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Self-deprecating comes to mind. i remember the very first time i met him. he never said he was from new york city. he said he was from the bronx, and he was the first to say he went to -- he didn't go to west point. his grades weren't great. he went to city university of new york, and the fact that he could make it, rise toni the position of joint chiefs and that he went from the stoops of the bronx to a city school that you could make it. >> absolutely. jamie, thank you, as always. >> sure. >> for being here. we are waiting to hear also from president biden himself. we have seen many statemen...

Think the lessons are of general powell that you hope any young military officer with carry with them? >> first of all, that was very heartfelt comments from general austin, who i know well, on general powell. general powell's legacy is that he came from very humble beginnings. his family emigrated from jamaica, and he was raised in new york city. and with grit, determination, you can do anything. and he was an example of that. in his autobiography, "my american journey," he talked about that. doing the right thing always. and he was such a trail blazer, i think that is helpful not to just peo...

Cheese. ok, i hate to say it but we need more butter. that's why nobody who eats pizzoccheri lives beyond the age of 35. see all that nice cheese melted in there. ok everybody just come and pick. that's enough pizzoccheri for like a thousand people. jamie, ja-- jamie, give me the camera. you eat. do you like it? >> jamie: i like it. thanks very much. >> tucci: oh, they're eating it. the crew is exhausted, they're ravenous and they're lapping it up but will my efforts stand the test of the locals? the family that owns the lodge we're staying in have offered to be my judges, including the