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Testimony. it seems like others have had to testify before congress. does it make sense from a pr perspective? perhaps. from a legal perspective it's hard to say with all of the ongoing investigations of matters related to the campaign and the families close involvement in the campaign that there's not any exposure not to mention the foundation which she was a board member. >> that's a different matter. so take a listen to trump taking a listen to trump tower.

Rudy giuliani was added to the team. i wonder from your perspective if rudy isn't perhaps creating some questions about the president's contact by saying, our answers to robert mueller include that donald trump was working on the deal from the day he announced until the day he won. >> yeah. it is not helping from a pr perspective. it is not helping from a legal perspective. it is hard to fathom what perspective it is helping from. you asked these intelligence thoughtful questions, so i'm really searching for some unified field theory of physics here to explain what the heck he is talking about...

Won. >> yeah. it is not helping from a pr perspective. it is not helping from a legal perspective. it is hard to fathom what perspective it is helping from. you asked these intelligence thoughtful questions, so i'm really searching for some unified field theory of physics here to explain what the heck he is talking about. when i was a baby prosecutor and some experienced defense attorneys said something bizarre in court, i would automatically assume he was smarter than me or more clever than me. and sometimes it is just bizarre. i mean, sometimes what the answer devolves to is it is just bizar...

Yeah, answers to robert mueller include that donald trump was working on the deal from the day he announced until the day he won. >> it's not helping from a pr perspective. nicolle, it's not helping from a legal perspective. it's really kind of hard to fathom what perspective it's helping from. you know, you ask these intelligent thoughtful questions. and so i'm really searching for some, you know, unified field theory of physics here to try and explain what the heck he's talking about. when i was a baby prosecutor and some defense attorney, some experienced defense attorney said something biz...

We will see if the president comes out of this meeting seeming discouraged or coming away with a message that republicans are not universally behind him. that could dramatically change the game here. and i will say that a lot of the sources i'm talking to, the more this drags on, the more there's a sense that there won't be a a resolution unless the president does declare a national emergency. they don't see a way for him to declare the victory he seems to need are a pr perspective. it is bless what is going on than what is necessary. the administration started trying to make that argument las...