on your w-2 that could protect your refund. and the one mistake made by so many people. and on the eve of the super bowl, why tom brady suddenly cut an interview short. what was said beforehand? good evening, and it s great to have you with us to start another week here. and we begin tonight with the sudden departure of fbi deputy director andrew mccabe, the number two man at the fbi, and a frequent target of the president s criticism. mccabe stepped in temporarily when fbi director james comey was fired, defending the scope of the fbi s russia investigation. and defending james comey, saying the rank and file had not lost confidence in him. tonight, the white house answering questions, did the president pressure the justice department in any way to push mccabe out? abc s senior justice correspondent pierre thomas leading us off. reporter: tonight, the number two at the fbi stepping down, following months of blistering attacks from president trump. vote for? mccabe s answer? i did not vote. did you ask mccabe who he voted for? did you ask him that? i don t think so. you don t think you did? no, i don t think i did. you did not? i don t know what s the big deal with that. reporter: the news of mccabe s departure comes a week after we learned sessions was putting pressure on christopher wray, the current fbi director, to fire mccabe. something wray refused to do. and days after reports that president trump wanted to fire special counsel robert mueller last june. the white house was pressed today is the president applying pressure on his attorney general and on the justice department to get rid of certain people? the only thing that the president has applied pressure to is to make sure we get this resolved so that you guys and everyone else can focus on the things that americans actually care about. so, let s get to pierre thomas, live outside the fbi tonight. and pierre, you have new reporting about why mccabe stepped down today, rather than waiting until march, when he said he was leaving? reporter: david, sources are telling us tonight, mccabe was getting indications that an upcoming inspector general report dealing with both the hillary clinton probe and russia was likely going to be rough on him. he decided to leave early so as not to be a distraction. david? all right, pierre thomas leading us off on this. pierre, thank you. we do have one more question on this tonight, so, let s bring in our senior white house correspondent cecilia vega, she s live over at the white house. cecilia, i know you pressed white house press secretary sarah sanders on whether president trump had anything to do with andrew mccabe s departure, and here s what she said today. reporter: can you say definitively that the president did not play a role in andrew mccabe stepping down? yes, i can say that the president wasn t part of this decision-making process and we would refer you to the fbi, where christopher wray serves as the director. the president has full confidence in him and has put the decisions at the fbi in his hands. so, cecilia, we heard that there, a denial from sarah sanders, but this white house is really facing questions whether the president is trying to influence the justice department. reporter: david, you remember, president trump fired fbi director james comey, sources tell us, he moved to fire special counsel robert mueller, and now andrew mccabe is out. the white house may be denying that the president played a role in andrew mccabe s ouster today, but president trump made it very clear he wanted him gone. david, the big question facing this administration right now, in the midst of this russia investigation, is president trump pressuring his top law enforcement officials out of the job, and david, does this amount to obstruction? cecilia vega with us at the white house tonight. cecilia, thank you. and as you know, cecilia and the whole team will be here, because president trump will deliver his first state of the union address. it is expected to focus on the economy, new jobs, trade among other things. and abc news and our entire powerhouse political team will cover it live. 9:00 p.m. eastern, right here tomorrow night. in the meantime, we continue with the news this monday night, and to the deadly flu epidemic. the cdc now confirming it is the worst in nearly a decade. 39 states now reporting high flu activity. you can see them all lit up in red. 37 children dying from the flu. that s nearly double the number from this time last year. but baby boomers are being hit especially hard, as well. and tonight, the new cases here. one pregnant woman losing her baby. and a mother who cared for her husband and her children who had the flu, dying of the flu herself. she did not have the flu shot, the rest of her family did. here s abc s eva pilgrim. reporter: tonight, the flu epidemic pushing hospitals to their limit. at grady hospital in atlanta, a team is setting up the country s first mobile emergency unit to handle what doctors say is a historic demand for care. i ve been working at grady now for almost 15 years, i ve not seen it this bad in those 15 years. reporter: already this season, 37 children have died from flu, compared to 21 at this time last year. and tonight, more families are sharing their stories to help others. maria paniagua s friend says maria was seven months pregnant when she got the flu, then pneumonia. she says they put her in a coma to try to save her life, but could not save the baby. be careful with that, because if you re pregnant, you ll go in the hospital. you or your baby survive and maybe neither one survive, both can die. reporter: karlie slaven was a busy mother and did not get the flu shot herself. she got the flu and died after caring for her husband and two kids. her father is encouraging others to get the vaccine. we re doing this for her. they d all had their shots and they got over everything pretty well. reporter: as more than a million people descend on minneapolis this week for the big game, doctors concerned the super bowl crowd will bring an uptick of the flu. there will be people congregating in really large numbers and in really close proximity to each other. that s exactly how influenza is passed on. reporter: organizers wiping down hands-on exhibits and equipment. parents doing their part, too. and eva pilgrim reporting in from minneapolis tonight, where the festivities are already under way. and eva, i know organizers are trying to get the word out to people who are going to be visiting there this week, because of the close proximity they re going to be in, right behind you. reporter: that s right, david. the cold, dry air here in minneapolis, the perfect conditions to spread the flu. organizers are encouraging fans, get your flu shot before you come. david? eva pilgrim with us tonight. eva, thank you. next tonight, newly released body cam video causing outrage at this hour. cleveland police calling the city s ems to help a man who had been shot 16 times. but cleveland s ems reportedly refusing to come because they said the man ended up a few blocks over the border into the next town. tonight, that call is under investigation, and here s abc s alex perez. reporter: tonight, ems officials in cleveland under fire after this disturbing video. police discovering a man shot 16 times. the officers call for an ambulance. you guys got ems coming? reporter: the victim was in his girlfriend s cleveland driveway when he was shot. he then managed to drive about a mile away, ending up in neighboring euclid. please, i feel lightheaded. you re okay. reporter: euclid ems was some distance away, so, cleveland police call their city s ems dispatch. but they refuse to send an ambulance because they were just outside city limits. they won t come because it s in your city. even though it s our victim, they won t come. just take him to euclid general. what are we waiting for? reporter: frustrated, the officers act. charlie 22, notify euclid we re coming in with a male with a gunshot wound. it s taking too long for ems to get here. reporter: arriving at the hospital roughly three minutes later. our station, wews, obtaining cleveland ems policy, saying if an ambulance is available, dispatch will send one if the response time is 15 minutes or less. why exactly dispatch refused to send an ambulance remains unclear. an investigation is now under way. the victim did survive. david? alex perez with us. alex, thanks. we re also tracking two storm systems tonight on the move at this hour, making for a difficult commute in some places. and the return of winter for much of the country. a clipper system with heavy snow in michigan tonight, moving across the great lakes, then the northeast. and a coastal storm targeting new england. so, let s get right to chief meteorologist ginger zee, of course, she is tracking it all for us tonight. hey, ginger. reporter: hey, david. winter weather advisories are in place. it is snowing now, so, from dansville, new york, all the way down to gatlinburg, tennessee, you can see on the southern end, just a coating. but the northern, up to eight inches of snow with that clipper. the coastal part of the storm will take the tides, especially tomorrow morning, and make them rise. and then you could see two to five inches, especially eastern massachusetts. a little bit of rhode island there. and behind it, i can promise you that everyone is impacted. look at tallahassee, the wind chill tomorrow morning, 32. it feels like freezing in charleston. and it only gets colder. settles in wednesday morning. philadelphia, you ll feel like 14. minus 11 in caribou. poor caribou. all right, ginger, thank you. in other news this monday night, there are growing questions after a 7-year-old boy was handcuffed at a miami elementary school. the boy accused of hitting a teacher, taken away in cuffs. some asking, despite that alleged behavior, did authorities go too far? abc s victor oquendo from miami tonight. reporter: tonight, police standing by the officer in this video, seen escorting a 7-year-old boy in handcuffs after he allegedly attacked one of his teachers in his miami school. the boy s mother can be heard saying, nothing is going to happen, my love , as she records on her phone. tonight, the miami-dade school police says, the officer acted within the scope of her duties and in accordance with departmental protocols. but the boy s family says those handcuffs went too far. do you think it was over the top? too much. being handcuffed is something that is shocking. imagine my little boy. reporter: according to the police incident report, on thursday, after the 7-year-old was told not to play with his food, he allegedly attacked the teacher by repeatedly punching her on her back. later, grabbing her hair and pulling it towards him. after, the boy was cuffed and transported to a hospital for an evaluation before being released. david, his father says a similar incident happened with their son last year, and he started speaking with a physician. tonight, he says he simply cannot understand how a 7-year-old ended up in handcuffs. david? victor oquendo with us tonight. victor, thank you. we turn next here to news coming in from the pentagon, after reporting that fitness apps are compromising u.s. security. the apps track athletic activity using gps, and do they reveal where u.s. forces are around the world? some of the apps do share that data on publicly available maps. are they inadvertently releasing classified or sensitive locations? tonight, defense secretary jim mattis now ordering a review. and here s abc s clayton sandell. reporter: it s the workout app that tonight has the u.s. military exercising better privacy. the app, called strava, connects with wearable fitness devices like these. it tracks users, including some u.s. troops, wherever they go. afghanistan, iraq and more. now, years of data published in this online map is becoming a security headache for the pentagon. the real problem here is that these devices have revealed u.s. personnel, special operations or intelligence personnel, in countries that most people didn t know we are in. reporter: the map went online in november, but was publicized over the weekend by 20-year-old nathan ruser. it shows you which buildings the military personnel prefer. it can show you how military personnel like to get from one part of the base to another, and even where they take their afternoon jogs, which is something very valuable, if you are looking to target the base. reporter: the military insists that troops were not compromised, but is now reminding fitness junkies worldwide to change their settings to private. and tonight, that app maker, strava, says they are committed to working with government and military officials to try and address some of those sensitive areas. david? clayton sandell with us tonight. clayton, thank you. and overseas tonight, paris finally expecting some relief from those damaging floods. the seine peaking at 13 feet above normal, after forcing 1,500 people to evacuate parts of the city. the lower level of the louvre museum was closed, as well, threatened by the flooding there. and there is still much more ahead on world news tonight this monday. police shooting a driver, allegedly trying to run people down on the street. the off-duty officer opening fire, killing the driver. and the good samaritan trying to block the suspect s car. the alleged package thief, look at this. injured making her getaway in a suburban neighborhood. she falls. and that s coming up. and your money tonight, fin final filing your taxes begins today, unbelievable, it s here already. and the simple code, the new code you want to pay attention to on your w-2. it could protect your money. a lot more news ahead. prolia® to help make our bones stronger. ctors we e only prolia® helps strengthen bones by stopping cells that damage them with 1 shot every 6 months. do not take prolia® if you have low blood calcium, are pregnant, are allergic to it, or take xgeva®. serious allergic reactions, like low blood pressure; trouble breathing; throat tightness; face, lip or tongue swelling, rash, itching or hives have happened. tell your doctor about dental problems, as severe jaw bone problems may happen or new or unusual pain in your hip, groin, or thigh, as unusual thigh bone fractures have occurred. speak to your doctor before stopping prolia®, as spine and other bone fractures have occurred. prolia® can cause serious side effects, like low blood calcium; serious infections, which could need hospitalization; skin problems; and severe bone, joint, or muscle pain. if your bones aren t getting stronger isn t it time for a new direction? 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and mary, senate republican leader mcconnell promising democrats they will tackle the dreamer issue. more than 800,000 young, undocumented immigrants brought here by their parents. but tonight, house speaker paul ryan making no such pledge with that march deadline approaching? reporter: and david, that s why the pressure is on to act. if no deal is reached by march 5th, those dreamers could face deportation. it s also why this is such a political gamble for democrats. they took a stand here, shutting down the government over dreamers, and it is unclear if they re ultimately going to get what they want. we re told schumer s message tonight to disappointed democrats you have to play the hand you re dealt. it is what it is. david? mary bruce leading us off again tonight. mary, thank you. we do have one more question on this, so, let s get right to our chief white house correspondent jonathan karl with us live tonight. jon, so much attention was paid to that meeting between president trump and democrat chuck schumer. schumer emerged, saying that they had made some progress. but then, a shutdown and no deal on the dreamers. yeah, no question about that. jon karl with new reporting on that meeting with the president a short time ago. jon, thank you. in the meantime, we do move on now, to that other major winter storm on the move tonight. alerts up from minnesota all the way to the northeast, we re following this, as well. blizzard conditions in the heartland, cars stuck in deep snow in sioux city, iowa. look at those images. and then tornadoes in the south. an ef-2. winds more than 111 miles an hour in texas. and blinding rain could now be on the way for washington, d.c., philly, new york and boston. abc s adrienne bankert tonight in the storm zone. reporter: not going anywhere. tonight, major interstates shut down as a blizzard strikes the heartland. blizzard warnings are out to the south and southeast. reporter: some 70 miles of i-29 closed at the iowa/south dakota border. people are underestimating how slippery it actually is. reporter: a dash cam captures this spinout in sioux falls. whoa! reporter: and in nebraska road conditions are extremely hazardous. we are advising that you do not
go out in these conditions. reporter: drivers carefully navigate past jackknifed semis in lincoln. visibility so low, in some parts of the state, officials even pulled plows off the road. in minnesota, crews like this one take on the backbreaking task of shoveling snow off of sidewalks city-wide. how do you prepare to do this kind of work all day long? mental toughness. reporter: further south in texas, high winds fueled this grass fire in parker county. nearby schools evacuated. this after multiple tornadoes in the south overnight, including an ef-2, winds above 110 miles an hour in bowie county. david, we can make out the tails of those planes, but we can barely see the runway. officials here at minneapolis airport have actually closed that runway a number of times today. more than 500 flights canceled. the same story across much of the midwest. david? all right, what a scene there. adrienne, thank you. that storm barrelling east. let s get right to chief meteorologist ginger zee tonight. she s tracking it all for us. ginger? reporter: david, we ve
already seen a foot of snow in minnesota. 30 to 50-mile-per-hour gusts. so, certainly blizzard conditions possible from sioux city, iowa, right through minnesota. but this storm, this low, has a cold front and a warm component, too, so, by the noon hour, if you re in philadelphia, new york city, long island, connecticut, you re going to see thunderstorms and even the potential for flooding. behind it, relatively cool air, certainly some lake effect snow, but watch those rivers. as the warmth sticks around and that rain falls, ice jams could be a problem, too. david? all right, watching it all for us. ginger, thank you. we re going to turn next here tonight to that massive explosion in oklahoma, an oil well. several workers do remain missing at this hour. the explosion sparking a number of fires. the tower of that well collapsing to the ground. and firefighters have been unable to turn off the gas. abc s marcus moore is on the scene for us tonight. reporter: tonight, the desperate search for five employees who worked in this oklahoma oil and natural gas well, now charred and crumpled after a massive blast. we have an oil rig explosion, advising we need to use a tanker. reporter: volunteer firefighters rushing to the scene around 8:45 this morning. there were 17 employees, i believe, that we got out. there s still five that are unaccounted for at the well. with all this petroleum that s burning, first responders and ems are staying back. reporter: firefighters searching surrounding areas for the missing five. residents nearby asked to shelter in place. one worker flown to a hospital for burns. everyone else who escaped was unhurt and taken to a safe area to be reunited with family. they re all pretty shook up from what i ve seen, i mean, which is expected. it s a pretty traumatic deal to go through. reporter: an ordeal that is not yet over. those intense flames still keeping firefighters from getting within 100 feet of the source of that fire. the fire leaving workers unable tonight to use the rig s blowout preventer to shut off the gas. they have extinguished the secondary fires. the primary fire on the well head is still burning. reporter: david, officials
here in oklahoma have been keeping us quite a distance away from the scene where all of this was unfolding. it s right up this dirt road just behind me here. and they had quite a fight on their hands. officials were essentially letting the fire burn itself out in the well. they weren t putting water on those flames because they didn t want to spread any chemicals that may be at the site. and they warned that it could take some time for them to completely extinguish the flames, only hampering their investigation into what caused this. david? marcus moore with us tonight. marcus, thank you. we turn next here this evening to a shooting inside a texas high school cafeteria. police say a 16-year-old opening fire with a semiautomatic handgun, wounding a 15-year-old girl. the teen gunman fleeing when confronted by a school employee. later arrested as the school went into lockdown. authorities have not confirmed a motive. and the victim s condition is unknown tonight. officials say the school held an active shooter drill earlier this year that they say did help with this response. we turn next here to striking new video of those siblings held captive in their own home by their own parents. a surveillance camera showing the moment those siblings were
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a near-perfect gpa. the children still being treated after those many years of near total isolation. much of what you are doing now is sort of teaching them social behavior. we are the first stage of their introduction to the outside world. reporter: matt gutman, abc news, riverside, california. matt, thank you. next, that former usa gymnastics team doctor confronted today by the youngest victim yet to speak out. 15-year-old emma ann miller. and tonight, she claims that her mother is still getting bills for treatment from that doctor. here s abc s linsey davis now. reporter: a stunning allegation in court today from this 15-year-old. her mother by her side. i, too, was sexually assaulted by larry nassar. multiple times at multiple appointments. msu sports medicine charged me for those appointments. my mom is still getting billed for appointments where i was sexually assaulted. reporter: emma ann miller told the court she was treated by nassar just a week before michigan state university suspended him. i am possibly the last child he will ever assault. reporter: she blames the university for not doing enough to stop nassar, putting the school on notice. i m not afraid of you, nor will i ever be. at 15, i shouldn t know the inside of a courtroom. but i am going to become real comfortable in one, and so should you. reporter: the detroit news claims 14 msu representatives were made aware of nassar s abuse over two decades. msu has said any suggestion that the university covered up nassar s horrific conduct is simply false. as more victims share their stories of abuse, more fallout today at usa gymnastics, which has been criticized for failing to protect the gymnasts. three resignations from the board of directors. usa gymnastics responded, we support their decisions to resign at this time. when we asked michigan state about emily s claims that her mother was still getting billed, the university told us that nassar s former patients will
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one fan so excited, he ran right into a subway pole. the transit police chief saying that fan is okay tonight, saying, he jumped up and high-fived his buddies and caught the next train. and tonight, catching a super bowl ticket might be even more difficult. the cheapest super bowl ticket we could find online? $4,500. a new record. which is why we ll all be watching from home. and someone joked today that subway pole was like the philly defense. thanks for watching here from washington tonight. i m david muir. i hope to see you back from new york tomorrow night. until then, have a good evening. good night. good night. . coming up on abc7 news, it
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seen it. he has uncanny ability to connect with their hopes and their desires. and like reagan, he reminds americans that what makes us special is our people. it s our freedom. it s not our government. and as for the so-called smart educated people who are now criticizing trump, i have a few questions. was it smart to enact policies that ended up enriching the repressive regime in china at the expense of american workers, american companies and american security? and was it smart to leave our borders open like swiss cheese allowing illegals to stream into the united states, taking american jobs, sad ling taxpayers with the cost of educating them, housing them, providing them with healthcare? was it smart to get into some wars that ended up draining our country of trillions of dollars, took the lives of so many of our finest men and women? was it smart to explode our foreign population not through a smart merit based immigration system but through the ludicrous policy polling and focus groups and discussions of how to say things that would make you popular against enormous odds by taking on the two-party duopoly the elites of both parties who have, let s face it, run the country into the ground. is he a genius. laura: maybe he doesn t pull over the latest biography or have plato s book on his table big deal. he had great school. he never pretended to be a great academic. not many people are. what did he do? he exposed and named the pretenders, those elites in politics, media and business who helped drive america in to a ditch no matter how badly their policies and ideas failed the people. those fraudsters are almost never held accountable. tired of seeing america lose, trump revealed their agendas, he named them, and he made us see them to be the fraud that they are. and by the way, they have been vengeful ever since furious? what s the point of being smart if you never learn. trump somebody someone needed to step up to be the voice of forgotten men and women. he beat all those campaigners with their focus group talking points and slick ad campaigns. it s smart to put americans and their interests first. donald trump is still out there listening to the people who count, you. i was in new york at a big event recently, and i take a lot of pictures with police and with firemen and with the military and one of the policemen came up, an officer and he said sir, i want to thank you, my 401(k) is through the roof. my wife thinks i m a brilliant investor. i have never seen anything like this. my wife is so happy. my family is so happy. laura: dumb? i don t think so. he is telling the stories that people want to hear. personalizing, sterile statistics, charts and graphs. real antidotes and though, you know, i have got to say thinking about dumb, i would feel pretty dumb if i had been one of those g.o.p. donors snickered into writing a million-dollar check into jeb bush s super pac. put down a payment on a house in georgetown because i was sure hillary clinton would win and i would be working in her administration there is a brilliance in trump s political strategy. perhaps its greatest instinct was a simple message that resonated most with his core supporters. build the wall that promise was sacrosanct and helped him get elected. the best thing trump can do is stick to his core campaign promises, especially that one. he is not going to fall, i don t think, for what the failed elites might be trying to sell him. they may have more political experience and a lot of them do, but he has better instincts than most of them and most americans will see that his thinking is exactly the type of unconventional thinking that at times is disruptive that we need right now. and that s the angle. joining me now for reaction is newt gingrich, former speaker of the house and a fox news contributor. newt, it s so good to have you back from rome. how are you? are you perpetually jet lagd? that s my question to you. no, no. it s fun. laura: let s talk about what they are trying to do, the usual suspect, you know all of them. you saw that tedious montage. trump is not smart. he is dumb. he doesn t read. et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. what s going on here? i mean the same people who have been passionately avoiding reality for three years are now entering a new year passionately avoiding reality. you know, there is a whole series of these things where i m working on a book right now called trump s america. there is a whole chapter of how wrong they are. whether it s somebody saying he couldn t possibly be elected, a number of people who said the stock market is going to crash the minute is he sworn. in you go back and you pick these people up. i have a standard rule. if i look at the sunday morning shows and all of the wonderful elite washington figures have agreeed that the sky is going to be blue. my assumption immediately is it s not because they are wrong so often. let s take a case of the current. there thought he made the putts and forgot that in fact it was helpful to have tiger woods. laura: as long as he didn t drive the car in alaska. the problem tiger had. if you think about it bannon thought that he had the skills that trump has. laura: he might run for president. reports that he could be running for president. he will get 3%. and be part of the continuation. i think actually this experience probably eliminates most of his support financially. laura: john cornyn senator for texas said the falling out for bannon may be a good thing for the republican party. what i m worried is the ricochet thing. bannon is a conservative populist. i agree with him on almost every issue. is he smart. is he a student of history. your honor what s behind these quotes. i m not going to get into that i don t want trump to take the bannon problem and take the lesson from that being i m not going to do these issues that, you know that we agreed on together. i think they are they were good together. i m not saying bannon was trump. trump, trump. they were good together. first of all i think steve miller. laura: i m trying to mend fences for people. good luck. laura: well, what can i do? i m trying. first of all, steven miller is the heart of. laura: love him. right. and he has all of bannon s upside and none of his downside. laura: quiet. he is there doing his job every single day. i have think he probably channels trump better than anybody in the country. second, i actually have this is like reagan. i remember as early as the summer of 82 conservatives going to lunch and heritage going oh my god reagan is selling us out. i have enormous faith reagan is reagan and trump is trump. he believes in this stuff. he believes in deregulation and cutting taxes. i don t worry about bannon leaving as long as trump stays. laura: sessions a couple congressman, meadows and jordan says sessions should probably step aside. might be time for him to step aside. what do you think about that? i think the attorney general sessions ought to have a very serious review of what he is doing. he has a department that has enormous problems. he can t recuse himself from all those problems and he ought to be if he were still in the senate, he would be really angry at him as attorney general. and i like jeff a lot. and. laura: me too. i hope he will decide that he is going to clean house and get the job done. laura: they are opening up a couple new investigations. we will see. newt gingrich love having you on. give my best to your do you call her ambassador or ambassadorress. she prefers you call her calista. laura: tell her i said hi. the sudden feud between bannon and the president we just talked about took another surprising turn today. we will talk to someone who has not spoken out on this issue in an exclusive. stay right here. you do not want to miss it. if he d taken tylenol, he d be stopping for more pills right now. only aleve has the strength to stop tough pain for up to 12 hours with just one pill. 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during the presidential campaign, new york times best selling co-author of let trump be trump congratulations to dave bossie. great to see you. how are you doing, man. i m great. thank you for having me. laura: you are not in the white house. i am happy that our book is doing well. laura: so happy for you. let s talk about what s going on here the left is treating this like manna from heaven. book is now out tomorrow. they have set up the publication. this is like a pr this is a pr dream for every writer. the white house book shouldn t come out. threatening to sue. what s happened? this book seems to be national enquirer on steroids. laura: none of it is true. it s sensational journalism. it s not journalism. i m concerned about what is true and what isn t true. this author has a history of taking liberties with things. i m deeply concerned about what my friend steve bannon has said to this person. laura: he wasn t even at the campaign when this meeting took place. and the thing that meeting unpatriotic, fairly standard meeting anybody who is involved in a campaign. laura: treasonous has legal prerequisite. don jr. is a very patriotic man. i have spent a lot of time with him. he is the furthest thing from that. i take great umbrage. laura: he has not denied the comments but he also today said that like nothing is going to come between the trump agenda and me or breitbart setting him aside though, why would the white house think it was a good idea to allow michael wolff to park himself in the west wing lobby many times so forth. waiting for interviews. and then basically he was given cart blanche to talk to top aides. i know that because they have told me that. they were told by one individual who was, i guess, speaking for the president, talked to x,y, z and all tiewx. he has tapes. laura: the president said he had tapes too. that just came to mind. wolf is somebody who did have access. laura: why think michael wolff is going to do anything to help the trump agenda or frankly be fair. he was never going to be. laura: i don t know why they did that? it s one of the biggest mistakes. now we are off the agenda. we are not talking about the successful tax reform. laura: we next segment. i hope so. the president just has the momentum coming out of his tax reform package and the great bill and the economy is steaming along and then we get. laura: steve bannon lost his mind. look steve has his own views. i did the whole ingraham angle about the smarts of donald trump how he outfoxed everyone. great political instincts. best political instincts i have ever seen. laura: don t keep the news cycle going on a topic that s not helping you. i get it you want to defend yourself, i understand that. i get that. he is the best counter puncher we have ever seen. laura: also don t punch down. you don t. but when this book, these people, the mainstream media want to use everything at their disposal, the other cable networks are just salivating over it. laura: they are just selling more books now. that s all they are doing. that s what the game is about. make no about it. it s to fill michael wolff s pockets. laura: i didn t speak to michael wolff. i didn t speak to him. you didn t see a quote from me there. i don t talk to those people. i didn t see the book yet. laura: i know i m not quoted. let s talk about the elite s criticism of donald trump as disengaged as uninformed as now they are making the argument that he could have neurological problems. these articles are actually not appearing just in left-wing web sites either. but it s a joke. the president is incredibly well-educated, well-read and very smart guy. you don t get to be president of the united states if you are not. laura: dave bossie, congratulations on the book. so proud of you. it was a page turner. i gave a couple copies for christmas by the way. i still got to get to you sign them. thanks so much. and,. they are the dreamers. this must be done now. there is an urgent need. obama couldn t do it. bush couldn t do it. i think you can do it. there is a deal to be had. you want it bad enough, we will get it. we need a physical border wall. we are going to have a wall, remember that. we are going to have a wall. laura: as can you here jousting continues over creating a daca compromise. the president is determined to have a border wall and real enforcement. to give you a sense of what s at stake in the high cost of illegal immigration let s go to don rosenberg in call bass is a, california. his son drew was killed in a 2010 car crash by an illegal immigrant. he entered the country illegally. he was from honduras and ultimately given legal status because of that hurricane. when he came in, he came in illegally. now you don t have your son. don, it s always good to see you. but my heart always breaks for you anew every time i do see you because i know when you start hearing republicans obsess over amnesty for 800,000 people brought here when they were young, it s got to just wear on you. well, laura, thanks for having me. it certainly does. it s hard to believe that americans are willing to sacrifice other americans both jobs, lives, in deference to people ha are in the country illegally. and certainly it s all the democrats and now got a lot of republicans coming on board, too. it s absolutely outrageous and the public shouldn t stand for it. laura: you know, when i speak with families who have been so brutally affected by the scourge of illegal immigration, they have repeatedly said from california to nevada to texas, no one even bothered to ask us questions before donald trump. they didn t talk to us. they didn t sit down with us. they didn t give us a hug. didn t hear from president obama. didn t hear from george w. bush. trump was it for them. finally they had a voice. well, yeah. you couldn t be more accurate than that. i can tell from you so many of the people that i m now friends with, because we have lost somebody, you know, back in the obama days we wrote to him. i wrote to him twice. i had the letter delivered by someone in jeh johnson s staff, never even a condolence response back. i have written to many senators and congressman, no response think just ignore us. same with the media. new york times, chicago tribune. any of the tribune publications. they will run story after story. heart breaking story that some illegal alien being deported and all they did was embezzling money and then somebody gets killed. you will find it nowhere in the paper. laura: i call those immigration sob stories. i do them regularly on the radio. every illegal immigrant is a valedictorian or has rescued a cat from a tree. there is never an illegal imin most of these news accounts that s ever so much as jay walked. okay. so your stories, you know, the robberies, you know, and so when donald trump originally made that point, you know, talked about rape and so forth, they didn t like the way he phrased it but what he was getting at is, you are not receiving the full story on this. i m going to tell the story of those men and women and their families who have been so horrifically affected because these politicians haven t done their job. and i got to say, republicans, democrats watching this, your solemn duty is to the american people. the american people. not to the people of other countries who came here illegally but to legal immigrants and to american citizens. donald trump understands that i don t think he is going to you know, sell out people on immigration. if he does, he is over anyway. he is going to be done. if he sells us out on immigration, donald trump will not be reelected president of the united states. i can tell you that right now. i am talking as someone who is a great supporter of his. the problem is that the public doesn t really know what s going on because they are not being told. kate stein solid killed and half the country thinks she is the first person ever killed by illegal i will alien and the other half of the country never heard of her. the reality is we are talking over 50,000 deaths sips the last immigration reform and now they want to do the same thing. laura: no, no, no. it can t be the promise of enforcement and immediate amnesty. it never works. it didn t work before and won t work now. by the way you don t want to miss this next segment. a little notice story that could turn into huge news. and what fox news can now confirm about the reopening of, you got it, the hillary clinton email investigation next. really passionate about- i really want to help. i was on my way out of this life. there are patients out there that don t have a lot of time. finally, it was like the sun rose again and i was going to start fighting back now. when those patients come to me and say, you saved my life.. my life was saved by a two week old targeted therapy drug. that s what really drives me to- to save lives. hillary clinton s use of a private email server as secretary of state. investigators are examining how classified material ended up on her unsecured server. how much was sent, who sent it, and which of the original federal investigators knew about all of this. fox can also confirm that the justice department is also investigating whether the clinton foundation engaged in any pay-to-play scheme while hillary was secretary of state. two big developments. let s discuss all of this with peter schweizer, who is author of the new york times best seller clinton cash who is in tallahassee, florida. here with me in studio is philip reince former deputy assistant secretary of state to hillary clinton. it s great to see both of you. philip, let s start with you. the justice department and the fbi are taking another look, no matter how you phrase it. it looks like they are investigating this anew. what s your take. first start with the email server. listening to that it s amazing that the department of justice has any time to do anything else. i would say two things. first, i think there s a problem with the department justice and the fbi looking at something over and over again because there are people who don t like the outcome. this has been investigated and concluded. but i will say, this rather than fight it. have at it. if they want to look at it, we have nothing to fear. people who ho are innocent don t fire the fbi director. the second thing i would add if they are going to do this, expand it. it s been 6 to 9 years. let s see what s happened since. let s see about email practice and the system. there are people now, we have jared and ivanka who were caught using private email last year in the white house. i haven t heard anything about that. let s put them on that, too. let s have rudy giuliani and the new york field office. let s take a look at that. laura: you are a really smart guy. thank you. laura: i bet you didn t send email mail to a yahoo account or did you? did you ever send emails to another account that included any confidential or classified information like huma abedin did? did you ever do that? not to personal account but it s funny you ask. this is an email that i sent that has been classified. it s been redacted so i m not holding anything. this is an email that i sent to the secretary who doesn t reply. i don t say anything. but take a look at where it comes from. this has one of the most senior members of the white house as part of the sending group. why aren t we looking at this? we should be. because this is a systemic problem. this is on the internet. this was foiaed by judicial watch. laura: so your view is that there was deletion of emails, none of that at the department of state, when she was there, none of that was in any way problematic? i mean comey thought it was problematic. she has said it was dumb. laura: comey originally said it was i think prejudging it. i think you say he watered it down. laura: let s go to peter schweizer who wrote a book. you heard what philip said about this, if you want to do it, broaden the investigation into general email practices and then we will talk about the clinton foundation. yeah, no. i mean i think that s a good idea. i think there is a fundamental difference. there s a difference when collin paul as secretary of state was using an aol account occasionally for correspondence and setting up your own private server. why do you sit up a private server? if you have the aol account you can delete it on your laptop. it s on a server back at aol. the reason you set up a server, i believe the reason the clintons did is precisely because of what they did. they deleted 33,000 emails and turned only 30,000 over to the state department. the state department concluded not all those were personal emails. they deleted business related as well. i appreciate the spirit in which he is saying broaden the investigation. i would agree with that i do think there is a fundamental difference between having a server and private email account and just having private email account. we don t know that jared and ivanka trump don t have a server in their apartment. i agree. i think they can afford it. laura: i m sure they would be happy to answer that question. let s move onto the clinton foundation. now it looks like that s going to be examined again. and we know for a fact that people who are donors to the clinton foundation did seek to get access to mrs. clinton and in some cases did get access to mrs. clinton. just the appearance of that, i mean, are you a lawyer? no i m not. laura: the mere appearance of that is not good. having people who work both for the foundation and their consulting to their state department at the same time while they are trying to shepard people through to meetings with mrs. clinton. setting aside politics and all of that. appearance issues plague all politicians. but that one opens up so many questions and always did. it was a tough situation. you had never had a former president with a significant foundation doing good around the world married to a secretary of state. laura: why does the whole thing dry up after she doesn t become president? why. i don t think that s true. a lot of accusations made against the clinton foundation including mr. schweizer in clinton cash have been proven wrong. his in fact, ironically, he sat on this set with chris wallace when he wrote the book and chris, i brought it because it s unbelievable, chris wrote that clinton took no direction action was involved in any way in proving nine agencies of the company. peter had to admit he overreached when secretary clinton vetoed it. it s a 9 person agency it s not her decision. laura: why would if you are involved in giving money to the clinton foundation that s great. that doesn t look good. why would millions of dollars. because when you. laura: be funneled to the clinton foundation when there were pending matters before the state department and important matters with the government? we can go through all of them. they are well-known. why would they do that? why? well, i think a couple things. first of all nothing was funneled. things were donated and made public. they made every penny public. laura: peter has to respond to what you just said about the book. go ahead what philippe had charged. it s not true with all due respect. $2.35 million donation from the chairman of uranium one as the deal was being approved was not disclosed by the clinton foundation. and the clinton foundation had to admit that even though you signed an agreement with president obama saying you were going to disclose every penny. and, you know, call me unfair but i don t know how you misplace a 2.35-million-dollar donation from the chairman of the uranium company has approval sale to russia is being approved at that very time. you wrote secretary clinton had veto power over the deal and you had to take that back. no i did not. read the book. you said the state department overreached. no, i did not. what i said in the book was that there were nine government agencies that approved the deal. if any of those agencies, including the state department don t agree with the deal, the deal gets halted and kicked up to the president for review. and by the way three go ahead. laura: the committee on foreign we can t relitigate that this is going to be going on for some time. i want to have you great back. great to have you on felipe. i botched your name three times. it happens all the time. laura: in a moment, we will tell you what the attorney general did today that could signal the beginning of the end? oh, for legal marijuana, that s wishful thinking. don t go away mom, i have to tell you something. dad, one second i was driving and then the next. they just didn t stop and then. i m really sorry. i wrecked the subaru. i wrecked it. you re ok. that s all that matters. 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they got a lot of tax money from the legalize marijuana? i was very sorry to hear about cory gardner taking that position. i think he has said even worse than that he said he is not going to support any personal that s been appointed by, you know, attorney general sessions in the next few months until this is all straightened out. i think he is actually, you know, making more of a big deal of this than he should. because ultimately, we re just going back to enforcing a law like it used to be enforced. laura: the current federal law. and the current federal law prohibits the use, distribution, you know, sale of marijuana. and he is making it almost like a states right issue when it s actually a public health issue. if you look at all of the various things that marijuana has been doing to his state, i m actually kind of surprised that he would be taking that position. i mean, we have seen a doubling in the number of people who have been killed in drug driving accidents. we have seen, you know, emergency rooms overwhelmed by people reporting that they are suffering from psychosis. we have seen skyrocketing youth use. we have seen pot shops being put in all the minority areas. laura: don, you are an advocate the legalized marijuana. billions of dollars are on the line. big celebrity money. big weed money. this is initiative that is being pushed and pushed and pushed i think without regard to public health. but, on the issue of state vs. federal authority here, it is currently federal law, as john said, to prohibit recreational use of marijuana, possession, or distribution. if you want to change the law, change the law. so demonizing jeff sessions as some of these people are doing today, these growers they want to make money off the destruction of our development of young brains and so forth i guess they can do that. but federal law right now until they change it? jeff sessions is doing what jeff sessions is supposed to do. he is the attorney general and he is supposed to prosecute these sort of things. is he supposed to say he is going to enforce federal law. that s what loretta lynch said in her confirmation hearings and that s what jeff sessions said in his. whether you want to talk about billions of dollars, public health, or anything else, i think this is a constitutional amendment. it s a 10th amendment issue. with respect to health issues, i think more and more people are finding that marijuana is less harmful than alcohol. and whether or not you want to debate that that s a whole different topic. i actually think that the states are capable of enforcing their own law. in what realm. laura: averting federal law right now. in what realm is federal law. laura: what other laws should be nilly nilly ignored. i think the states are capable of handling their own state laws and voters have passed these laws and the legislatures have passed these laws. i don t think the trump administration should get in the middle of this. this is not necessarily about billions of dollars. in my opinion it s about very sick people who by his own admission, the president has said he knows people who use marijuana. and he. laura: people like people who are starting on marijuana and moving to other drugs? 9% are addicted. 9% end up getting addicted. that s the american academy of pediatrician. start off with opioids and heroin because they get a prescription. vast majority of people who get addicted with opioids started off with pot. let s be clear. secondly let s make it clear. you are from the marijuana policy project. you get paid to be here. i m here smart approach to marijuana. we are trying to come up with a middle road. we north talking prohibition vs. legalization. we are talking about decriminalization and trying to deal with some of the problems that have been identified while also. can you look at him when he is talking. drug policy issues. some which are legitimate you guys raise. when it comes right down to it, there is a bad day for the marijuana policy project for one simple reason. most of the board has invested in the marijuana industry. all those people are trying to make a ton of money off of our kids. getting them addicted. i actually thought we would be here to talk about the issue and not personal attacks. that s not a personal attack. i m a little disappointed in that. laura: wrap it up. very sick people benefiting from this and i don t think the president should be laura: we have you back for sure. great debate. by the way, up next, something bizarre. you are not going to want to miss it. bomb cyclones, reptiles? 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[sigh] did grandpa win again? what do you think? yes! download the new words with friends 2 today. laura: before we go, the president reacting minutes ago to the latest revelations from michael wolfe s book. specifically what we talked about a few minutes ago. the idea that wolff had unfettered access to the president s staff trump tweetin tweeting: i authorized zero access to white house actually turned him down many times for author of phony book! i never spoke to him for book. full of lies, misrepresentations and sources that don t exist. look at this guy s past and watch what happens to him and sloppy steve! well, let me say, according to multiple reports and wolff himself, he sat on the west wing on that couch as people walked back and forth and was given access as has been reported by i
that s that this is a question of presidential leadership. at the end of the day, it will come down to the president of the united states being willing to lead in a big picture and in a more macro sense, make a decision what he can support and pull the trigger on it. here was lindsey graham in our conversation just a few minutes ago. what the house sent over is unacceptable to me. the cres can i the militar chs kill the military. i appreciate house colleagues but we need to get this done. we re inside the 10 yard line. we need a white house that can make a decision and stick to it. and andegreeia, lindsey graham has cultivated his relationship with the president and the attempted skill of talking to the president through the television. and i think there s a lot of message sending going on that look, the way out of this is for the president to live up to what he talks about as the tuesday version of the president from last week when he seemed to embrace willingness to deal with a bipartisan solution to dealing with this problem, not the thursday version of the meeting so infamous between graham and durbin and other republican senators and lawmakers one of whom lindsey graham kind of threw under the bus talking about tom cotton, his colleague from arkansas ho said has essentially turned into the steve king of the senate. steve king the ultimate immigration hard liner in the u.s. house, not exactly kind words there, but that s the opportunity for a deal here is one that gets led by the white house, not by the operators here on capitol hill. thanks to garrett and casey for that. chuck todd, we ve seen this movie before. we ve been through shutdown traumas for the nation. but we ve never seen it with donald trump in the oval office. that s the big differentiator. also we ve never seen it with a unified party controlling the house, senate and the white house. you don t usually have these kinds of disagreements. there s actually look, lindsey graham is right on this. not just that it needs presidential leadership, there s a real opportunity for this president. there s always been a chunk of supporters who voted for hip. they didn t like him personally, didn t like his but thought maybe his style will shake up this place. will sort of keep washington from being this constant and maybe having somebody who doesn t have any true ideology is the way to make the place work. so there s a part of donald trump who claims he likes to be the negotiator, the art of the deal guy and an opportunity to sort of separate himself from congress. remember, you know, one thing both parties, members of both parties agree, they don t like congress. so these shutdowns are usually opportunities for presidents to lead, to be the adult in the room, to bring everybody together. now, president trump when he s given the opportunity to be the adult in the room usually chooses not to be the adult in the room. so that s the wildcard today. but i think the only way this gets averted today is if somehow the white house actually tries to play a meaningful and a slightly above it all role here a little bit and try to find some and try to find a way to give the democrats an off-ramp here a little bit. but i ll tell you, i still think we re headed to at least a mini shutdown. right now both parties, i ll say this both mcconnell and schumer just specifically but then larger both the democrats and republicans think they can win this argument. republicans believe they can win the argument certainly in the short term, hey, what s another 30 days? we just want to buy more time. democrats think they can win the argument in the long-term. enough is enough. how often are we going to keep kicking the can. when you have two parties both are convinced they can win an argument, then you re not going to have enthusiastic ways to find an off-ramp. one quick question. when you talk about presidential leadership, we saw what happened yesterday when he tweeted incorrectly about the chip, the child s health care program and had to be corrected on twitter by republican senator leadership member john cornyn. so if he s engaged, he has to have the facts. it s not just him deciding what he can live with. he has to know what s in the deal. there s no doubt i may be what i m describing of what this president has an opportunity to do may be fantasy here. this would be maybe it is aaron sorkin s version of what a president could do in a situation like this. i m telling you what the opportunity is there. obviously his past performance says something else. but there truly is an opportunity here and frankly the only way i think a shutdown is averted today is if the white house attempts to play a meaningful negotiating role. you know, what i don t get is, where is the urgency? and by the way, i think the house i want to believe in some green shoots that somehow the house deciding to stay in means there s something happening. it would have been political malpractice if the house went home without a deal. if they went home before knowing what the senate would do, that that would be malpractice and look like they wanted the shutdown. i think for optics sake, the house has to stick around this week. the government shuts down, no member of congress can leave town, period. and certainly no president go to mar-a-lago. you guys hang on a second. we ve got one of the big players on the hill, democratic senator chris coons who opposes the republican short term government funding bill and jones me now. what do you think is happening behind the scenes? is chuck schumer trying to negotiate something with the caucus or with the white house? none of us want a shutdown. democrats in particular see the ways in which a shutdown government hurts people. but we are out of patience for short-term patches for unmet promises. and i do know that senator chuck schumer is working hard and diligently. i spoke with, listened to more than a dozen other senators in the gym here this morning, senator schumer was working hard moving back and forth between folks in senior leadership and more junior members. one of the things i was working to do was to help republican colleagues understand how we hear it when mitch mcconnell, the republican leader in the senate takes to the floor last night and says this is all about illegal immigration, something that has no urgency to it and we don t need to fix now. when we saw last week president trump on tuesday choose to convene a bipartisan meeting and welcome legislators to come bring him a daca fix and then on thursday a strong bipartisan group of senators come back and say here it is. we ve worked it out. big investment in border security, some of the issues in terms of family migration that the president demanded and daca, and then the president blows it up. it is hard for democrats to believe that there is seriousness on the part of republicans about addressing it at another time. this also will hurt lots of other things unaddressed. disaster relief, children s health insurance program, community health centers. it s just stacked up to a point where we need a deal. andrea, within the next hour, believe, you will see senator schumer bring to the floor an amendment to the house cr bill, the bill in front of us that would put on the table all the things that we think we can agree on and we should agree on today to avoid a shutdown. let s drill down. what will be in that package? you talked about a list of things just now. are we talking about border security? c.h. i of i.p., dreamers, disaster relief for puerto rico? yes. a robust disaster relief package that addresses puerto rico and the virgin islands, western wildfires as well as texas and florida and the hurricane recovery funding. there s also a pension issue that i think is not widely known but is a long-standing unevolved issue that would be addressed in this. it would also ensure in the event of a shutdown, department of defense personnel would be paid. it addresses a wide range of issues from funding for the opioid crisis to disaster relief to our now months overdue budget agreement that would allow us to move forward on appropriations for the fiscal year that started in october. is your caucus united behind this? is joe manchin on this. it hasn t been put in front of the whole caucus. but what from i can see the basic outline put out this morning, i would expect our whole caucus would support it. what does that do in terms of procedural votes in terms of cloture and what the republicans are putting forward? that s a great question. at this point, the leadership of both caucuses would need to agree that we re going to take a vote on this. it includes the bill that has been worked on so hard by about this, what kind of guarantees would senator schumer and the rest of you democrats demand in order to proceed with a cloture vote and do a short-term three or four-day continuing resolution? you have to get it written almost in blood to be sure that the president won t change his mind or mitch mcconnell will go ahead with it. that s the challenge. senator mccanal last night said without presidential leadership, without clarity from president trump exactly what he s willing to sign op to, how can we negotiate over daca. that is the unresolved question. i m encouraged that president trump has apparently chosen to delay his trip to go play golf at his resort in florida and his $100,000 a head fund-raiser tomorrow to celebrate his inauguration. i m encouraged to hear the house is choosing to stay in. we ve got all the players in. we know what the menu of issues is. this is a perfect moment for the president to exceed our expectations and show that he really is the dealmaker that i think millions of americans who voted for him thought he would be. this is also a moment where we could fail to come together and the result would be an unfortunate and unnecessary shutdown. it is a place where the leadership of the senate it can start by being the folks here who show that we are sincerely committed to moving this forward. that would be a critical first step for the leadership of the republican caucus to say we know this is going on too long, several of our own members, there are republicans you just heard senator graham, senator flake and others who vote against the house passed cr. this is the time for us to be mature bipartisan leaders who will avert a shutdown and move forward on a broad, bold resolution to these challenges. thank you so much, senator chris coons. get back with us with any updates please. chuck todd is still with me. you heard the outlines of what the democrats are about to offer. do you think it can fly? i think it all depends on the white house reaction. it all goes i think it s it certainly sounded like to me dras would like to find a way not to shut down the government but not agree to the cr. right? they re looking for to see if there is any movement there. can they make an offer that will look, will make the republicans look bad if they can t, at least agree to that or something like this. let s see what it looks like. i think ultimately, again, i think the white house has to be the lead player here. and this is the problem. i think the trust issue. it does feel like we re probably going to end up short of because of political paralysis and polarization that led to paralysis that we ll stumble into the shutdown for the weekend. but there s also, it s so obvious how you sort of could break this impasse semi short term. split the difference, go ten days. i mean, this doesn t seem to be, we re negotiating how much more time we re going to have negotiatiations gauche negotiations on daca. agree how much more time you need to negotiate on daca. exactly. chuck todd, of course, you ll be all over this. make sure to watch chuck this afternoon at 5:00 eastern from mtp daily and on sunday meet the press. coming up, presidential precedent. donald trump about to become the first sitting president to speak live at the right to life march. had jackie speier joins me with her reaction next. you re watching andrea mitchell reports here on msnbc. you re right it is a big deal. this is a renod to the president s base, members of the president s base who elected him because of his stance on obviously being pro-life during the campaign. remember this is not a position that the president has always held. he has talked about how he used to feel differently on this topic and has changed had his mind over the years. remember too the actual event is only happening what, a mile or two away from the white house, not even. yet the president is choosing not to go in person and to do this live via satellite. it is a step further than any president in the past but it is not quite the step of going to the event and being there in person. remember of course, vice president pence last year was involved with the march for life. and so we do expect to see the president any minute. i m checking the podium, walk out of the west wing of the white house and come and speak via the satellite link in the rose garden in front those gathered here. all of it happening against the backdrop of this potential government shutdown. i am not expecting the president to mention the shutdown in these remarks. they ll likely focus on the issue he is here to talk about, but it is possible as i look at my fellow white house press corps colleagues lining the roads garden that the president will be asked about it after his remarks. in the audience i see kellyanne conway here who has been one of the president s point people on this issue along with a number of people, including younger kids here. you can see them behind me here, as well. and hallie, stand by for a moment. your colleague white house correspondent kristen welker is with the crowd along the march route. kristin, i don t know if you can hear me. it s pretty loud there. we can hear you. reporter: i have to tell you a lot of emotion here today. throngs of people energized by the fact that the president is going to speak. via satellite. the people who are here, they find this significant, a significant moment for their movement. now. kristin reporter: yes? it is a little difficult to make you out because of the loud speakers. if you could stand by. we re going to go back to haie and come back to you if there s a way to get farther away from the speakers, those loud speakers on the mall are pretty loud. hallie, let s talk for a moment how presidents reagan and bush telephoned in to the march when they broadcast that but never took the step. they always wanted to kind of mod due late their tone on this. have distance. and have a little distance between them and this. of course. that s a good point. yes, it is very loud where kristin is. we can hear the cheers coming through on the live satellite feed here in the rose garden. you re right. in the past, presidents have wanted to, as you say, moderate or put some distance there. so again this president is doing this is a first. this is a first for a president is to beam in live via satellite to address the crowd. you are hearing the organizers of the event too talking about the rose garden event and people are applauding now. this is mentioned over on the national mall. i believe this is a tee up for the president as a hear the speaker on the mall introducing this. andrea, i m going to toss it back to you. i believe the president is expected to walk out any second here. we re expecting him to come out, the vice president mike pence also had another event in the white house complex with his wife, karen pence. i think that is the introduction i believe for the vice president who is a very strong supporter of the anti-abortion movement. and we ll be leaving later today for the middle east and i ll be on that plane for a five-day trip to egypt, jordan and israel. americans young and old on our national mall at this very hour. welcome back to washington, d.c. and welcome back to the largest pro-life gathering in the united states of america. the 45th annual march for life. more than 240 years ago, our founders wrote words that have echoed through the ages. they declared these truths to be self-evident that we are each of us, endowed by our creator with certain unalienable rights and that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. 45 years ago, the supreme court of the united states turned its back on the unalienable right to life. but in that moment, our movement began. a movement that continues to win hearts and minds, a movement defined by generosity, compassion, and love. and a movement that one year ago tomorrow inaugurated the most pro-life president in american history, president donald trump. from preventing taxpayer dollars from funding abortion overseas to empowering states to respect life in title 10 to nominating judges who will uphold our god given liberties enshrined in the constitution of the united states, this president has been a tireless defender of life and conscience in america. and today, president trump will do even more to defend the most vulnerable in our society. my friends, life is winning in america. because love saves lives. and know as you march for life that your compassion, your persistence, your activism and your prayers are saving lives. and this pro-life generation should never doubt we are with you. this president stands with you. and he who said before i formed you in the womb i knew you is with you, as well. and i believe with all of my heart with your copied dedication and compassion, with pro-life majorities in the congress, with president donald trump in this white house and with god s help, we will restore the sanctity of life to the center of american law. and so with a grateful heart, on this 45th annual march for life, it is now my high honor and zing privilege to introduce to you wbr id= wbr18000 /> the 45th president of the united states of america, president donald trump. thank you. thank you very much. that s so nice. sit, please. we have tens of thousands of people watching us right down the road. tens of thousands. so i congratulate you and at least we picked a beautiful day. you can t get a more beautiful day. i want to thank our vice president, mike pence, for that wonderful introduction. i also want to thank you and karen for being true champions for life. thank you and thank karen. today i m honored and really /b> proud to be the first president to stand with you here at the white house to address the 45th march for life. that s very, very special. 45th march for life. and this is a truly remarkable group. today, tens of thousands of families, students and patriots and really just great citizens gather here in our nation s capital. you come from many backgrounds. many places. but you all come for one beautiful cause. to build a society where life is celebrated, protected and cherished. the march for life is a movement borne out of love. you love your families. you love your neighbors. you love our nation. and you love every child born and unborn because you believe that every life is sacred, that every child is a precious gift from god. we know that life is the greatest miracle of all. we see it in the eyes of every new mother who cradles that wonderful innocent and glorious newborn child in her loving arms. i want to thank every person here today and all across our country who works with such big hearts and tireless devotion to make sure that parents have the care and support they need to choose life. because of you, tens of thousands of americans have been born and reached their full god-given potential, because of you. you re living witnesses of this year s march for life theme and that theme is, love saves lives. wbr-id= wbr19800 /> as you all know, roe versus wade has resulted in some of the most per missive abortion laws anywhere in the world. for example, in the united states, it s one you have only seven countries to allow elective late term abortions along with china, north korea, and others. right now in a number of states, the laws allow a baby to be born from his or her mother s womb in the ninth month. it is wrong. it has to change. americans are more and more pro-life, you see that all the time. in fact, only 12% of americans support abortion on demand at any time. under my administration, we will always defend the very first right in the declaration of independence. and that is the right to life. tomorrow will mark exactly one year since i took the oath of office. and i will say our country is doing really well. our economy is perhaps the best it s ever been. you look at the job numbers. you look at the companies pouring back into our country. you look at the stock market at an all-time high. unemployment 17-year low. unemployment for african-american workers at the lowest mark in the history of our country. unemployment for hispanic at a record low in history. unemployment for women, think of this, at at 18-year low. we re really proud of what we re doing. and during my first week in office, i reenstated a policy first put in place by president ronald reagan, the mexico city policy. i strongly supported the house of representatives pain capable bill which would end painful late term abortions nationwide. and i call upon the senate to pass this important law and send it to my desk for signing. on the national day of prayer, i signed an executive order to protect religious liberty. very proud of that. today i m announcing that we have just issued a new proposal to protect conscience rights and religious freedoms of doctors, nurses and other medical professionals. so important. i have also just reversed the previous administration s policy that restricted states efforts to direct medicaid funding away from abortion facilities that violate the law. we are protecting the sanctity of life and the family as the foundation of our society. but this movement can only succeed with a heart and soul and the prayer of the people. here with us today is mary anna donadio from greensboro, north carolina. where is mary anna? hello. come on up here. come. nice to see you. she was 17 when she found out she was pregnant. at first she felt like she had no place to turn. but when she told her parents, they responded with total love, total affection, total support. great parents. great. i thought you were going to say that. i had to be careful. mary anna bravely chose life and soon gave birth to her son. she named him benedict which means blessing. mary anna was so grateful for her parents love and support that she felt called to serve those who were not as fortunate as her. she joined with others in her community to start a maternity home to care for hopeless women who were pregnant. it s great. they named it room at the inn. today, mary anna and her husband don are the parents of six beautiful children and her eldest son benedict and her daughter maria join us here today. where are they? come on over. that s great. over the last 15 years, room at the inn has provided housing child care, counseling, education and job training to more than 400 women. even more importantly, it has given them hope. it has shown each woman that she is not forgotten, that she is not alone and that she really now has a whole family of people who will help her succeed. that hope is the true gift of this incredible movement that brings us together today. it is the gift of friendship, the gift of mentorship, and the gift of encouragement, love, and support. those are beautiful words and those are beautiful gifts. and most importantly of all, it is the gift of life itself. that is why we march. that is why we pray. and that is why we declare that america s future will be filled with goodness, peace, joy, dignity, and life for every child of god. thank you to the march for life special special people. and we are with you all the way. make god bless you and may god bless america. thank you. thank you. thank you very much. thank you very much. let s go to kasie hunt on hadn t hill with breaking news about chuck schumer. hey, yes, we do have breaking news. we are learning here at nbc a source familiar telling us that president trump extended an invitation to chuck schumer to head to the white house to talk about how to avert a government shutdown. i m told schumer has accepted the invitation and planning to go to the white house imminently to have this conversation. we were talking about this earlier in your broadcast as being probably the only way to break this impasse to have the president get involved because both sides, republican and democrat here on capitol hill, have become so entrenched in their positions refusing to move as we head towards this imminent shutdown at midnight tonight friday. so we will see what comes of this conversation. there had been some reports we had been working to confirm them, we hadn t gotten very far that schum her advised the president that tom cotton, the senator from arkansas, shouldn t be involved in any talks. we were unable to confirm that. he has been somebody named as a potential sticking point here. so i think democrats are demanding that the president come away from the positions that he took in that very contentious thursday closed door meeting where the president used that languaging about african nations and about haiti. they want to see more of the president that appeared on tuesday in that public meeting. so i think the big question, what is the posture that the president is going to take? what is he going to tell senator schumer is potentially willing to accept and how intensely does the white house feel they need to avoid a government shutdown in one reality here on capitol hill is that both sides had essentially been saying hey, we can win the argument if we shut down. democrats saying look, this is republicans fault. they re refusing to do a deal that they say they want to do. republicans saying hey, senate democrats could easily give us the votes. you saw mitch mcconnell open the floor this morning with that pretty belligerent statement. so again, some pretty significant news here, andrea, as we wait to figure out when this key procedural vote might be scheduled. thanks . just in the last 30 minutes, we were talking to chris coons who laid out what chuck schumer s proposal is. i pointed out chuck schumer had not been seen all day. dick durbin did the opening statement on the floor and chuck schuper was talking to somebody behind the scenes. your reaction to what you re hearing about schumer heading your way. reporter: it s significant. the top legislative aide mark short told me the president would be making overtures and phone calls to leaders on the hill. clearly that has happened. as the president wrapped up his speech here in the roads garden, he did not mention the shutdown. i yelled questions. i tried to ask him about the schuper meeting. other reporters also asked about the shutdown. the president did not engage in this which is suppose to be his only public appearance of the day. now, will that change? might there be one of those surprise movements where all of a sudden a bunch of cameramen rush to the doors of the west wing because we can see this meeting between president trump, chuck schumer and perhaps others? there s always the possibility. that is what we re watching for today. i thought it was notable president trump mentioned the inaugural anniversary. tomorrow one year since he has taken office with the very real possibility there be a shutdown on that anniversary. he did not mention the shutdown part but did mention the anniversary part of it. i will tell you that i have reached out to white house officials on this. it sounds like right now, most of the information they aret letting come from case hunt and garrett haake s side of things. we ll it be judgment dating you. knowing how this president works and how he s worked in the past, i wouldn t be surprised if we see a shot of the oval office meeting. i m not a betting woman. if i were, i might take that bet. i think you re right. thank you so very much. joining me now democratic congresswoman jackie speier who had a 2011 house spending dependent opened up about her deeply personal experience with abortion. i want to talk to you about this march and the president s involvement, the first sitting president ever to do that. first, what is your sense of this possible deal making, chuck schumer trying to avert a shutdown by getting some agreement for the dreamers? i m very optimistic that we have a path forward conceivably now. it was looking pretty dire here where 45 minutes ago. and the rumors in the house floor were we were just going to shut down. and go home. which would have been just horrific. i would not have supported that at all. there s a lot of rupe mores that there is an interest in at least extending it for five working days because some of these members really want to go off to davos this weekend. there s always a hidden agenda. and i think that s one of the agendas. i think the president wants to go on down to mar-a-lago to have his big $100,000 per person fund-raiser tomorrow night. there s a lot of other elements playing out. i think what we are most concerned about is governing by what continuing resolutions is not governing. that s why we re seeing the kinds of hits being take in our military where it s just the same budget year after year without the kind of augmentation needed for certain services and certain weapons systems and readiness. congresswoman, i wanted to also ask you about this march, the president s involvement, the rose garden appearance, giving a satellite speech to them. your reaction to that given your own experiences. well, you know, in 1999, the president was pro-choice. in 2016, he had five different positions in three days. and at one point, actually thought women should be punished if they had an abortion. most abortions take place in the first trimester, only 1% of abortions take place in the last trimester. it is about choice. he talked about the woman who he brought forward and said she chose life. well, this is a choice between a woman and her physician and let us remind everyone that in this country, it is still the law, abortion is legal. there is something very painful to go through an abortion. and my abortion was late term at 17 weeks. it was not something that i it was a very painful experience. and it was a fetus that was not going to survive outside of the womb. and i think that there home run so stories like that. and there s a callousness with which some people, the president included, talk about this because they don t live it. thank you very much for bringing your experience to us and on all of these subjects. thank you, jackie speier. joining me now is pennsylvania republican congressman charlie dent who voted for the short-term government funding bill that passed the house on thursday. first of all, your reaction to the schumer possibility of a longer term agreement which would include the d.r.e.a.m.ers. we understand border security, some of the other immigration proposals that the president wanted, chain migration for instance, those family members. but would be a longer term fix for some of these other problems. well, andrea, we do need a long-term budget agreement. we will not get that budget agreement though till we have an agreement on daca plus border security and the other provisions, family migration, that sort of thing. that has to happen. now, in order for that daca bipartisan agreement to occur, the house leadership and the senate leadership have to allow a bill to come to the floor in the house anyway that will not get the majority to support it. i don t see any way around that. the house right now is talking about daca, but in terms of a bill that s republican only that has no chance of passing the senate. i think it s encouraging we re having this discussion conflating budget agreement with daca border security. it needs to happen. if the president and chusupe come to agreement and mish mcconnell would go with anything the president supports, how do you get the house republicans on board? we ll have no choice. the senate will end up forcing the hand of the house. then the speaker will have to make a decision. and i know that he s under pressure not to allow a bill to come to the floor that will not receive a majority of house republican votes but that is inevitable. we have seen this time and again and hear the hastert rule, the majority. we re all for that till we re not. this is one of those cases where to get that budget agreement, there are not 218 republican votes for that or for daca or for the debt ceiling. they ll toll that in there too, my prediction. why did you vote for the short term continuing resolution? the only thing worse than a cr is a government shutdown. we need this budget agreement. thank you very much. thank you. let s go back to garrett haake on capitol hill. this is a breaking news story. garrett? reporter: yeah, that s right. we re expecting this meeting between the president and minority leader chuck shumer to happen any minute now. some of our team saw chuck schumer leaving the capitol will ten minutes ago. it doesn t take that long to get across town. the question we re trying to answer now, i m reporting this in realtime here is whether or not this will be a one-on-one meeting as it appears to be right now. we ve reached out to mish mcconnell s office trying to figure out if he or any other top republicans are in the room. it matters because what we ve seen time and time again with this president which is often the last person to have his ear on these major issues is the person who wins the argument. it s the complaints from lindsey graham that somebody got to the president between the time he thought he had a daca dealen at time he arrived later and learned he didn t. if this is one on one meeting between chuck schumer and donald trump who have shown some affinity, it could be a very big deal and something republicans may not be particularly excited about. garrett, just a quick question. my understanding from chris koons that the children s health program, c.h.i.p., would be part of this. can t confirm that. senator koons may know better than i. c.h.i.p. has been a bargaining chip so many times in all of this because it s such a popular provision. it gets added to almost every big package that gets discussed up here. garrett haake, thank you for being on top of it all. if congress does not get a spending bill passed in the next 12 hours, it s not only the government that shuts down. starting tonight, many of the 9 million children who depend on c.h.i.p., the children s health insurance program, will lose their coverage. joining me is mark shriver, director of save the children usa. i don t have to tell you that we re at the height of flu season. one of the worst flus we ve seen. children are dying. people are in ers. and the government could potentially shut down and all of these kids would not be covered. it s an amazing program started by senator kennedy and senator hatch. he said we had a moral obligation to our children. we re 21 years later using this as a big bargaining chip. the kids, poor kids, don t have access to the political system and they have been pushed aside. they don t vote or give money. and both republicans and democrats have let this happen. it s the fourth time we ve had a cr. it s crazy, right? and the fact we re negotiating around children s health and pregnant mothers is really outrageous. and i don t think anything is going to change until the people stand up and tell leaders of both parties this has to stop. we remember when your uncle teddy kennedy would be negotiate with orrin hatch and coming up with health and edge programs. he d be negotiating with dan quayle. and that sense of bipartisanship seems to have passed by washington. and i think people outside the beltway are just appalled by it. the fact is, it s not only c.h.i.p. but another program called maternal infant, early childhood home visiting program which is $4 million which has bipartisan support which is not being renewed either. that s for young children, 0 to 5, to get home visiting that s been shown through results to have a profound impact on kids and families. but somehow kids and families that don t have money, don t have resources, don t have a voice in washington. it s really a terrible situation. they ve got money to make the entire cabinet to davos, switzerland. i heard that comment. that unbelievable. they re talking about going to davos and not taking care of our most vulnerable little citizens. it s a bad state of affairs. i think people have to get off their butts and get engaged. that s what the political process is. it s that line from teddy 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told that national security adviser michael flynn was susceptible to blackmail by russia. that warning was issued by acting attorney general sally yates, who told white house counsel don mcgahn that flynn was vulnerable because he misled the vice president and others about the nature of his conversation with russian ambassador sergey kislyak. despite her warning, president trump chose to keep flynn on the job as top national security post for 18 more days, according to the report. mueller s goal in part is to determine whether there was a deliberate effort to cover up the information that yates had provided the white house. as nbc reports, multiple sources say that during interviews, mueller s investigators have asked witnesses, including white house counsel don mcgahn himself and others who have worked in the west wing to go through each day that flynn remained as national security adviser and describe in detail what they knew was happening inside the white house as it related to flynn. we ve known since june that president trump is under investigation, possibly for attempts to obstruct justice. this is the latest sign that mueller is pursuing every lead in that area. i m joined right now by the author of that report, julia ainsley of nbc news. matt apuzzo is a report were the new york times and an msnbc political analyst. and anne milligram is the former attorney general of new jersey. thank you all. let me go with julia. just lay it out. the possibilities here are fraught. it seems to me the question at large here in our faces, did the president attempt to cover up the fact that he knew that his guy, his national security guy michael flynn had lied about his conversations with the russians about sanctions? yes, chris, that is the question, of course, that robert mueller is zeroing in on. it may be that mueller already has a lot of information from flynn. we know he is a cooperating witness on what went on during these 18 days. most lawyers who we ve spoken to say a lawyer in mcgahncgahn s position immediately would have gone to flynn after a meeting with sally yates and said so did you lie to the fbi? that information could have been given to him, could have been given to president. maybe mueller knows that now. what he is doing as he methodically goes through these people who a lot are still in the white house is he come pang flynn s testimony to theirs. so this is a large legal exposure for a lot of people who are still in this administration, including for president himself, especially if it turns out that donald trump knew that michael flynn lied to the fbi, and that he knew that when he was pressuring jim comey to drop the case. how do we know that he was told what flynn said to the fbi? so we how do we know there was such a conversation between anybody i assume mcgahn, his white house lawyer, who knew the situation, but how do we know anyone told the president that his guy lied? so at this point what we re going on is the fact that former federal prosecutors that we have spoken to have said look, it would make a lot of sense after this january 26th meeting between sally yates and don mcgahn that these conversations started. sally yates described change in his demeanor between the 26th and when she was called back. it was clear he had spoken to lat of people at the white house. so these conversation mace have spread. flynn may have told mcgahn, and that information could have gotten to donald trump. we don t know exactly what flynn told mcgahn. we don t know what went to donald trump. but that sat the heart of this investigation. and we re sure that mueller wants to get to the bottom of that question. well, among his many conversations with ambassador kislyak was flynn s phone call on december 29th last year in which flynn discussed reversing u.s. sanctions on russia. about two weeks later on january 15th, vice president pence publicly denied that sanctions were discussed in that conversation. take a look. did mike flynn ever discuss lifting sanctions in any of those conversations? do you know? i talked to general flynn yesterday. and the conversations that took place at that time were not in any way related to new u.s. sanctions against russia or the expulsion of diplomats. well, then during an interview with the fbi on the 24th, flynn lied about the nature of that call, saying sanctions were not discussed. on january 26th, acting attorney general sally yates then warned white house council don mcgahn, as i said, that flynn was susceptible to russian blackmail because it was clear he had led the vice president and others. here is how she described it. we felt like it was critical that we get this information to the white house because in part because the vice president was unknowingly making false statements to the public, and because we believed that general flynn was compromised with respect to the russians. well, for 18 days after she delivered that warning to mcgahn, the white house lawyer, flynn remained in his job as national security adviser for 18 days he stayed on the job after they knew he lied. on february 13th, the president fired flynn, but only after it was reported that he had lied to the vice president. the next day, according to fbi, former fbi director james comey, the president urged comey, him to drop the fbi s investigation of flynn. give us a sense of this intrigue here, what you see happening, what all this has told us so far. well, all this has told us is bob mueller s got a hell of a puzzle to put together. and part of this he wants to know because maybe there is a crime. but part of this is he s trying to figure out exactly what happened. his mandate is understand russian influence, understand what happened in these crazy moments early on in the trump administration. and after a campaign where russia was repeatedly reaching out and trying to make contact with people in the trump campaign. so he wants to know what happened, whether it s a crime or whether just to be able to say i figured it out. i know what happened. anne, explain obstruction here in this context. what would obstruction be? is this what it looks like, the attempt by the president to keep on a guy he knew had lied, perhaps lied to the fbi as well as the vice president? the question we re asking is whether or not there was obstruction here. the court questions are what did the president know, when did he know hem:00 and what actions did he take to prevent that investigation from going forward or to prevent relevant information going to the investigators like the fbi and the department of justice. i think that goes back to when flynn was first interviewed the fbi. he was a member of the administration at that time. mueller want to know what did flynn say when he was interviewed at that time. did the president have any conversations with him before that interview took place with the fbi. of course, after sally yates spoke to the white house, the question would be what, if anything did trump know or say to flynn and others. and finally in this conversation with comey. so there are a lot of conversations that could have involved both the president and general flynn. and remember here that the key thing that has switched in the last couple of weeks is about a week and a half ago, we know that michael flynn plead guilty and is cooperating with the government. and so while mueller s team would have been trying to understand all of these conversations and what happen durding that 18-day period from day one, at this point he has someone who was in a lot of those rooms who is giving him information about hey, this is what i said. this is what the president said, this is what the white house council said. and so they re trying to put together those pieces of the puzzle. let me look at this. the president appeared to suggest he knew flynn had lied to the fbi at the time he fired him, saying in a tweet this month, i had to fire general flynn because he lied to the fire department and the fbi. well, trump lawyer has since taken responsibility for that tweet, which he said was a mistake. the white house wouldn t say exactly when the president first learned when flynn lied to the fbi. when did the police department know that mike flynn lied to the fbi? as i said earlier, i refer you d back to john dowd s clarification. i m asking future a day. when did he find out? was it made friday or the day prior to that? again, i m not aware of those specifics. but i would refer you to john dowd for that. just a statement of fact. what day the president discovered this lie issue. and i m telling you as a statement of fact that you should contact john dowd. it doesn t seem that hard. it doesn t seem that hard. that s snarky. reached for comment last week, john dowd told abc news i m not going to engage on this subject. back to you, julia. i want to take a chance to try to make this i keep thinking of denzel washington in philadelphia. explain it to my grandmother. i real have to let people catch unon this story. if the question sheer whether the trump administration in its early days, in its infancy was involved already, back and forth and in cahoots with the russian, fine. the question is did they obstruct justice by trying to protect that information. if the president knew that his national security guy had in fact discussed sanctions, relieving sanction under the new administration, if he knew that happened and helped him keep it secret from the investigators, would that be, even if it was only for 18 days, would that be obstruction? so what we can say here in a way that i can explain it to your grandmother is that when the president is pressuring his national security adviser, whether it s to make this phone call in the first place, whether it s to then go lie to the fbi about it or possibly lie to the vice president about it, he is inserting himself in a way that could be part of the collusion investigation. where we come into the obstruction investigation is then if he tried to obstruct the fbi s at this point it s just the fbi s investigation into michael flynn. this is before robert mueller came on. obstruction would be if he interceded with the knowledge that his national security director had lied or instructed him to lie, that would also be part of obstruction, and told james comey to drop the case that would be the obstruction prong of this. of course, this is still building. mueller is a looking into whether the president obstructed justice. we don t want the make complete, definite claims here because this investigation is ongoing. but it s clear here that michael flynn is a soldier. it would be kind of rare for him to go out on his own and make these calls and go rogue and lie to the fbi and not be talking to anyone about it. so there is a reason why mueller is really focused on this. and this could end up giving him a lot of the answers he needs, both about the way the trump transition worked possibly with russia and the way that this administration tried to cover up those contacts. again, back to anne for the expertise on obstruction. if the president knew that his guy had lied to the vice president, if he had known or gotten word that he had lied to the fbi, if he had let him sit there and let him look legitimate all those weeks, for 18 days, two and a half week, if highway he had done all that, is that obstruction? i think that s the exact question that mueller is going to answer. as an expert, is that one of the elements of obstruction? i think just knowing there was an ongoing investigation, i would want to know if i were bob mueller. i would want to know when the president knew what he was told, what he said exactly to james comey. we have comey s testimony. and i think that there is a good case to be made that there was obstruction of justice here. but i do think that the devil is going to be in the details on what was known when and what was said. and so remember, with obstruction, there has to be an investigation going. there are different legal components to it. it could be obstructing congress. it could be obstructing the department of justice. and so, you know, the questions that mueller is going to be asking are not just those questions about comey, but also what, if anything, did the president say to flynn? did he encourage flynn to say that they hadn t talked about sanctions? that s a potential question of obstruction. and so there are a lot of pieces here that a i think a lot of the piece of the puzzle are coming together, but i would want more before i walked into a grand jury. my question, matt is when do we know, how do we know the president was told if flynn lied to the fbi? we don t know that. and we ve all been covering this now for almost a year. in my reporting, and i haven t seen in any other reporting that suggests the president is telling flynn to lie to the fbi or when he was told that flynn lied to the fbi or that his firing was to try to cover up something with the fbi. you re going to a whole new supposition here. what we know is mueller is asking questions of people about flynn s tenure and his dismissal. but making the jump frankly, the president say loued to keep his national security adviser on even after he has been told by his attorney general hey, the guy is a security risk. hey, i m the president. even if he told him the jump he told him to lie? when did he know, did he keep him on? we don t have those facts. a lot of it is sort of supposition. at some point we might hear from mcgahn. thank you, julia ainsley, and matt apuzzo, thank you as always. and anne milgram, thank you for your expertise. coming up, it s the night before election in alabama. the democrats are hoping doug jones can pull up what was once considered unthinkable, a vic ray in trump country over roy moore. we ll see than. obama is not quite in for jones. richard shelby says the state deserves better, better than roy moore. and he is really being emphatic. that s ahead. plus, that new york times about donald trump s battle for self-preservation. trump fights hour to hour looking to vanquish rivals and establish legitimacy. about four hours a day of us and 12 diet cokes makes a man like donald trump be donald trump. and as the me too movement takes down high profile men in politics and public life, three of donald trump s accusers are speaking out again today and clearly they want congress to investigate trump s behavior as the white house denies their claims. finally, let me finish tonight with trump watch. you will not like it. i don t like this stupid war he is starting over there, this third intifada over in jerusalem, which is a stupid thing he did. and we re all going to pay for it. this is hardball, where the action is. the real gift isn t what s inside the box. it s what s inside the person who opens it. give ancestrydna, the only dna test that can trace your origins to over 150 ethnic regions- and open up a world of possibilities. save 30% for the holidays at ancestrydna.com .nausea, heartburn, indigestion, upset stomach, diarrhea! nausea, heartburn, indigestion, upset stomach, diarrhea! here s pepto bismol! ah. nausea, heartburn, indigestion, upset stomach, diarrhea! a suspect is in custody tonight following an attempted terror attack on the new york subway system. surveillance cameras captured this video of akhed oa. moments later the device he was wearing detonated, injuring himself and three others. he was taken into an area hospital where he is being treated for burns to his hands and abdomen. authorities say the suspect lives in brooklyn and came to the u.s. from bangladesh about seven years ago. a senior law enforcement official says he told investigators that he carried out the botched attack in the name of isis. we ll be right back. y do you pu? 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this outsider thing. because this alabama thing. they don t like outside agitators. yeah, they don t. they did look at me as a yankee. look, i m the boston globe. what are you doing. dirty yankee. but, you know, the women who accused roy moore are also alabamans, okay. they re locals. when i heard about this focus group down there, they don t believe them. yeah. i talked to a lot of those. i did. i talked to a lot of people who are saying similar things. or they saying they believe them, but hey, this isn t that different from what my grandparents did. i talked to one woman who said yeah, my grandma, she was 16 years old when she got married to my grandfather. but her grandfather was 17. no, no. in this case he was older. he was in his 30s. no! are they dreaming this up just to win the case down there? that seems very convenient. anyway, many republicans in washington here continue to express concern about the prospects of roy moore actually winning tomorrow. let s watch. roy moore will be the gift that keeps on giving for democrats. it will define the 2018 election, at least 2018. and to think you can elect roy moore without getting the baggage of roy moore is pretty naive. i ve always said that so far as i can tell, the allegations are significantly stronger than the denial. i didn t have to withdraw my endorsement of moore because i didn t endorse him in the first place. i think roy moore is an abomination to the republican party. and that s within thing republicans and democrats agree on. gene, what does this mean? it s not going to be a welcome wagon if he gets elected. no. if he gets elected, it s going to be really weird. because now we have a whole bunch of republican senators on the record. it says this guy is scum, right? this guy is an awful guy, and we don t want him. so what if he shows up? if he shows up, presumably they start an ethics investigation. but that s what first date like in the republican caucus meeting when they sit down? roy you got anything to say? i m just getting the word from my executive produce they re the robocall from obama is going out, trying to get the vote out. oh, it. annie, this is interesting. besides being a reporter, you re a woman. this someone of the issues since arguing over women being able to right suffrage. it really has become a gender issue. yeah. the crime has been women. absolutely. i went down to alabama specifically to find women who were supporting roy moore. and it was hard. i was in a county that was 76%, voted 76% for trump. so 3/4 of voters in that county voted for trump. when i was looking for women who would say on the record that they were voting for roy moore, i mean, they laughed at me. they just laughed at me. and almost all of them said no. i mean, i was in a waffle house where people were laughing at me, oh, gosh, golly, i m not voting for that guy. we have a secret ballot in this country. do you think that laughing was real? it was real. or public? and this county so you think the election might be more to jones than we thought? i think it s definitely i know the conventional wisdom is that roy moore is going to walk away with this tomorrow by a few points. but, you know, when i was in this county, i was really having a hard time finding people, finding women at least. i believe in the shoe lett air proach. you went out there and dud it. and there were no signs. that was the other thing. there were no roy moore signs, you know? in the final weekend of the election, democrat doug jones made numerous campaign stops, but where was roy moore? according to politico, moore hasn t held a political event since tuesday. it s now monday. two republicans briefed on moore s schedule before the weekend said he intended to spend saturday in philly at the army-navy game. that was this saturday at the west point grad had insist head would still take in this year despite the election. moore s campaign declined repeated requests to discuss his whereabouts and refused to say whether he had in fact this is spooky. it either is he is sure he is going win or he seems better than he looks. so he doesn t want people to meet him. or he doesn t want questions raised hi, doesn t want to answer the questions. he doesn t want to be in a situation where he can be pressed to answer the questions that he has such trouble answering. that s right. he denies, but first he didn t actually deny. and so what was that about? he just doesn t want that. so he figures he has a better chance if he actually stays away from the state. an amazing way to run for office. i think i m beginning to think maybe it s a slight victory for jones. we ll see. thank you, gene robinson. i know being held to that. we ll be covering the special election in alabama tomorrow on hardball at 7:00 p.m. eastern. and back again at midnight. we ll have a special hour tomorrow night at midnight. elove these hours, believe it or not. i love staying up late because we know then the crackle of defeat or victory. no more talk, it s decided. i love it. up next, a staggering new report about trump s life inside the white house. the president is watching up to eight hours of tv a day. he is a couch potato using the cable news coverage to hone his talking points. he is practicing on us. isn t it supposed to be other way around and we learn from him? no, no. he learns truth from television. this is hardball, where the action is. this is a power plant. this is tim barckholtz. that s me! this is something he is researching at exxonmobil: using fuel cells to capture carbon emissions at power plants. this is the potential. reducing co2 emissions by up to 90%. while also producing more power. this could be big. energy lives here. was supposed to be a wake reup call for our government?sh people all across the country lost their savings, their pensions and their jobs. i m tom steyer and it turned out that the system that had benefited people like me who are well off, was, in fact, stacked against everyone else. it s why i left my investment firm and resolved to use my savings for the public good. but here we are nine years later and this president and the republican congress are making a bad situation even worse. they won t tell you that their so called tax reform plan is really for the wealthy and big corporations, while hurting the middle class. it blows up the deficit and that means fewer investments in education, health care and job creation. it s up to all of us to stand up to this president. not just for impeachable offenses, but also to demand a country where everyone has a real chance to succeed. join us. your voice matters. what s going on? oh hey! that s it? yeah. everybody two seconds! dear sebastian, after careful consideration of your application, it is with great pleasure that we offer our congratulations on your acceptance. through the tuition assistance program, every day mcdonald s helps more people go to college. it s part of our commitment to being america s best first job. beginning january 1. this despite the president s opposition. potential transgender recruits will still have to overcome the armed services lengthy and strict set of physical, medical and mental health requirements. back to hardball. welcome back to hardball. over the weekend, the new york times published an in-depth piece exploring the day in the life of president donald trump. speaking to roughly 60 sources, that s 60 sources, the new york times paints a picture of a president preoccupied by his own self-preservation, someone who views every day as an episode in a television show in which he vanquishes rivals. much of what fuels his day is his seemingly insatiable appetite for cable news and diet coke. according to the new york times, the president starts his day with a healthy dose of tv in the white house master bedroom. quote, people close to him estimate that mr. trump spends at least four hours a day, and sometimes as much as twice that in front of the television, sometimes with the volume muted, marinating in the no-holds bar ed wars of cable news and eager to fire back. a source close to the president said he has had a difficult adjustment to the presidency because he assumed it would be more akin to the popular image of imperial command. during the first month of his presidency he even barked commands at senators. early this morning the president reacted to the article tweeting another false story, this time in the new york times, that i watch four to eight hours of television a day. wrong! contributor for reagan, actually, not contributor, ronald reagan himself. ron, he sound like the old john mclaughlin. wrong! what do you make of the television binge and the fact that he seems like a reaction. not rocket man, but reaction man. why would you watch all ual day thinking of ways to get bad and react to? there is a lot that is disturbing in this story. you know, let s just take the two little headline items you mentioned, the television binging and the diet coke. this is behavior that would be concerning to a parent if they found it in their high school student. they d want to intervene. and you wonder, eight hours of television a day. the presidency is a pretty all consuming job. when does he find time to actually be president? the answer from this article seems to be that he s not really ever being president in the way we think of being president. in other words, engaging with issues all the time, grappling with different things, you know. arm twisting members of congress, all that sort of thing. he is mostly interested in how he is being spoken about on television. but the metta points about this that came out to me, at least, about this article are, one, that so many people within the white house, people who work under donald trump are willing to anonymously at least talk about his lack of fitness for the office. and the other thing is that we are talking about that too and have been since the election. all of this stuff. this conversation that we re having now is circling around the point of is this president mentally fit to be president of the united states? and i think a lot of us privately are thinking no, he is not. and that includes a lot of republicans. well, let s talk about the terrifying power he holds even in this television obsession of his. i remember an old twilight episode where this young kid turns out to have supernatural powers. he has kinetic powers. he can make things happen. he can make people die. remember that kid? he wishes people into the cornfield. and everybody has to tell him it s a good day, bobby, it s a good day. yes, everything is fine. i think, i imagine the people fluttering around him at the white house, all pandering to his needs because he is the commander in chief and he can hurt people . he cannot just fire them, he can bring doom on this planet. the article in the new york times also reports that some of his associates have raised questions as ron just did there his willingness to separate bad information from factual information. even after a year of official briefings and access to the best minds in the federal government, mr. trump is skeptical of anything that does not come from inside his bubble. here is something that didn t come inside his bubble. if you move the american embassy to jerusalem and you make it look to the arab world like they re never going to get a capital in east jerusalem, that they re just screwed out of any deal, we re no long an honest broker, we re israel s ally and it s as simple as that, you re going get an unending third intifada, and let s face it, it has begun. did anybody inside the bubble like jared kushner say mr. president, that s a dumb thing to do with huge consequences? apparently not. apparently they didn t. but this is something he could do. it s something he could sign a document. we know he loves to sign those documents. and it s something he could do unilaterally without consulting anybody. so he did it. because it was a big dramatic gesture. but it has no thought behind it there is no strategy there. he didn t consult with allies about this, which you would do if you were going to undermine the position of the let s say the entire european community regarding israel. i don t might want to consult with your allies about that. but no, no, he doesn t. surprise, we re moving our embassy to jerusalem, you know. ron, you re great. you ve got a great satirical mind which is perfect for this situation. [ laughter ] it s the only thing that will save us all. maybe it will. there is some hume were it. thank you so much, ronald reagan from seattle. up next, the women who accuse president trump of sexual misconduct are speaking out once again, deal detailing their allegations against the president and calling on congress to investigate these events. you re watching hardball. but do you take something for your brain. with an ingredient originally found in jellyfish, prevagen is the number one selling brain-health supplement in drug stores nationwide. prevagen. the name to remember. i m all about my bed. this mattress is dangerously comfortable. when i get in i literally say, ahh. america loves the leesa mattress. we have more five star customer reviews then any other mattress of it s kind. this bed hugs my body. today is gonna to be great. place your order and experience the leesa mattress at home risk free. order now and get $100 off and free shipping too. go to buyleesa.com today. usaa to me means peace of mind. we had a power outage for five days total. we lost a lot of food. we actually filed a claim with usaa to replace that spoiled food. and we really appreciated that we re the webber family and we are usaa members for life. we are the driven. the dedicated. the overachievers. we know our best investment is in ourselves. we don t take no for an answer. we fight for what we want. even for the things that were once a given. going to college. buying a home. and not being in debt for it for the rest of our lives. but we re only as strong as our community. who inspires and pushes us to go further than we could ever go alone. sofi. get there sooner. i am a first responder tor and i emergencies 24 hours a day, everyday of the year. my children and my family are on my mind when i m working all the time. my neighbors are here, my friends and family live here, so it s important for me to respond as quickly as possible and get the power back on. it s an amazing feeling turning those lights back on. be informed about outages in your area. sign up for outage alerts at pge.com/outagealerts. together, we re building a better california. it became apparent that in some areas, the accusations of sexual aggression were being taken seriously. and people were being held accountable, except for our president. and he was not being held accountable. i asked that congress put aside their party affiliations and investigate mr. trump s history of sexual misconduct. welcome back to hardball. those are two of the women who have accused president trump of sexual misconduct speaking out today, this morning, and calling on the u.s. congress to investigate those allegations against trump. well, the accusations have gotten new attention as the me too movement has taken down high profile men in politics and public life. and as trump has thrown his support behind alabama republican senate candidate roy moore. three of the president s accusers spoke today with nbc s megyn kelly. all of the sudden he was all over me, kissing and groping and groping and kissing. when his hands starting going up my skirt, i m not a small person. i managed to wiggle out. looking me over like i was just a piece of meat. i was not a human being. i didn t have a brain. i didn t have a personality. i was just simply there for his pleasure. so he kept kissing you? yeah, he went i don t know how many times back and forth, multiple. and then he kissed me on the lips. and i was shocked. yeah. devastated. i didn t it happened so fast. they spoke out one day after these comments from nikki haley, trump s ambassador our ambassador to the u.n. women who accuse anyone should be heard. they should be heard and they should be dealt with. and i think we heard from them prior to the election. and i think any woman who has felt violate order felt mistreated in any way, they have every right to speak up. trump has denied the allegations against him. in his statement, the white house called the charges politically motivated. and press secretary sarah sanders defended the president. let s listen. the president has addressed these accusations directly and denied all of these allegations. and this took place long before he was elected to be president. and the people of this country had a decisive election, supported president trump. and we feel like these allegations have been answered through that process. going back to the hardball round table. ken vogel, political reporter for new york times and jeff bennett is white house correspondent for nbc news. gentlemen and lady, thank you. why don t we talk here about this thing. what can be done? i m not complete hard-nosed political assessor. but besides sort of dressing down the president for what he did and making it clear that these events did happen, and you just have to accept them, they re not really being challenged as truth. what does that get done? does it diminish this president? does it teach a lesson to other men or what? where are we going here? right. on the other end of that question, asking that question to today s briefing about the congressional investigations. but that is something i have also wondered. the women are saying that congress investigated al franken. so congress, the ethics committee should also investigate president trump. they didn t and then he supposedly and then he left. but the reason he came under franken, under an ethics investigation is because he is a senator and it s their job to police that body. so when it comes to president trump, you re asking at this point maybe the oversight committee. you re asking some committee in congress to take it upon themselves to investigate the president. and with republican-run congress, the likelihood of something like that happening is almost nothing. what would they do with their investigation if they did conduct one? they would bring forth these allegation in a way that you saw them here and a way that you did see them. it s a certain branch of government. there is almost nothing they can do short of bringing articles of impeachment. i don t know on what grounds they would do that. and obviously republicans don t have the house anyway. so it s kind of a moot point. but there is this change where when the allegations were first aired during the campaign, we were not in this moment that we are right now? we ve had sort of a cultural shift. i think a lot of it has to do with allegations against harvey weinstein. i agree. explain that, because i think the cosmo has shifted there. i think because the ronan farrow, and the new york times went after him in a way that looked very credible. there was no real defense there was a lot of witnesses. on the record by name, a lot of really strong reporting. it was pretty much a done deal. and what did that do? what that has done is shifted the burden of proof. it made it more likely culturally for accusers, particularly women accusing men of sexual misconduct to be believed and emboldened more women to come forward. if you remember in the week before the election, there was set to be a big press conference where a woman who had made some explosive claims anonymously in a lawsuit against then candidate trump was going to come forward. she backed away at the last minute. she said she was scared. i think there is much more support for these women now. you re thinking the political context has changed. we don t know what is going to happen tomorrow in alabama. we ll all be experts tomorrow night around midnight. even as ken rightly points out, the culture has changed. the official line from the white house regarding trump s accusers has not changed. sarah huckabee sanders reverted back to the official white house line which is the edeny, to discredit the accusers to a certain degree and then to deflect. she said the jury was the voters. that s right. the point the white house makes is the american people knew about these allegations when they elected donald trump. and that puts all of this to rest. the popular vote went against him. so you have to say they did judge him guilty. and the other thing she said is these allegations are from a long time ago. that s not necessarily the case. some of the accusations are from fairly recent. also that there were eyewitnesses that would be able to say that these things that they say didn t happen, didn t happen. and so then she said she would potentially provide us a list of those. so i think we ll all be very curious to see if they can provide a list of eyewitnesss who say that the incident didn t happen, didn t half. i ll glad you live pay you on tuesday for a hamburger today. everybody promises some where. the associated press reports white house advisers were stunned by ambassador haley s comments, adding to two sources familiar with the president s views, quote, haley s comments infuriated the president. trump has grown increasingly in recent days that the accusations against him have resurfaced, telling his associates that the charges are false and drawing parallels to the accusations facing republican alabama senate candidate roy moore. what is the point of the president saying i reremind me of roy moore? why would you say i sound like roy moore? in this race, i think it s very clear that the president feels that he s got to get roy moore elected. he s got to get this guy into the senate. they cannot afford to lose the senate seat. he ll go 15 miles to the border and not appear with him on stage. he s got to get guy in. let s talk to ken, and jeff then back to you again. why are these voters interviewed on the focus groups down in alabama, people just saying, you know, i don t really think that s what happened. just saying it. it s like voter nullification. i don t believe these stories from these women down there. it s rationalization. they want an excuse to be able to vote for the person they wanted to vote for independent of all of this stuff. so even as we from the outside say this has become a referendum on these allegations of whether we believe these women, the alabama republicans, they want a republican. and they re willing to hold their nose. you re so smart. i don t know about that. but explain away. i do think. that s what president trump is doing as well there was a point that i was saying. he is a republican. then we will test tomorrow night how far it goes. especially for conservative evangelicals who have as a litmus test abortion. i was talking to a democrat who said if doug jones was anti-abortion, he would probably have this sewn up by now. there are a lot of voters who have never voted for a democrat in a federal election. a lot of doug jones supporters are they won t necessarily view this race as a choice between roy moore and doug jones. the other choice is for some of the republicans to stay home and that will give jones a boost. there are republicans and there are democrats. and there are either 51 seats or 52 seats republicans. it s the nature of the beast. binary. one or the other. the round table is sticking was. you re watching hardball. we are the tv doctors of america, and we may not know much about medicine, but we know a lot about drama. from scandalous romance, to ridiculous plot twists. (gasping) son? dad! we also know you can avoid drama by getting an annual check-up. so we re partnering with cigna to remind you to go see a real doctor. go, know, and take control of your health. it could save your life. doctor poses! dad! cigna. together, all the way. we re back with the hardball round table. francesca, tell me something i don t know. while i was in india hearing ivanka trump speak, she said that the administration was going to be working hard in the new year on paid family leave. and that s something i m hearing from alleys of the administration is it s just not something there is a major appetite for in the house. we ll see if she can get that national paid family leave pushed through next year. i m sure it s a big corporate agenda item. go ahead, ken. there has been a surge of reporting of sexual harassment, sexual misconduct allegations in the congress. my sources tell me it has prompted a deluge of complaints to the house ethics committee. about members? members and high-ranking staff members. jeff? to that end, democratic congresswoman gwen moore sent a letter to the senate operations team asking them to put a plan in place to protect senate pages in the event that roy moore i m sorry. it s ludicrous. you have to have a restraining order on a u.s. senator. it s crazy. if you like the guy that needs to be restrained? thank you, francesca chambers, ken vogel and jeff bennett. when we return, we ll finish with trump watch. you re watching hardball. shostakovich playing from our family to yours. may all your wishes come true this holiday season. just serve classy snacks and bew a gracious host,iday party. no matter who shows up. do you like nuts? what s going on? oh hey! that s it? yeah. everybody two seconds! dear sebastian, after careful consideration of your application, it is with great pleasure that we offer our congratulations on your acceptance. through the tuition assistance program, every day mcdonald s helps more people go to college. it s part of our commitment to being america s best first job. particular, an argument i completely agreed with. and now look at what he has done. trump has stirred up all kinds of trouble throughout the islamic world, on the west bank, in lebanon. and who knows how many other places. people are getting killed because this president wanted to pander to those who backed him last november. meanwhile, he has dishonored one of the few heroic commitments he took in the campaign, to oppose american entry into stupid wars, wars that fail to deliver security for the american people. why is trump humiliating those arab states who have stood with us over the years, countries like jordan and saudi arabia? why has he his own son-in-law s efforts? why is he giving iran the greatest break in the world by blowing that alliance apart? but trump s greatest betrayal is to those who believed his promise to end stupid wars. in declare jerusalem the capital of israel, mr. trump has forfeited america s indispensable role as peace broker.