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Published on: Sunday, December 13, 2020 Text Size: At the crash site of MH17. KESSELSCHLACHT is German for “pocket warfare”, whereby a rapidly advancing armed force into enemy territory would be carried by its forward momentum, as it were, so deeply into the latter’s terrain that they could be cut off, and trapped in what may be called a “cauldron”. Over time, the trapped soldiers would be “cooked” in the cauldron. In early July, 2014, that was what happened to the Ukrainian Armed forces that had penetrated deeply into the separatist militia held territory close to the Ukrainia...

Practiced norms for the presidency? >> so it's very hard to evaluate that without knowing exactly what facts to hold up against, you know, any of several possible criminal statutes. i will say i largely agree with john that -- about the basic problem here, which is this allegation, if it's true, is an una. unambiguously impeachable offense. it is a huge abuse of power domestically, that's spying or investigating mayor triciously a political opponent. and it seems to involve, you know, an allegation of essentially offering a bribe to or extorting from a foreign head of state. and so at sort two...

Vladimir putin from continuing his invasion west ward if you will dig up dirt on the guy i think i'm running against and now trailing 14 points in every poll. now, would that be a bribe or would that be extortion? what would that be? what do we think? >> i think it would be -- >> treason. >> both. >> both. >> and using the resources of american taxpayers, money that has been put aside to further the national interests and our national security, using it for your own chief political purposes. so i think it's pretty impeachable. >> and to john's point. >> pretty impeachable. >> he has approached...

Gate. are you on john's side or are you kind of leaning more where i am? >> i heard what you said in the previous hour and i am on your side. this is -- >> it really almost made you miss saturday night politics, didn't it? got the call -- >> you know what the problem was? he never did the show. >> by waithe way, there's reallo problem. >> now you can feel like you're a part of it. >> wonderful. but to -- [ laughter ] >> but to answer your -- >> how was that? >> contemptuous. like you handed him a kleenex. >> the floor is yours. >> donny, i agree with you, i don't go to far as to say democrats ...

Within five seconds, making up stories about joe biden, a wild performance by rudy giuliani last night that we're going to show in a second. >> fought for him to be secretary of state. >> we're going to show it right now. it's friday, september 20th. so -- >> maybe people have -- >> as you can hear we have john helman here, national affairs analyst. >> elise jordan. nbc host emeritus and may not be appreciated enough in his life, donny. >> wait, who's emeritus? >> i don't know. donny writes these things. >> you have my -- >> oh, thanks, sweetie. >> this crazy ground swell in -- >> oh, thank yo...