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meeting where former president trump discusses holding secret documents he does not declassify. listen. >> isn't it amazing? i have a big pile of papers. look. this was him. they presented me this. this is it ooff the record. but they presented me with this. this is the defense department and him. this was him. that wasn't done by me, it was him. all sorts of stuff. pages long. let's see here. -- isn't that amazing? this totally wins my case, you know, except it is like highly confidential, secret. as a president i could declassify, but now i can't. >> yeah, now we have a problem. >>...

hi there, everyone. i'm nicole wallace, thanks for being here with us. we've got a lot of places you get your news today, we're glad you're joining us. four pm in the east, it's 11 pm in moscow. we're following breaking news this hour, with the latest on the revolt unfolding in russia. and we see news is confirming, yevgeny prigozhin is the head of the wagner group, which is a private mercenary army in russia, that's done a lot of the fighting in the war in ukraine. he has called for his moscow bound convoy to stand down for now. that's only after advancing to within 120 miles of the...

for a long time. he uses maybe one part of his leadership. he was up one day -- then the other day, pushback on somebody else. kind of the classic divide and rule. i think prigozhin was a handy tool for him to put pressure on shrug you, maybe you blame shrug you or others for what was happening. but it is obviously gunning out of control. he thought he could control, now he can't. >> how does this and do you think? >> like i said, i think in the short term he will be able to squash this. but in the long term, dictators, it's when that shrink in the armor shows that things start to ch...

an armed rebellion. and a key piece of evidence in the documents case against donald trump is revealed and we'll play it for you. nbc news reporters are following the latest developments but i want to start there with this new audio tape tied to the classified documents case. ryan riley is here. this tape was in the indictment but now the world gets to hear it. tell us more. >> that's right. you know, obviously this is a really critical piece of evidence for jack smith's investigative team here and now we get to hear for ourselves what donald trump said when he was discussing these...

in africa and sub-saharan africa and its ability to generate wealth. how can we sustain that? does he still have access to that? what does it give him in russia? it's a really good question. >> does his use outweigh his threat to the russian president? molly mchugh, thank you, my friend. we have a lot more coming up, everybody. you're watching msnbc. our second hour starts right now. a, hey, everybody. welcome back. i am yasmin vossoughian. if you are just joining us, welcome. it's fantastic to see you. if you are sticking with us, we are thankful for that. we are continuing our cove...