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Hang pence and interfere with the certification of the presidential election. so he's a very important witness i think in any criminal case that could be brought against trump. >> as an experienced prosecutor, what is your gut as to how far along the doj investigation is given that they are now seeking the testimony of mike pence? does that give you an indicator that they're in the final stages? >> i think they are in the final stages. of course, out of left field we had a special prosecutor appointed by a.g. garland. i think this special prosecutor is going to come in and really accept the in...

Cnn has learned the justice department is now seeking former vice president mike pence's testimony in its criminal investigation into former president trump's attempts to stay in power after losing the 2020 election. pence's team has indicated he is open to discussing a possible agreement with the doj to provide at least some testimony. joining us, cnn senior legal affairs correspondent paula reid. he refused to give testimony to the january 6th select committee. appears a different approach to the department of justice. what do you know? >> you have to have a different approach, jim, because ...

Asserted that earlier against the vice president with respect to publication of the book. they did not. i think there's a very good argument here that they've waived their right now to assert executive privilege on that issue. >> such a great point. so many books have been written by folks who refuse to testify before various committees here. pence's team has said they'd be willing to testify on some issues. is pence's team setting some guard rails around the subjects they will talk about and will not talk about? >> yes. i think they are. obviously the doj will want his cooperation. i'm sure t...

Try to move these things along as quickly as possible. >> deliberate strategy it seems for trump's team. paul rah reid, thanks so much. let's dig in deeper with paul callan, former new york city prosecutor. paul, happy thanksgiving to you. thanks for joining us. >> happy thanksgiving to you, jim. >> what's the likelihood he testifies here -- as paula notes, it's different, a subpoena from the justice department is different from a subpoena from the january 6th committee. so do you believe he does eventually give some sort of testimony? >> yes, i think at the very least he's going to cooperat...