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happen. to raise that money, promote that, sell those tickets and coordinate these schedules. arts administration or something, i'd like to see more programs in arts administration that are funded by the federal government. because not everybody -- what is it? like, you know, 1% of everybody that picks up a violin gets a seat on a really, really esteemed orchestra. the other 90% teach or play something that is not, you know, for the boston or the cleveland or the big five if you will or for the san francisco, or for -- and utah, or dallas, well these are the great symphonies they don...

see him very much because the interns that were there, we worked eight hours, 12 hours, and most of these guys were all of the interns i've worked with, they were all just alcoholics in training. they'd have all the parties in all the houses senate office buildings and i came in and i was like gomer pile, what are y'all doing now? what y'all wanna do after work? and they have a list of all the national association of carpet shampooers meeting, the national association of q-tip weaver meeting. and all of these organizations meeting and these guys i worked with, they knew the skinny on...

back in season six. and we agreed we'd do it for a couple more years. i would have done it next year and the year after that. but the truth of the matter is that nbc is in its predicament and probably need to scrape the paint off the building and start all over again. they've got their pride. they're like anybody else in media, they're competitive and want to win and don't want nbc to stay in this predicament. i'll finish this by saying -- and i mentioned this to someone else. working for nbc was not insignificant in my decision. i did not know tina that well before the show began. i...