CSPAN3 July 8, 2012
paul on more things than he disagrees with him on. >> you talked about how ideas require repudiation of false conservatism. and buckley's ideas led to them throwing out john burch. you mentioned that. john burch society and the ian rands objectivists. but today, a lot of the burcheresque movement in terms of immigration, and the -- and a lot of ian rands have become mainstream. how does that occur? >> there was an argument about ideas which is one thing. what buckley was trying to do, remember, is construct a saleable package. that's different. that's changed in a lot of ways. i refe...