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Question. don't privileges needs to be asserted in order to apply? >> well, privileges are recognized -- >> once they are asserted? >> i think as a general pron six -- >> fair enough. i'm asking a general proposition. >> you would assert the attorney/client privilege. >> yes. and who asserts executive privilege? >> ordinarily -- well, that is a complicated question, senator, actually. >> who does it come back to? ultimately, who asserts executive privilege? >> so it depends what you are talking about. what kind of executive branch document you are talking about. it depends. in my experience --...

Or with ms13 basically. it's a demagogue's toolkit that he uses and he uses it effectively. >> and elise jordan, to an extent he chips away at his own credibility when he has policies like the separation policy. he talks about the wall. he talks about immigration and the most, in the most, quite frankly, degrading way to people, but some of that is appreciated by the base for whatever reasons. having said that, isn't it fair to say the policy of taking children away from their families has definitely hurt the president? nobody likes that. i can't imagine that would poll well. >> well, and mika...

Had success in pushing u.s. allies to spend more on defense, which has long been a charge of u.s. presidents. take a listen to this exchange. >> there was accused in that generation -- >> why was that last year? >> also because of your leadership, the message and -- >> they won't -- >> i have said it before but the thing is that it really has -- your message is having an impact. >> that's u.n. secretary general stoltenberg, crediting president trump with getting u.s. allies to chip in more. isn't it fair to say his strategy here is working? >> well, jake, clearly i think other nato countries s...

>> the thing is that your message is having an impact. >> that's u.n. secretary general crediting president trump with getting u.s. allies to chip in more. isn't it fair to say his strategy is working? >> well, jake, clearly i think other nato countries should chip in more. it has been a goal of american through democratic and republican administrations for decades. at the end of the day we'll see if that actually happens. this president has a tendency to make bold statements after meetings. there may or may not be results afterwards. let's go back to the president's photo op opportunity. afte...

They are not behaving as if it's a big concern and this is an issue for us because we have a lot of military objectives across the world. europe is not the priority that it was in 1949 when we created nato, so their lack of support for their own mission is very disconcerting. >> mike: pretty interesting must-see tv seeing a president get into it face-to-face with face with the nato secretary general. take a listen to this. >> it's disproportionate and not fair to the taxpayers of the united states and we are going to make it fair, so that will be it. i want to just complement the secretary, he...