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Office of president of United States and will preserve, protect and defense the constitution of the u. S. Except where nobody gets killed or robbed. His point is basically that a crime is a crime is a crime, correct . Exactly. I think you see through georges tweet a commonality, again, between he and i. Even though we come from very different sides of the aisle, but a common belief, a core belief in the rule of law in america. And thats a belief that Rudy Giuliani himself shared as a prosecutor. I dont think he was only putting murderers behind bars. There are whole Statute Books being enforce...

Night is the idea that you have michael cohen saying everything that happened at the trump org went through mr. trump, including the payments for the women. he knew about them. he's lying about that. alan says that, too. it's also true with the foundation stuff they're looking at with the other investigation. and so says david pecker, his longtime friend. it's true. he said all this stuff. he knew about it. so you sit down and ask the president about it and he says i never directed it. i never knew anything about it. and they say is that what you knew about michael flynn and the ambassador. me...

They want to scare everybody into making up stories that are not true by catching them in the smallest of misstatements. don't you take his device and snap it in front of him and say, didn't you just hear that mueller wants to talk to you, man? don't you understand what's happening here? stop antagonizing the man with all the power! >> i want to say i agree 100% with asha on, why would flynn make that argument? >> because he wanted more leniency. >> right, but he already had leniency. he already had a deal. he is poking the bear. that didn't make a whole lot of sense to me. but also, in that m...

And i foresee many people who criticize the president by saying he didn't even have the guts to sit down and tell the truth. he wouldn't sit down because he knows he's a liar. it's going to haunt him, but maybe less than sitting down and exposing himself to a violation of law, which would then dog him on top of it. jim, asha, you're great for being here on a friday night. thank you for making us better. have a great weekend. all right. let's take a step back. i believe in this big picture analysis, because that's what it's about. i can't say that this is going to wind up in a single trial or...

Interview and he didn't know he needed a lawyer and, you know, all of this nonsense. you know, this is somebody who was appointed to be the national security adviser. >> right, savvy guy. >> somebody who is supposed to see every threat far and wide, you know, to the united states, and he can't know -- he doesn't know to tell the truth to the fbi. i mean, my 9-year-old had a visit from officer friendly to her class and knows she doesn't lie to the police. this is not rocket science. and i think it is more that he thinks this is an absurd claim to be made. >> but it's interesting about the dispo...