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Amnesty. that's not constitutional. he has not been able to succeed in it, because it isn't constitutional. he has proven on this issue he doesn't want to work with congress, he wants to go around congress. that's why i don't think we should act on this. if we can get consensus as to how better secure the border, do things like interior enforcement. that's something we can work on. as far as a big immigration bill, i don't think this is a white house we should work with on this. >> the other thing is that president obama has no inclination to pass an immigration bill this year, either. i think...

Enforcement, i think that's fine if we can advance that. i do believe if we try to move in a impressive way with a president who's proven he wants to go it alone, i don't think that works. >> reporter: luke russert, packers owner. the transportation bill is paid for -- >> we're going to jump out of this. paul ryan holding his very first news conference as the brand-new speaker of the house. the leadership said they're not afraid of having an idea. they're there to solve problems. they say it is a new day in the halls of congress. still to come in the "newsroom," carly fiorina versus "the vie...

Now -- you know, in the central american border surge, a lot of these people coming over voluntarily surrendered to a border patrol agent. it wasn't the matter whether they were getting stopped, they were seeking out border patrol agents because they knew they had to be waived into the country to show up for a hearing at some future date. and all of the time i.c.e. is coming across illegal immigrants in jail and doesn't do anything about it. that's really where the interior enforcement is where we should focus more. it's easy for everyone to say, the border, the border, the fence, the fence. >...

Will to enforce the laws that we have now. in the central american border surge, a lot of them voluntarily surrendered to a border patrol agent. it wasn't getting stopped and not stopped. they were out border patrol agents because they knew they had to be waved in. most don't show up. and all the time isis coming across illegally in jails and doesn't do anything about it. that's where the interior enforcement is where we should focus more. it is very easy for everyone to say, the border, the border, the fence, the fence. >> and chris christie has said beware of anyone who tells you we'll build...

Down on the employers who employ illegal immigrants. the employers are very powerful. they don't want to deal with this. they consider it undue regulation. and a lot of small businesses, they like the cheep labor. that's the dirty little secret here. >> on this issue, this is one where jeb bush has gone after trump saying, he's not really a conservative. if you were you wouldn't mandate spending this money that the government doesn't have to put up this wall that's not going to work because it's going to cost money that the country doesn't have. >> i wouldn't say it's unconservative to talk ab...