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>> because these people -- >> tucker: you are against a wall it -- >> the people in this caravan are seeking asylum status pair they are not drug runners paired all the pictures that are up right now on the tv are of them checking in at police stations. >> tucker: you don't know who they are, actually paired you have no idea who they are, and neither do i. >> which is why we have a process for hearing their asylum claims. >> tucker: hold on. you know as well as i that a wall would give us some control, physical control, over our borders. it works, which is why you hate it but why would you argue gets the right of a sovereign nation to determine who comes in? what is your motive and that, honestly? >> the drugs are going under the wall and over the wall, not so much through a point of entry like mcallen, texas. >> tucker: i'm not certain we know that peer people are going on foot, and a wall would stop some of them. why would you oppose some of that? >> there was a point jace the other day of a gigantic air-conditioned drug tunnel with a mini subway in it.
three of the united states constitution. justice scalia said, a good judge will sometimes comes to a conclusion although he doesn't agree with the result, understands the application and is required to follow the law. what's the role of the judge? follow the law. >> he actually added to that, what the law demands regardless of his personal view. very powerful statement by judge scalia. jace jay sekulow, good to see yn this historic night in many ways. joining us now, fox news contributor of andy mccarthy, and the author of, "players, leakers and liberals." good friend of the program and gracious to fill in last week, judge jeanine's shapiro. democratic presidents never get it wrong, they always get the judicial activists. there is, i think -- i loved what i read, the words of judge kavanaugh, and i loved what i heard tonight.
counsel is in investigating potential crimes that the public is not yet aware of. they filed that pleading in an effort to keep some of their information out of the public eye, and now we see this story about torsion, the russian deputy chief at the russian central bank surfacing, and it's interesting, because in 2016, there was contact between torsion and the nra and the trump campaign, ultimately resulting in this meeting with trump jr. during the nra convention during the national convention, and so mueller undoubtedly knows a lot more about this than we do, if a spanish prosecutor believes, based on wire taps, that trump jr. is in trouble, then we can be certain that mueller is looking into this and we'll hear more about it in the coming weeks. >> jace vance, always appreciate hearing from you, thank you. >> thanks for having me. in just a moment the uproar over the nfl anthem policy and president trump's role in it. managing blood sugar
it is. >> there is in automatic recount. >> no. you have to call for it. but i was just hearing from a republican strategist who said either way a recount one way or another. and that both sides would probably want one or the looser would want one. >> generally don't change much. >> right. >> this is -- this is a close enough race it gets down to a couple hundred votes, it's possible but again it generally doesn't change that much. >> if it gets down to less. >> gets down to less. >> like eight votes. >> it definitely could change. >> it depends on whether one of the campaigns or one of the parties was actually working and organizing absentee ballots. at least from the allegheny results you would think that lamb was. i don't know who was. but they wouldn't necessarily just work it in a county good for them. they would encourage democrats. >> jace on if conor lamb pulse it out tomorrow morning what is
an targument in his let's today. and to go back to what john said whether you're a republican or democrat, if you're firing the fbi director who is leading an investigationi into your campaign, that is not good look. and they're going to continue to be more and more questions, more and more calls. as chaotic as tonight feels, we're at the genesis of our house it it they're going to have hearings for whoever the new fbi director will be. this is just the beginning. >> jace. how could the white house thought know this would be a big ostory. >> i'm not sure that was
>> makes her comfortable when she is wheeled back. then she is away from us. but she decided to be brave. i think that is where the idea about be brave and keep going. she wanted to have that memory of being with all her cousins and with us and telling us bye. we all gather around her bed and say a prayer. i saw a little tear come down. i was like, it is okay. and she was, she just decided to be brave. so -- >> waiting for one instance. might change your mind about this i was watching her closely. i could see a little bit of fear going in fully awake and operating room and not knowing what will happen. we let her decide. she kept boeing. so we let her. jenna: wow. we think about cleft lip or cleft palate, jace, don't realize how common it is. and don't realize how many surgeries some children have to go think for it. >> in each case may be more severe than another. in mia's case it was pretty severe.
invited trump to the border has pulled out of his events this afternoon. that's apparent lay after concerned expressed by the national border patron union. the republican front runner, donald trump will be here anywhere, we're told. he made the issue of immigration center of his presidential campaign, but he's come under scrutiny from nearly all of his rivals for comments calling mexican immigrants rapists and murders. jace joins me. how are you? >> thanks a lot. >> let's talk about laredo. paint a picture of laredo and what is the city that mr. trump is coming to today? >> a city of about 250,000 people. its economy relies almost entirely on cross border trade. the biggest commercial port on the border. and so people here, their livelihoods are very, very much tied to u.s.'s relationship with mexico. >> and for generations. >> particularly since nafta.
jace and i think people as siblings have that, grow up like that, fight, work together. he's my older brother. he doesn't want to listen to his younger brother. >> how did you become the ceo? >> because i'm smart -- >> [ laughter ] >> he's going to love this. >> i don't know. i think at this point you have to have the desire and jace, obviously, look at him on the show, the desire wasn't there to run it and do it. he really wants to hunt and be in the woods. he doesn't mind working. he works. >> let's see what we have going on out here. is that him working? >> guys -- >> they should be. >> wow, shocker. >> where are they? you got to finish one here? >> there we go. >> no? >> no. >> phil taught you. >> phil taught me, got to use your tongue.
duck calls, too. we still make them here. with the show a lot of people buy them. i have another room that has people in it that literally work eight hours a day. >> uncle sy sitting over there. >> you know -- >> jace is here. >> but jace has to teach all the new guys how to make -- you know, the technical as speblpea it's like musical instrument. you have volumes, tones. >> how did your father start this? 40 years ago? >> he wanted his duck call to sound just like a duck. >> i watch the show a lot and they always play basketball. where is the hoop? >> it's out there. >> it's out there? >> i'll probably hit the basketball. >> i see on the show more times you tell people to stop playing. >> every once in awhile i come back here to shoot -- >> to unwind. >> whenever -- yeah. do you play basketball? >> yes, sir. >> are you any good? >> i think i could beat you.
jace and i think people as siblings have that, grow up like that, fight, work together. he's my older brother. he doesn't want to listen to his younger brother. >> how did you become the ceo? >> because i'm smart -- >> [ laughter ] >> he's going to love this. >> i don't know. i think at this point you have to have the desire and jace, obviously, look at him on the show, the desire wasn't there to run it and do it. he really wants to hunt and be in the woods. he doesn't mind working. he works. >> let's see what we have going on out here. is that him working? >> guys -- >> they should be. >> wow, shocker. >> where are they? you got to finish one here? >> there we go. >> no? >> no. >> phil taught you. >> phil taught me, got to use your tongue. >> that's an aggressive -- you