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Should i say former protege? >> i'd like to comment, rev, but i think i dosed off during that sound bite of jeb bush talking. he's just as scintillating a speaker as i've heard he is. i don't picture that many reporters running after him to catch his ever thought. there could be a charisma deficit here. i'm waiting with baited breath for his first comments about hillary. >> josh is there a contrast between rubio and jeb bush's response? is it strategy maturity or he just didn't feel like doing it today? >> it's part strategy, part maturity. he's got 19 months to bash her on the head. he doesn'...

Sandwich. >> who gets unveiled as the evil secret genius at the end. >> we'll stay tuned. angela, josh and stephanie, thank you for joining the conversation tonight. we'll be right back. yes! one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these occasional digestive issues... with 3 types of good bacteria. live the regular life. phillips' my name is tony sartorio. i'm a lineman for pg&e out of the concord service center. i have lived here pretty much my whole life. i have been married for twelve years. i have 3 kids. i love living here and i love working in my hometown. ...

favor of those already at the top. there's something wrong with that. there's something wrong when ceos make 300 times more than the typical worker. there's something wrong when american workers keep getting mr. more productive as they have and as i saw a few minutes ago is very possible because of education and skills training but that productivity is not matched in their paychecks. i'm running for president because i think that americans and their families need a champion and i want to be that champion. >> today's event was very different from clinton's first iowa trip 8 years ago ...

I'm sure the republicans will be doing tours at the gallery. >> he said it's the metaphor of the shadowy side of bill clinton, he's the most famous liar in the world. he's trying to insert some kind of statement in there. >> not a kind of guy you commission. >> no. now to a dramatic video of a sky dive in australia. christopher jones had the midair scare of his life. 22 seconds after free falling, something goes wrong. he started convulsing and flipped over on to his back. having a seizure. it was 9,000 feet in the air. and blacked out. eventually the instructor was able to grab him and rele...

It's time now for "conversation nation." joining me tonight, senior digital editor of "ebony," jamila. josh epps. and democratic strategist tara dowdell. thank you all for being here tonight. >> thanks. >> thanks, rev. >> we're learning disturbing new details about the suspected cold-blooded isis killer known as jihadi john who was just unmasked. here is a new picture of mohammed emwazi as a teen. the years leading up to his radicalization. and tonight, newly published e-mails sent to a british reporter have five years ago revealed he knew authorities were closing in and it drove him to parano...