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Leaks and the president calling his own staff traitors for leaking and part of the concerns about leaking is what's going on with the pence operation and what might they be leaking? >> the irony of donald trump calling people cowards and traitors for leaking is pretty strong. this is a guy who's been talking to the press for the last 30 years, sometimes under his own name, sometimes john baron or what have you. it appears from the reporting, everyone in trump world leaks. at some level i think the pence operation has been a little more tightly held and there are a bunch of pence people marbled...

Elevator with them. i don't think it's happenstance by any stretch of the imagination. >> john heil man, once again the guy beside you has expanded the dimensions of what we are aware of -- i was going to say what we know, but i'm not sure what we know as a result of the images. michael avenatti's promises in the past that there is more to come have generally proven to be the case. >> let me tell you about the story, it's going to take us into the weeds a little bit here, but it's interesting, i think. you may have red in the last couple weeks about a lawsuit that was filed by -- the lawsuit t...

Question, michael avenatti the attorney for stormy daniels. also with us john heilman, national affairs analyst for nbc and msnbc, and joyce vance is with us, former federal prosecutor, a professor at the university of alabama school of law and an msnbc contributor. michael avenatti so do you have the answer to your question about what michael cohen was up to there in the lobby of trump tower? >> we have the answer, lawrence, but we're not going to disclose it tonight. let me say this, i tweeted this out moments ago. i think when the truth relating to this meeting comes out shortly, it's going...

Between the league, those two guys, and the qataris, it's in the source of this lawsuit that the statements have been made -- someone who i have made since high school -- >> the world is not that small. the guy i was reading about in this lawsuit today you went to high school with? >> no. someone i knew in high school. i went to western university, who i lived with for two years at harvard, and continues to be someone i know extraordinarily well. he declares in the lawsuit that the reason that the qataris invested in big three is because jeff was a good friend of steve bannon and the qatari's ...

Is the answer to his own question, michael avenatti the attorney for stormy daniels. also with us john heilman, national affairs analyst for nbc and msnbc, and joyce vance is with us, former federal prosecutor, a professor at the university of alabama school of law and an msnbc contributor. michael avenatti so do you have the answer to your question about what michael cohen was up to there in the lobby of trump tower? >> we have the answer, lawrence, but we're not going to disclose it tonight. let me say this, i tweeted this out moments ago. i think when the truth relating to this meeting come...