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Some experts say the trend is a pandemic-induced blip, but others see a longer-lasting shift underway.

Heritage for their kids in order to improve their chances of getting into elite schools. one person who may not be surprised is joseph ingam, the author of "almost black." he joins us tonight. joseph, thanks for coming on. it does make you wonder, this is not in any way an attempt to pretend that american history isn't real, the ugly parts of it. of course it is real. but this idea that white privilege is the dominant fact of american life is challenged, i would say, by this fact. wouldn't you say? >> the varsity blues admissions scandal kind of shows white privilege is somewhat of an archaic ...

I think he said it better than i could have. in the 30 seconds we have left, do you think we are moving closer to that are further away from that? >> with the new adversity score i'm just afraid we are moving away from that because the adversity score can be manipulated simply by declaring you have a different address. focus on the factors that help you succeed. those are the things that will make a difference for the long-term better of our education system. >> tucker: i sure hope so. joseph, thank you for your perspective. great to talk to you tonight. up next, smartphones and the internet a...