the record setting stock market. i have seen it definitely rise. it is only fair to give him the credit for that. reporter: what about other promises he has head. a lot of things have not been answered. reporter: do you feel like the president genuinely wants to help the black community? that s a tough question for me to answer. reporter: parks is one of the 88% of black ohioans who did not vote for trump in 2016 and he does not appreciate some of his rhetoric when talking about black people. including recently calling african nations shithole
nations. her tax preparing business was hit hard during the great recession but bounced back. while she deserves trump deserves credit, she doesn t think some of his policies are going to help her. i believe it is going to help the very rich. athena, it is incredible because they are giving credit but credit and votes how big is the gap between the two? i think it could be big. they are giving credit but only on the stock market. some people say they are not in the stocks. so they don t benefit directly. we spoke to several black voters off cramera as well as on camer.
you are not seeing a lot of support growing. thank you so much. and next, is this donald trump working hard during a shutdown? is that what working hard looks like? jeanne moos is next. do you want the same tools and seamless experience across web and tablet? do you want $4.95 commissions for stocks, $0.50 options contracts? $1.50 futures contracts? what about a dedicated service team of trading specialists? did you say yes? good, then it s time for power e trade. the platform, price and service that gives you the edge you need. looks like we have a couple seconds left. let s do some card twirling twirling cards e trade. the original place to invest online.
tonight some people are saying the president who loves to put on a show is doing just that during the shutdown. here is jeanne moos. reporter: there was a time when president trump was proud of his messy desk. look at my desk. reporter: whether in the oval office or trump towers. successful people have a lot going on on their desk. reporter: not much going on on this desk. online critics weren t buying it. i do conduct most of my most important work with a phone in my hand and nothing on my desk while staring vacantly off into space. this the photoy you take while
sitting in the president s desk. the white house probably decided to release the desk photo because everyone kept saying the president i don t think that donald trump did a heck of a whole lot. reporter: nixon could have used a dozen paper weights. but trump wasn t the only president to have his desk sanitized. critics on twitter put stuff there. stuff like a toy train, a toy phone, a cheese burger and diet coke. some imagined he was calling his wife. or maybe on hold with the white house comment line. we look forward to taking

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i want to start with garrett haake, you are in the center of the action. we ve been hearing from lawmakers. to my ears, i don t hear any break in this gridlock. what s your take at this hour? . reporter: yeah, you with choose your own news here at this point, depending on who you re talking to. i m outside a meeting that s been going on susan collins office and the democrats coming out have said no comment, on made vague comments like there s been progress. lindsey gram just left. he s been probably the sagele-most key negotiator. he sees some of the dynamics as potential something to be optimistic about, specifically this idea that the senate would be able to move forward sometime
optimism their close to turning a corner. the work will continue at least until tomorrow. just to drill down on the point you make, they are considering essentially the deal that seems to be gaining the most team is this short-term three-week deal. so the question is why would democrats go for this deal when they wouldn t go for the one that was on the table at the end of the week? reporter: that is exactly the question. because it is the same piece of legislation, except instead of going four weeks, it goes to three. the argument is that democrats might like this deal, because it puts more pressure on the white house, it potential creates momentum that might not otherwise exist to strike a deal in the next three weeks on something that everyone agrees is a priority, dealing with these daca kids. now, the question about what democrats are willing to accept is a good one.
the white house has trying to cast this as we re giving up a concession this week, and so far the democrats aren t biting. garrett, i know it s been a marathon 24, going on 48 hours for you. thank you, my friend. and a marathon for you, jeff, as well. set the scene at the white house. what is the mood there right now based on your reporting. is there any optimism that this gets done today? no on the m. i can tell you president trump has been on the phone all day, a spokesperson tells us, the white house in the last hour has called a lid, which means we don t expect to see him the rest of the day. that doesn t preclude him from tweeting, and we already saw
some of the tweets he sent out today. let s talk about the political messaging. it s fairly remarkable. on the one handle democrats are saying republicans are pitting children against children s, means children who benefit from c.h.i.p., and then the children benefiting from daca and then alose it s not clear which side wins the political argument, but on a substantive level you have democrats saying they aren t willing to renegotiate reopening the document until republicans come to the take and talk about immigration, and not clear at this point how or who breaks this impasse, kristin. it seems like both sides are
increasingly dug in within shut down now 17 hours and counting. jeff bennett, thank you. marc short said today there would be no negotiations on daca until the government is funded. take a listen. we will not negotiate the status of 690,000 unlawful immigrants while hundreds of millions of tax-paying americas, including hundreds of thousands of our troops in uniform and border agents protecting our country are held hostage by senate democrats. joining me now is diane black of tennessee, member and former chairman of the house budget committee. thank you for joining me. thank you for having me it seems like discussions around this three-week short-term
measure, just so we get you on the record, would you support a three-week deal? i would. i supported the four-week deal, which, by the way is the same except for one week s difference, which i am very baffled about how the democrats in the senate can continue to act like an dulled child complain care center. when it s the same provisions they have agreed with the provisions that are in the particular document. listen, there were conversations going on and things looked like they were moving forward. why in the world he decided to that until we have march to take care of these issues when our military, people who given their lives are being affected. congresswoman, the answer to that if you are a democrat, they would argue is because this is their best chance to get a deal, and they say, look, it s the
trump administration that s ending daca in the first play that created this situation. do they nod have a point there, that it s president trump who is severalally taking daca away and creating the situation that needs to be dealt with? let s take this back. as i always do as a nurse, i take it back to the root cause. we know what president obama did was not under his jurisdiction, it s under the house and senate as justice. it s the legislature that makes that decision. we have until the first week in march to make that decision, to actually put out there some legislation. frankly there were very good conversations occurring, so for them to do what they re doing, i want to ask them, do they have a son? a daughter? a husband? a wife in arm s way? and to feel good they re not being paid? i ve been in that situation. i have a nephew fighting for our country. can we not say this is utmost
important that we take care of our people, our men and women in harm s way? congresscom woman, the fact remains that the republicans have control of the white house, the house and the senate, so how does your party not bear responsibility for this shutdown? i only wish we had control of the senate. because of the 60-shoat cloture rule, we have the majority, but we don t have control. i want to i take your point. we don t necessarily have control. this is a president who ran on the platform of saying i am a deal maker. he wrote the art of the deal. in this instance he wantent to close the deal in time. and whose timeline is on on? should he not be meeting with lawmakers? the government is shut down and we just got a lid on the white house. should he not be calling to
figure this out? i want to say whose timeline is that? it was schumer s timeline and it s his shutdown that has done there. there were negotiations and opportunities to have talk. you ought saw that. it was schumer going over to the white house. we don t know what the honest true was, but it s month that are just schumer and the president did what schumer has done is to put our american men annilwomen in peril, as well as our children. look, i m a nurse, i want to make sure the children are taken care of. we have time to do what needs to be done. we have over a month to do that. congresswoman, very quickly, because we re running out of time, based on your conversationses there on capitol hill, do you think this gets resolved by monday? it it doesn t seem like the government will hope today. i sure the heck hope so. i care about children and i care
about our military. congresswoman diane black, thank you for your time on a very busy saturday. you are very welcome. thank you for have you my. time mag psi jane knuten small and congressional reporter for the hill molly hooper, thank you both for being here. is it seems like both sides are just digging in. i was struck but how different it fell. there was so much blame off the bat. both sides weren t speaking, and it took almost a week for the women of the senate to come together and say, hey, this is not cool, we need to talk to each other. so at least people are talking to each other this time around. that s a great point. that said, they re rapidly heading toward that same situation, where things are getting so bad between mitch mcconnell and chuck schumer,
they re not speaking to each other and digging in and starting to blame. when you get the blame game going and the finger pointing going, you devolve into that situation where if they stop talking completely, we ll be in for weeks. we re just going to camp out here. molly, let me have you pick up on that point. really it s an erosion of truth. but what are we are making a deal on? that s what i hear lawmakers say to me. if he tells us what he wants, if he gives us a direction and he says take the hill, we ll take the hill. right now they don t know where to go. when you have schumer coming back, and the is that says let me talk to you guides. and even mcconnell said that. yes, and it s very striking. this is bigger than just daca even nancy pelosi said that
today. one keep democratic med says even if we had a deal with daca, we wouldn t be able to fund the budget. even if we have this deal, it doesn t mean we can fund the government for the rest of the next two years, and that s the key. if we get to four weeks from now, what happens then? they don t have the numbers yet. until they go ahead a deal, they can t go anywhere. jay. i think it comes down to personal relationship. you saw in the last session harry reid and mitch mcconnell, they really hated each other and one thing theye they had in common is they both loved the nationals, they both loved baseball. the first thing they would talk about, did you catch the game?
when you had chuck schumer to come in, there was this hope that they could reset relations, and that s rapidly devolved. i hear those relations are almost worse off now than the relationship between mcconnell and reid. that s such a critical part of it. you raised the shutdown of 2013, and an interesting lesson came out of that. the republicans got the blame, yet they went on to big victories. could we see the same thing? or are democrats risking potential victories? it s certainly a gamble right now. of how this will play out, particularly in swing states. there are 23 sort of vulnerable seats that are up in the next election. they have to defend those seats in states where immigration is not popular. very quickly, last word. you have 30 who aren t running for reelection.
depending on how it works out whether immigration is taken care of in the next few weeks, you never know. thank you for watching this with me. there s a brought to break down. more coverage ahead. but first the other major story today, a live record on the ground, as marches continue out west. we ll be right back. ur years. you named it brad. you loved brad. and then you totaled him. you two had been through everything together. two boyfriends, three jobs. you re like nothing can replace brad. then liberty mutual calls. and you break into your happy dance. if you sign up for better car replacement™, we ll pay for a car that s a model year newer with 15,000 fewer miles than your old one. liberty stands with you™. liberty mutual insurance.
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well come back, everyone, a wave of activism sweeping across the nation. marchers have gathered in cities all around the country. president trump tweeted this message out. get out there now to celebrate the historic milestones and unprecedented economic success and welt contrary that has taken place over the last 12 months. blayne alexander is here in washington, and gina kim joins us from los angeles. blayne, set the scene. what are the marchers telling you? obviously president trump trying to reach out to some of the folks who gathered today. any reaction to that there? reporter: you re seeing the message to president trump, the message they ve been trying to
leave. in fact the march itself for the most part have dissipate d we v been seeing one by one people leaving their signs in lafayette park. this is right across the street from the white house. people saying they wanted their message tore heard, but also after they left. we wanted to talk about the message, trying to talk to president trump protesting his policies, but they re also looking back at some of the major things that happened the last year, the me too movement, talking about equal pay, equality in the workplace. we also heard a lot of conversations about immigration. that is one thing we heard. people trying to make their choice is heard, and namely a
lot of people were talking about the shut down. today s really was a call for women, saying it s not important to vote you but position in positions of power. it shows just how many people are focused on that today. and gina, you are out and you ve been out all day with folks in last. why did they want to come out and march today? one year after president trump s inauguration? reporter: the reasons are very similar to what blayne just mentioned, anything from women wanting to be together with like-minded people, and changing the ware of the election coming up, and right now the woman speaking on the stage is michael
jackson s daughter parents. she was rockses just a mobs ago who was dancing with ted danson. the a-listers have been up there. just talking about their experiences, trying to empower all the people out here, saying what happened if what happened in our industry can happen with us, it can also happen with you. they got great response to that, because there are just so many issues, and one that s been in the forefront has been about transgender and bigender routes. i didn t know until i met mj difranco what bigender was, and you ve been educating people out here. that s why you felt compelled to country down from francis today.
educate us. i am bigender. for many years i knew there was something different about it me. i knew i wasn t the transgender that most understand, because i didn t fully identify as male or female. i didn t have the terminology for it. for so many years i stayed in the closet. i was afraid of identifying myself wrong. so bigender is when you identify as two genders. i identify as male and female. reporter: and you ve been getting great response. it s been great. as i experienced last years a bit of trans-fob use which is unfortunate, but that s why i want to be out here, to educate people. with information come power, and the ability to accept different people and different things.
reporter: i ve learned a lot from you today. mj is just one of hundreds, if not thousands of bigender and transgender men and women out here. another huge group says i am a d.r.e.a.m.er, my rely it was are d.r.e.a.m.ers, that s the voices we have been hearing. what a diverse crowd. thank you so much. great work, laidiers. next, what will it take to strike a deal? and how much this stalemate is costing americans? that s when we come right back. mom,
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end this shutdown. use the authority you are asking for under this rule to bring to the floor the items on which we agree. mr. speaker, you said you would do that take on the tough issues. i admired that statement. i will tell my friend the speaker of the house i will admire even more the performance. speaker ryan said we will not duck the tough issues, we will not kick the can down the road, we will lead, we will not blame others. below speaker, i ask you to do just that. stop ignoring the responsibility as the majority party to keep the government open and serving the american people. now, mr. speaker, i asked unanimous consent to bring up
hr-4872, the end the shutdown act of 2018, a continuing resolution through tuesday that would immediately reopen the government while negotiations continue on a budget agreement that adhere to parity, reauthorizing the children s health insurance program and other critical health care programs, addressing the issue of d.r.e.a.m.ers as requested by the president of the united states and providing assistance to citizens impacted by natural disasters. as the minority whip must surely know, the time dedicated is for debate purposes only. that s steny hoyer, who you were listening to, calling on the house speaker to end this shutdown and to stop kicking the can down the road, something that former congressman paul ryan said several years ago. let s bring in french hill of
arkansas. thank you for joining muss. sure, kristin. thank you. let me ask you respond to your colleague steny hoyer, who says it s up to the republicans, the party who has control, to reopen the government. does he have a point? first, thanks for having me. i have great respect for steny hoyer, he s an outstanding leader of the minority. we passed all 12 appropriations bill and a four-week straight-line that leader hoyer spoke about. the house has done its work. what we are waiting on now is leader mcconnell and minority leader schumer to reach agreement, so we have time to work on a dealing on our
d.r.e.a.m.ers. we just heard steny hoyer with a way out, pass a cr for four days. we have passed a resolution. now you re in gridlock. we re nod in gridlock. the senate was debating going to february 8th. we expect to hear from the senate what date is acceptable, and if it s shorter, i would consider that. the issue is we need the senate to help us, the house having done our work, also operate in good faith. congressman, let me ask you about the president s leadership on all of this. we didn t hear from him today, with the exception of twitter. we know he had phone calls.
but he didn t have any meetings at the white house. has he shown the type of leadership you would expect him to? that was his big argument of the president, to get a deal done. right. well, i think he has democrat stralted leadership, in how to get ngo not only a continues resolution, but get an appropriate equitiability solution. sectly, i do appreciate him directing the omb and director mull investigate join to make this shutdown as easy as possible on or constituents. congressman were you surpriseds to no meetings at the white house today?
i think what you have seen today is it to meet the programs. i think he s given them the big picture. it s the one-year anniversary of the inauguration and according to the policy, the majority and 38% when asked, said which words describes him best? they used the worth disgusted. are you concerned that this could be a drag on the republican party in the mid terms? well, what i m concerned about is we have fewer tweets and more legislation and more work to keep moving our economy forward. that s what i think we ve gotten
down in the past 12 months a good start on more opportunity through the tax bills that was passed in the congress, but i agree, we need less rhetoric and more work together. congressman hill, i know it s an incredibly busy day, so i really appreciate your time. thank you. tens of thousands of people at the participating. could the momentum fuel a new political landscape? we ll break it down after a quick break. needles.
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one of the things i ve noticed is there s a lot more men here, a lot of men with young daughters. a lot of wonderful women here, but men here too. all of us here together. they re calling for swift change in washington. here is live looks at marches spanning the country. today marks president trump s one year in office, and tomorrow it will be one years since the 2017 women s march brought out more than 1 million people. mariana ateccio has been in ne
york. reporter: they said they wanted to bring good men out here. it s not just about these allegations that we heard that it s so important for men to recognize and port women a days like today. a lot of the marcher ended up here. we don t know any official crowd estimates, but i can tell you a lot of the women said turn jut exceeded expectations for them. the big issues with driving people to the streets were daca, the me too move, but also anger against the president. one woman who said what s going on in in the white house can simply not be ignored. let s listen. everything that s coming out of his mouth is horrible. you felt strongly if i didn t saying in, i was part of the problem, and i wanted to be part of the solution.
reporter: a big question is can they materialize the northerly we saw during this march at the polls for the 2018 midterm elections? we don t yet know if they ll be successful, but i would say they re off to a good start. mariana atencio thank you so much for all the reporting today. nearly 50 first-time candidates for office are featured on time s latest cover. the magazine calls them the avengers, laura underwood is running for a seat. thank you for a joining me. thank you, kristin. what made you want to run? was it the election of president trump? was it the mar? marches all across the country that happened a year ago? what was it? i absolutely joined the
millions of women marching last year, but i was spurred to run after our congressman had one pbs event last year, in which he promised to vote against the version of a health care repeal if it took away the opportunity for folks who had preexisting conditions, different health conditions to have coverage. i m a registered nurse, and i notice hoe critical health care is, and i worked to implement the affordable care act. i ve read the law and know that it works. and i m an american with a heart condition. it s one of those diagnoses where, you know, if these repeal bills went through, i wouldn t be able to get health care coverage, so his stance on that health law was critical for me. so he did not present his intentions accurately, and he
actually voted for the repeat bill. afc he did that, i questioned his integrity. so as you watch these debates in washington, around taxes, around daca, are you concerned? democrats have really dig in their heels on the issue of immigration, are you concerned i m not concerned at all. i stand firmly with the d.r.e.a.m.ers and understand we need to stand for something in this time. the american people are with us on immigration, with us on the tax plan, with us on health care, so the republicans really are on the losing side of these areas. lawrencuren, do you think it
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the government shut down and democrats and republicans remain at an impasse. for more on this joining me no is ed ren political analyst and the republican national committee. thank you for being here. great to see you both. great to see you. governor, let me start with you. read the tea leaves for me. if you listen to what law enforcements are saying today, i don t hear any progress, any sign that this shutdown ending any time soon. what are you hearing? and the rhetoric is just terrible. i thought senator mcconnell should have been ashamed of himself last night, trying to say the democrats were taking health benefits away from young children by not voting to reauthorize c.h.i.p. we wanted to reauthorize c.h.i.p. a month ago but they were too busy with a tax cut
that gave benefits to the richest people in the country. $341 billion to real estate developers. they could have given the kids an extension on c.h.i.p. and they decided they didn t want to do it. so it comes with ill-grace for them to bring that up. governor, i hear you on the rhetoric. but don t both sides share the blame on that. isn t everyone using heated rhetoric and in some instances childish rhetoric that isn t progressing the negotiations. right. but at least the rhetoric should have some relationship to the truth. the reason c.h.i.p. isn t reauthorized is the republicans won t bring it up for a vote a month ago. a month ago. but look, you are right, kristen. there is too much rhetoric. there is too much heat in this. there is too much looking to put the political blame on each side. but it comes down to presidential leadership. the president has to tell the congress what he would accept. the republicans aren t going to move without that. and the president has got to be crystal clear. and as you heard, senator
mcconnell himself say he doesn t know where the president stands. let me and that is the relationship and that won t get done. let me let caylee jump in here. you want to respond to a whole host of things that the governor said. what do you make of the fact that president trump from the perspective of democrats getting the blame for this. well he doesn t deserve the blame. that is ridiculous. because there is nothing in this bill that democrats oppose. they are for c.h.i.p. and funding the government. and in all due respect to governor rendell, it is not rhetoric when we say that democrats are holding the future of 9 million children and 2 million of them sick hostage to the fate of 700,000 illegal immigrants. that is truthful. the washington post glem kessler dismantled the jimmy kimmel argument that that was not true. it is true that the house passed a bill to sustain c.h.i.p. democrats have never produced legislation to sustain c.h.i.p. the short-term c.r. funding in december maintained funding for c.h.i.p.
republicans have sustained funding for this. democrats have not even produced a piece of legislation. if they care so much, they would have showed and give the 9 million children to access of health care. and caylee, republicans control the white house and the house and the senate. and i ve asked a number of your republican colleagues about this. but don t republicans ultimately bear responsibility. you guys have control of the government right now. we do. and that is why the house did pass a c.h.i.p. bill to fund c.h.i.p. but ultimately when we get to the senate, we all know this and taken civics. you need 60 votes to get something through the senate. we need nine democrats. where are the nine democrats coming to the table because this government can t stay open and we can t fund c.h.i.p. without them. the governor, it is true you need 60 votes in the senate and back in 2013 republicans got blamed for that shutdown because they wouldn t get on board or, are they going to bear the responsibility of this,
ultimately when voters go to the polls. look, kristen, as you know, the senate majority priority calls the counter. if he called up for a vote a month ago, you would have gotten not only nine, but 49 democrats voting for it. so that is a butch of bull that the democrats didn t want to pass c.h.i.p. but look, 87% of the american people, including a majority of republicans want the d.r.e.a.m.ers to be protected. it is simple. sit down, protect the d.r.e.a.m.ers, and let s give the president some increased border security, and ivan give him money to buttress the existing wall to do repairs an get it done. it is simple. 87% of the american people want it. they don t think these d.r.e.a.m.ers are illegal. they think they are good american citizens. i hear you. who served in the army and some have given their lives to this country. let me ask you about a recent poll, though. 58% of people said they were opposed to shutting down the
government over daca. what do you make of those numbers? well, look, it s the only chance we ve got because the president ended daca. remember, this didn t happen because time line ran out, the president decided to end daca. and this is the only leverage we ve got to get it done. so what is so hard about it. if everyone is for it, and i heard speaker ryan say, we re all for giving the d.r.e.a.m.ers protection. well let s do it now. let s get it over with. but governor rendell, but we know that president obama did this via executive action and he said 22 times, i lack the authority to do this and he did it, these daca recipients are in this position because of president obama unconstitutional action. if everyone wants to everyone wants to do it and everyone claims they do, what is the big deal. let s do it now and keep the government open. caylee, does he have a good point. what is the big deal democrats say let s stop kicking the can down the road and deal with this
issue because march is the drop dead date. there is the drop dead date and that is in march. and president trump has moved on this. president trump said let s get permanent daca and now it is incumbent upon democrats to move toward him and say yes, we ll give you a border wall, it is give and take. before i let go. i have to ask you about polling. a washington post poll which shows a majority of americans right now blame president trump and republicans for this shutdown. 48%. are you going to feel that when voter go to the poll in the mid term. not at all. the cnn poll showed they didn t want a shutdown over daca. they don t want to shutdown, the facts are getting out there and americans are waking up and realize this is a shutdown that didn t need to happen. governor could i say one quick thing. very quickly. we re out of time, go eagles. go eagles. governor, and caylee, thank you so much. and that wraps it up for
this hour here at msnbc. i m kristen welker. our continuing live coverage of the government shutdown continues next with joy reid. have a good night, everyone. ace. laura can clean up a retriever that rolled in foxtails, but she s not much on articles of organization. articles of what? so, she turned to legalzoom. they helped me out. she means we helped with her llc, trademark, and a lot of other legal stuff that s a part of running a business. so laura can get back to the dogs. would you sit still? this is laura s mobile dog grooming palace and this is where life meets legal.
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