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You're absolutely right that with the vaccine, it was, you know, quick, great, we should celebrate that... and, if i may say so, private—sector led. no, it wasn't private—sector led, there was both public and private. there's six different vaccines. the mrna, a technology of thejohnson &johnson vaccine, for example, was all early stage darpa—funded, but that's not really the point. of course there was private—sector investment, there was also public—sector investment. in the us, the national institutes of health spend, every year, $40 billion on health innovation. many of these vacci...

Many of these vaccines, the technology behind them, actually started decades ago. so it's always public and private, itruly believe, in partnership. the problem is, if you look at the vaccine, the mission — if we want to use that word, is not the vaccine, the mission — is to vaccinate everybody globally and to make the vaccine accessible. on that front, we have failed miserably. and dr tedros at the world health organization, who i work with quite closely, calls it "vaccine apartheid", where you have 80% of the vaccines being hoarded by a very small group of countries. many african countri...

Celebrate that... and, if i may say so, private—sector led. no, it wasn't private—sector led, there was both public and private. there's six different vaccines. the mrna, a technology of thejohnson &johnson vaccine, for example, was all early stage darpa—funded, but that's not really the point. of course there was private—sector investment, there was also public—sector investment. in the us, the national institutes of health spend, every year, $40 billion on health innovation. many of these vaccines, the technology behind them, actually started decades ago. so it's always public and ...

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