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it s a very interesting fact. host pledge your right at the 60 s and 70 s they had a strange period and which the military was polarizing and attacking the military and then leader we got into a problem which was what i would call it patriotism police were people with questionable there s patriotism on both sides. when we talk about how bad things are going more and more partisan, more and more ideological, this to me is actually a good swing which is we ve gotten away from that. there is not quite as much questioning of the military or patriotism or whether joe biden is less patriotic than cheney even though they disagree fundamentally. guest: i m with you on that and apart from some of my colleagues on the right that when people said we shouldn t you shouldn t ask questions about the iraq war and why we, are there. if you are the u.s. senate and or not there to talk about the wisdom of going to the war, what are you therefore? let s go back to the founders. if you ....