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arkansas american airlines crash, june 1, 1999. after that, it was a big push. in some cultures that is not welcome. we have a very pilot in command with a huge amount of hours and a co-pilot with lesser hours and we have three carriers now, all from malaysia for example, flying over a war zone. mh-19 that was shot done. that's a serious question in judgment. same thing here entering a thunderstorm. it's a serious question of judgment. >> what do you think, david? >> well i think the question of overconfidence is a very good question but i might rephrase it and call it an over reliance on the automation systems. peter goelz has been talking about this as well, the fact that the pilots are relying on the equipment and technology. the more you make it safer and automated, the less you rely on your own instinctive abilities in managing the aircraft in difficult situations such as this. >> i want to go to another
those those, and these are magnificent can and super cells there. >> and i'm not a weather expert but i can tell from the weather map behind you. and i want to go to mary schiavo, that the pilot asked to go higher in altitude and given your vast experience in search and rescue in trying to figure out what goes wrong, what do you think that etells us what could have happened? >> well, that the pilot was in trouble in this dire weather. we have to back it up more is that the modern forecasting and radar would have given them that picture frightening to the pilot there of the solid sea of red. those are strong thunderstorms, and in the united states we have had accidents for example one june 1, 1999 american airlines little rock went into a level six thunderstorm and shouldn't