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0 more grist to the mill. >> i guess because it's not a shock is why it was a big story. so many agencies, every agency has an agenda. every agency has got to collect data. we've got to understand it's about security, but every one, the more information they get, the more power thet get. >> gasparino, why does that become the litmus test? lawmakers defined by how many laws they come up with. why is your definition of worth defined by, you know, how much stuff you collect? >> we should point out that this is a largely useless agency. newly created coming out of daud/frank. there's really no nee...

Part-time work and less flexible in the workplace. obamacare, we talk abbottabad negotiating the specific benefits for women. what about the cost to their pocketbook at home. to the economy at large. and the freedom. none of this is discussed in terms of how this hurts women and their families. >> david: john, again, the best the president has offered, to help the people are the government programs. the stimulus programs. most of the stimulus programs some were tax deductions, but most of it was spending. taking money directly out of the private sector, because that's where the government mone...

Economy. we are better off with a vibrant economy. it makes for vibrant defense. >> david: even john tandy can agree with the debt part of that issue, right? >> i don't know there. if china and russia sell our debt they hurt china and russia more than the united states. i am with steve. i'd rather have debt than balanced budget with $4 trillion. i never understood the g.o.p. worship of that. last word for libertarian. thank you, folks. up next, now the nsa is getting naughty! new report saying some agent workers are spying on their lovers. what happened to only watching terrorists? is this pro...

0 rich karlgaard. john candy. is this putting us in danger? >> it is. it's difficult to follow the powell doctrine, you remember colin powell. he said we ought to have the resources to fight two wars at same time in different parts of the world. we can't do that today. we should invest 6% of the gdp in the defense. as we did in the reagan years. we have can't afford to do that because we're so far behind the curve on the debt issue. >> is it a security risk? >> i'll disagree with rich. we spend more than top ten behind us combined on defense. if there is a national security issue, we defend th...

steve, first, is this the solution everybody's been looking for? >> absolutely. getting free markets in health care is the only way to go, doing away with the disconnect between providers and consumers we don't have free markets today. if we did, you'd get productivity, turn very expensive procedures today into more common place things tomorrow. so this is it a good start. it can start with simple routine things an go right up to the most sophisticated surgery. when patients are in charge, it's their money, by golly you get real bargains, including lasik surgery costs less today than...