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Sort of that outlandish but a kind of cyber war, right? that is possible? >> it's possible according to the head of u.s. intelligence, as you said. the russians are in our power grid. the chinese are in your natural gas pipe lines. but since that announcement, the white house intentionally leaked that we are in the russia power grid. there's an incentive to go first and there's a belief i think in some corners that cyber war is okay because no one dies so we can do it. you saw that a few weeks ago when trump decided i don't want to kill anybody in iran by bombing in retaliation for the downing...

Laden, so you certainly wouldn't want them giving the kind of interview that his mother gave which is pretty anadine and isn't sort of saying we're committed to jihad. >> right. compared to what his wives would be saying. >> yeah. >> keep them quiet. yeah. peter bergen, thank you. >> thank you. coming up next, this manhunt in texas comes to an end today after the man accused of killing a prominent houston cardiologist takes his own life. what police are revealing about this list they found at his home. liberty mutual saved us almost $800 when we switched our auto and home insurance. with lib...

All right. let's pick up with this next story, this possible child abduction at a washington, d.c. airport. police have searching for this little girl who they say was abducted shortly after arriving at reagan national airport in d.c. with a tour group from china. an amber alert has been issued for her, she is just 12. police say that they believe she left the airport, keywords here, without force, with an unknown woman. when you look at this airport surveillance video it shows the woman helping the girl put on some sort of clothing and when they left together the 12-year-old was wearing a whi...

Raid in pakistan in 2011. you note they are all living in saudi arabia. but they can't leave. remind us why. >> well, you know, there is a whole -- i think the key thing is the saudi government doesn't want them going out there and talking about bin laden. they themselves, you know, probably don't have much of an inclination to do that. the saudi government it's an authoritarian state and they can control who leaves, who -- you know, the new crown prince of saudi arabia, you know, he is running a semi-totalitarian regime. whatever he wants he really gets. one thing he doesn't want is a lot of ...

Immigration, don't negotiate on immigration? to solve this shutdown, and it might be republicans can give them assurances. they have talked about reducing the length of time before the next spending bill would need to pass. but there isn't sort of this obvious win that republicans can give democrats to try to reopen the government, get back to this immigration issue. >> sabrina siddiqui is with us from the guardian. if the president did what he said he would do back in 2013 when there was a government shutdown, when he was critical of then-president obama for not taking charge, getting everyon...