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Now you can take control of your home wifi and get a notification the instant someone new joins your network... only with xfinity xfi. download the xfi app today. here we have a u.s. national security official who's advising ukraine while working inside the white house apparently against the president's interests and usually they spoken in english, is that kind of an interesting angle on the story? >> i find that astounding and some people may call it espionage. >> we know the soviet union immigrated with his family, young. >> fox news launched a smear

The ukraine. >> it seems clear he is incredibly concerned about ukraine in the past. i don't know about his concern with american policy, but his mission was to make sure the ukraine got those weapons. we all have an affinity to our homeland where we came from. >> here we have a u.s. national security official who is advising ukraine while working inside the white house apparently against the president's interest and usually they've spoken english. isn't that kind of an interesting angle on this story? >> i find that astounding and some might call it espionage. joining me now, jeff bennett. po...

Iran and cyber activity for decades, experts say this recent hacking attempt could be an escalation of a long-standing problem. >> it is hard to put this in context without knowing what their and motivation is. is it espionage? they have a long history of doing that. is it in the second category of using cyber attacks? >> has emailed us reportedly one of the targets, he works as a senior director for cyber security policy under both president obama and president trump. the hackers are said to be part of the group known as charming kitten. >> they are known for being a little sloppy and a littl...

Actually answer them. >> we're not going to comment on jerryd. we're just not going to excellent. >> national security adviser h.r. mcmaster did try to defend kushner without saying his name. >> generally speaking about back channel communications, what that allows you to do is to communicate in a discreet manner. >> it's very concerning that they wanted to have these communications at russian diplomatic facilities using russian phone lines. that shows that they were really trying to conceal this from the obama administration. and from u.s. intelligence. >> the reactions to the kushner story i...

Because obviously there is a lot we don't know. we don't know the exact content of the conversation. we don't kw the objeive that was stated from the kushner side during the conversation. those things we don't know. but i can't keep out of my mind the thought that if an american intelligence officer had done anything like this, we'd consider it espionage. >> yeah. would bit fair to say that a conversation like that, even if it wasn't -- even if the plan wasn't executed, gives the russians the feeling that they own jared kushner. they own a person from that point forward who would make a sugges...