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laws against medications that be given to the intractably ill and he campaigned about that for many years so this is not -- you know, this is not something he would have been ashamed at on a policy level. but, you know, look, in the whole man, it's a small matter but it is an aspect of him. and it was -- it was an aspect of, i'm living my life and i've got a zillion things to do and how do i do it and one way i do it is with the help of priscilla and all my coworkers. another way i do it with the help of francis bronson and another way i do it with my discipline and another way i do ...

up to. and i think the story here really that she's going to tell is that unlike the promise of change and maybe some reform in washington, government is up to the same old tricks and you're not going to like what you hear when you hear about what's happening in the halls of government. >> another book coming out this fall by denese de souza, life after death, the evidence. >> that's another great book this h-his last book is what's so great about christianity? and this was a book that was a counter-argument to all the anti-god books that had come out a couple of years ago, dawkins a...

-- it is true that these other countries, they do not have full satisfaction from everyone in the country. a lot of other countries have been moving in a more market- friendly direction. countries that already have the government-run systems. as for the v.a., my impression is that the quality varies from place to place and some people are extremely happy with it. one of the places it seems -- one of the things it seems to do extremely well is integrate care, and that i think is a function of the fact that the fiber market -- that the private market does not do the great job of that. ...

pñ3ñlñkñsñdñ a few exceptions, you know, by and large, dr. howard's efforts in mississippi are simply not part of the commonly understood narrative of civil rights. and yet he was very much at the center of a movement before the movement that we remember. how would you explain howard's invisibility given his importance? >> i can try to take a crack at that. he was a renaissance man. so howard -- howard had excelled as a civil rights leader but then he moved on to other things. he was a man would get bored and try something new. and there was an article in "ebony" magazine in 19...

we are at the meeting of the organization of american historians in seattle. in >> afterwards and several other c-span programs are available for download at podcasts. more with bethany moreton and nancy maclean in a moment. after words with bethany moreton and nancy maclean continues. >> host: welcome back to booktv after words, i am a nancy maclean, historian of the 20th-century united states at northwestern university and the author of a book called "freedom is not enough: the opening of the american workplace". which looks of the struggles for equality in the workplace by various...