Neutralized, they have definitely blocked off the mall area and are helping people get out of the mall and out of the parking lot after they have spoken with them. that southbound ramp has been reopened. and it does look like there might be some movement in the parking lot now. it does. a few minutes ago it looked like they weren t allowing cars to leave the clackamas town center. and now it appear there s is at least some movement. can t guarantee they are letting people move, but it looks like cars are moving towards the exit. jocelyn le is on the phone right now. jocelyn, thank you for joining us. were you also at clackamas town center today during this shooting? yes. i was at the lancome makeup counter. and i was being helped by one of the sales associates. and the first shot, you know, your head kind of goes wow. and i thought something very loud crack. and then the second one, i knew immediately it was gunfire, one
After another. and the sales associate grabbed me and we both crouched down by his workstation, and then just the gunfire one after another. and i just started praying that the lord would just protect us. and you know, you have this moment where you re thinking, okay, is he going to keep coming? and anyway, i don t know what made the sales associate stand up, but he says okay, we got to get out of here. and i m just calling to let you know that there are heroes out there. he is a young man. he works for lancome company. and he got me weaved me in and out of the cosmetics counters, down the escalator, and he said okay, i want you to head out this door. he said there you ll be safe. just keep going. but i m going to go back upstairs and help other people. oh, my gosh. and i just thought that was amazing. he is a young kid. and i just can t wait to go back and just thank him. because i just felt like he knew what he was doing. there is great kids out there. jocelyn, what a tribute to him.
Let me see her grow up. and you will, jocelyn. we re so glad that you re safe, and our thoughts remain with the other people there who have been injured and possibly we hear one or two have been killed by this gunman. so jocelyn, thank you so much for sharing your story. and it s wonderful to hear about all the people that were willing and so brave to help people get out of there. very brave young man that. takes a lot of nerve to be able to do that. i can t wait to go thank him. well, thank you, jocelyn. all right. all right. have a good evening. let s check in with darrin now up in sky 8 to kind of set the scene for us. what are you seeing? well, tracy, the scene seems to be pretty much stagnant. there is not a whole lot new to report since last time i spoke with you guys. i do still see police vehicles from both north and south coming to the scene with lights on along 205. so they re still as far as that end of it goes, they re still
And thank you for telling us that story. i just want to make it clear, were you in the macy s at the lancome counter there? yeah, right there at macy s. i don t know exactly where the gunfire was, but it sounded like it was right there at the entrance of macy s. i think it was. i think you were really close. it was on the top floor of macy s right near the food court there. but i think you were pretty close. and then we re told that the gunman did run into, or at least toward the macy s after his assault rifle jammed. jocelyn, is that i m not really sure where the lancome counter is. is that on the second floor? it s on the upper floor. and it s like one section away from the main entrance of the mall there. so it s i mean, the gunfire was so loud, you knew it was just very, very close. it s a blessing. today s my granddaughter s first birthday. and i was just praying, lord,